[Discussion] Why is BB overrated on this forum?
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chopstickchakra
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It certainly does seem to stop the attack. Two things though. Teach isn't touching WB his Vortex is right at WB's shockwave and is absorbing it(or at least that's how it looks) While it definitely leans me towards your side I can't help but think that's not exactly the same as stopping him from doing it still or the same as stopping Luffy's stretchiness(I know I'm being a little stubborn) Also the other thing, if that is how BB's DF works and Logia's traits like intangibility are always active subconsciously(as shown with Sabo) then wouldn't his DF nullifying trait be one of those active traits? Yet WB was holding Teach and used a GGnM shockwave on him so skin contact isn't the only thing that makes him stop DF powers, it must be a conscious action.
2. Why wouldn't he, he's a Yonko and has had DF's before I don't see why he wouldn't know about the YYnM and it's powers. He should have/probably learned about Teach at some point(which means his betrayal and stealing of the YYnM) since he knew Ace was hunting him and he went to WB to tell him to stop Ace. As fro Shanks and BB we'll have to wait for their reunion because I never got the impression Shanks feared BB I got that he feared for Ace against BB. Tomato, Tomahto.
3. I think we've said all that needs said on this one.
4. Highly Highly doubt it. Also as others have pointed out before a Yonkou's strength isn't solely the captain, BB got a serious crew boost at ID and that is a huge factor(on top of his 2 DF's) as to his rapid ascension to Shichibukai. Titles don't always mean everything either, Moriah was a shichibukai but clearly below the likes of Doffy and Croc. Mihawk is a shichibukai and can clash with a Yonkou captain, don't get too hung up on titles =ing power levels. Maybe after the skip he'll show something that changes my mind but I don't see him beating a healthy Doffy 1v1 even with Haki.
its a plot
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Woah woah woah you think Current Blackbeard is weaker than Doflamingo?
Lord have mercy Teach is underrated.
Theres 0% chance for Doflamingo being stronger than him, he wouldn't even beat pre skip Quake Blackbeard.
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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Lol he would merk pts Blackbeard lol.. Megllaglan negged Blackbeard crew before the other jailer came (sheillew)
Listen think about it black beard was taking hits from ace pts puffy etc because they were faster then him.. Doffy (there should be no difference between pts doffy and current cuz all he does is sit on his throne..) is faster then current luffy gear 2 (not gear 4 lol) black beard wouldn't even be able to react to overheat which would bisect him not to mention awakening etc...
As for current ..: idk tbh I doubt doffy is stronger on soul fact that black beard has quake and darkness and in my head him and luffy are leveling up Hali around same:... Tho he would not low diff doffy... (Maybe mid-high) Black beard to me is weakest yonko.:. (I dnt even know if he's on the same level in terms of strength he could be in terms of man power) In terms of hype and individual but he seems to have acquired quite a followIng... Personally I think what doffy showed luffy (awakening) mixing it with his gears will be the key to stopping Blackbeard... Cuz Blackbeard seems to not be taking time to learn his df (besides darkness) he just wants all powerful ones luffy on other hand loves his rubber powers and will eventually gain awakening
Vandenre1ch
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Teach isn't overrated. When people rank Teach, they at least stick within the logical boundaries of his strength. I even think Teach cant use haki. There are characters may more overrated like Zoro, Ace, Sabo, Kizaru, Prime characters etc..
Doflamingo would get murked by pre-ts Gura BB. BB was literally holding in an top-tier while just getting his fruit, I'm not saying he was as strong as Sengoku or even close to that since Sengoku fought like all the BB crew at once but still his showing during marineford its a feat itself, Doflamingo wouldnt be able to surpass that, I can see Doffy beating the Yami BB but the Gura BB has the firepower to take down Doflamingo in one hit if he gets a clean shot.
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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So ur saying one unamed quake punch from someone who is inexperience is equivalent wait no stronger than 2 gear 4 onslaughts, gamma knife, injection King Kong gun, kong gun and red hawk put together cuz that was what it took to put doffy down mind u he still had birdcage up which idk how Blackbeard would even get out of if doffy put a bird cage around him (and him being on outside but still controlling strings) .. But ok if that's how u feel free to express your opinion.
I'm gonna have to agree with Bajram here. The quake fruit made BB a lot more powerful than before, the guy could hold his own with Sengoku for a bit due to how powerful the fruit was, and he had just got it.
Not to mention he was taking shockwaves from the Buddha and a quake to the body from Whitebeard and still could fight. Those attacks Doflamingo endured aren't more impressive. Especially when he had to constantly stitch his organs together to stay alive.
BB even has an advantage as he can nullify his string powers and suck him in and quake the crap out of him.
Simple quakes were able to take down VA's like Lacroix and on top of it it was able to take down someone like John Giant who is pretty strong down in a single quake, the same quake that it was needed all 3 of the admirals to simply block it only also the same fruit which was able to counter Sengokus shock waves, strong enough shock waves to send flying like 10 fighters who are probably all high tiers on top of it the level 6 inmates like flies.
One does not simply compare Gumo Gumo to Gura Gura, just dont its ridiculous, because one needs all those years of training and perfectizing to be considered strong while the other is in a whole different level, BB just got the Gura Gura and was able to tilt the whole island as well as all the sea sending tsunamis even to Sabaody, shortly Gura Gura no mi is island level the moment u wield it, does that explain my point?
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Uzumaki Macho
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In this forum BB is actually quite underrated. And BB isn't as slow as he seems, if he was that slow he wouldn't be able to react to WB, or Ace. Sure likes to take the first hit though, cause he's kinda slow in the head if anything.
IMO
Doflamingo > Yami Teach. Doflamingo, beats Teach very high diff.
Gura/Yami Teach >= Doflamingo. Teach beats Doflamingo very high diff.
Current Teach > Doflamingo, prob beat him mid diff max.
IMO
Doflamingo > Yami Teach. Doflamingo, beats Teach very high diff.
Gura/Yami Teach >= Doflamingo. Teach beats Doflamingo very high diff.
Current Teach > Doflamingo, prob beat him mid diff max.
Not sure how awakening those would work. We've seen Whitebeard use the Gura Gura...WB should have had his fruit for a while I doubt he didn't take it to its fullest. If Oda does show some awakening with the Gura Gura then theres a clear plothole right there, the worlds strongest man and he couldn't even awaken his fruit? Or he didn't choose to use it to its fullest in a war where he was trying to get Ace back? We should have seen the upper limit of the Gura fruit already.
Forbidden Tale
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He is Yonko.
I don't even need to bring that:
- He was according to Ace strong enough to be Division Leader (with that " his haki isn't on par with the top tier characters from what we've seen" and without Devil Fruit),
- He was capable of giving Shanks three scars (with that " his haki isn't on par with the top tier characters from what we've seen" and without Devil Fruit).
That's only counting what happened pre time skip.
I don't even need to bring that:
- He was according to Ace strong enough to be Division Leader (with that " his haki isn't on par with the top tier characters from what we've seen" and without Devil Fruit),
- He was capable of giving Shanks three scars (with that " his haki isn't on par with the top tier characters from what we've seen" and without Devil Fruit).
That's only counting what happened pre time skip.
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chopstickchakra
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I agree with that but maybe only Tenryubito or D's can awaken a DF. It's a cop out but not a plot hole.