Please, Crocodile took Jozu's Haki-coated diamond punch and just had a busted lip and some blood on his forehead and showed no further hindrance from it. It's not low-diffing the far superior Ace.
We have no idea when he put this scar on Shanks' face. Considering that Teach has been on WB's ship for decades and they fought with Roger all the time, it's fully possible that Teach planted it while Shanks was still a cabin boy on the ship, before Shanks had attained the power of a Yonko.
Well no he obviously didn't because we saw Shank's face when Rogers was executed. He was completely fine and he never met Shanks back then. Look at the flashbacks of when Buggy asked Shanks to be in his crew or when Shanks recruited Usopp's dad to be on his ship. BB definitely put a scar on shanks when he was yonkou, because the earliest we've seen Teach in Whitebeard's ship is when Marco and Jozu were aboard.
Please, Crocodile took Jozu's Haki-coated diamond punch and just had a busted lip and some blood on his forehead and showed no further hindrance from it. It's not low-diffing the far superior Ace.
U think Ace was stronger than Diamond Jozu???
Here Mihawk said he wants to measure strength between him and whitebeard(that means he used his strongest attack)
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Mihawk strongest attack was stopped by Diamond Jozu(which means Mihawk cant cut Diamonds).
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On the other hand we dont know How strong Ace was? We have no idea how strong his armament haki was? we know he cant control his conqueror haki and he was defeated by BB(who was high shichibukai lvl at that time).
We have no idea when he put this scar on Shanks' face. Considering that Teach has been on WB's ship for decades and they fought with Roger all the time, it's fully possible that Teach planted it while Shanks was still a cabin boy on the ship, before Shanks had attained the power of a Yonko.
Well no he obviously didn't because we saw Shank's face when Rogers was executed. He was completely fine and he never met Shanks back then. Look at the flashbacks of when Buggy asked Shanks to be in his crew or when Shanks recruited Usopp's dad to be on his ship. BB definitely put a scar on shanks when he was yonkou, because the earliest we've seen Teach in Whitebeard's ship is when Marco and Jozu were aboard.
On the other hand we dont know How strong Ace was? We have no idea how strong his armament haki was?we know he cant control his conqueror haki and he was defeated by BB(who was high shichibukai lvl at that time).
Your last scan doesn't work and no his face was never seen scarred during the execution. You can't assume that shanks had a scar just because his hair is draped over his face.
Especially when the last time Whitebeard remembered Shanks and Buggy fought against Whitebeard, his face is fine here.
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The last war the pirate king had himself was the eddy war against shiki, and his face remained unscathed then too.
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So BB never could've done it to Shanks when he was a cabin boy.
A little note too, Shanks' scar crosses down to his cheeks which shanks did not have during the execution.
You're last scan doesn't work and no his face was never seen scarred during the execution. You can't assume that shanks had a scar just because his hair is draped over his face.
I'm not saying that Shanks' face IS scarred, I'm saying that we have no way of knowing whether or not it was scarred. Which ties back into my earlier comment that we have no way of currently knowing whether or not Shanks was scarred before or after becoming a Yonko.
Especially when the last time Whitebeard remembered Shanks and Buggy fought against Whitebeard, his face is fine here.
Incorrect. That's not the last war Roger ever had, as he became the Pirate King two years after that incident.
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Plenty of time for Roger's crew to have clashed with Whitebeard's, as they said that they've clashed countless times, and I'm pretty sure they fought after Roger became PK too.
I'm not saying that Shanks' face IS scarred, I'm saying that we have no way of knowing whether or not it was scarred. Which ties back into my earlier comment that we have no way of currently knowing whether or not Shanks was scarred before or after becoming a Yonko.
He certainly wasn't scarred when he was a cabin boy and the last time whitebeard's crew met Shanks was when he fought alongside Rogers. So during Shanks independent journey, Whitbeard only heard about Shanks' progress through the new world and fighting Mihawk as his rival. That's it.
Rogers already acquired the ancient weapons and had crocus in his crew. He was already towards the end of his journey. And it took Rogers two years after the ed war to be declared pirate king. There was no reports of him engaging in battle with Rogers when he was on his way to raftel.
Incorrect. That's not the last war Roger ever had, as he became the Pirate King two years after that incident.
I know he didn't become pirate king in two years and your IMG is still not working.
Plenty of time for Roger's crew to have clashed with Whitebeard's, as they said that they've clashed countless times, and I'm pretty sure they fought after Roger became PK too.
No, the crew disbanded once Rogers became pirate king and then a year later the execution took place. Rogers also did not turn back in his journey from raftel to fight whitebeard one more time. Those 2 years were not spent fighting each other non stop, if anything they were finding poneglyphs to locate the missing place Raftel.
Rayleigh said it himself, Rogers didn't have too much time left.
You also have to remeber that Shanks' scar is across his cheeks. Shanks does not have a scar on his cheeks here
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We can't base an assumption of shanks having a scar on another assumption. You need proof of him actually having a scar as a cabin boy.
He certainly wasn't scarred when he was a cabin boy and the last time whitebeard's crew met Shanks was when he fought alongside Rogers. So during Shanks independent journey, Whitbeard only heard about Shanks' progress through the new world and fighting Mihawk as his rival. That's it.
Rogers already acquired the ancient weapons and had crocus in his crew. He was already towards the end of his journey. And it took Rogers two years after the ed war to be declared pirate king. There was no reports of him engaging in battle with Rogers when he was on his way to raftel.
I know he didn't become pirate king in two years and your IMG is still not working.
No, the crew disbanded once Rogers became pirate king and then a year later the execution took place. Rogers also did not turn back in his journey from raftel to fight whitebeard one more time. Those 2 years were not spent fighting each other non stop, if anything they were finding poneglyphs to locate the missing place Raftel.
Rayleigh said it himself, Rogers didn't have too much time left.
You also have to remeber that Shanks' scar is across his cheeks. Shanks does not have a scar on his cheeks here
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We can't base an assumption of shanks having a scar on another assumption. You need proof of him actually having a scar as a cabin boy.
He certainly wasn't scarred when he was a cabin boy and the last time whitebeard's crew met Shanks was when he fought alongside Rogers. So during Shanks independent journey, Whitbeard only heard about Shanks' progress through the new world and fighting Mihawk as his rival. That's it.
Except you have zero proof that Shanks did not have his scar during the execution, while meeting Yasopp, and while parting ways with Buggy.
And yes, while Shanks' last encounter with WB was with Roger, there is zero proof that Roger's crew never encountered WB after the Edd War.
Rogers already acquired the ancient weapons and had crocus in his crew. He was already towards the end of his journey. And it took Rogers two years after the ed war to be declared pirate king. There was no reports of him engaging in battle with Rogers when he was on his way to raftel.
It was said that Roger's crew and WB's fought countless times. It was never said that they didn't fight after the Edd War, that they never fought once Roger became PK, or that their last confrontation was the one WB remembered. Saying that Roger and WB's last confrontation occurred before Shanks got his scar is nothing but assumption.
No, the crew disbanded once Rogers became pirate king and then a year later the execution took place.
The crew disbanded shortly after Roger became Pirate King. Meaning that there was a period where they still sailed while Roger was Pirate King, and then they disappeared and then Roger turned himself in a year after their disappearance. And it's not like Roger and Whitebeard never met each other during this short PK sailing period and during this disappearance period. In fact, we know for a fact that Roger and WB met after Roger became Pirate King because we saw them drinking alcohol together, where Roger complained being called Gold Roger instead of Gol D. Roger, and then he told WB about the Void Century. It is fully possible that Shanks was still a cabin boy at this point but had already received his scar from previous battles.
Rogers also did not turn back in his journey from raftel to fight whitebeard one more time.
What? You realize the world is a globe right? Meaning that Roger didn't have to turn back, he just kept sailing and eventually ended up back in the rest of the discovered world and could have encountered WB again. You also speak as though Roger turned back to go looking for WB, when they could have just ran into each other by chance and duked it out for whatever reason. It's not like Roger became Pirate King and instantly stopped being a pirate.
Those 2 years were not spent fighting each other non stop, if anything they were finding poneglyphs to locate the missing place Raftel.
Rayleigh said it himself, Rogers didn't have too much time left.
Exactly, and Shanks NOT having his scar is also assumption. There has to be proof that Shanks had his scar as a cabin boy and there needs to proof he didn't get it until after being a cabin boy. Neither exist.
You have no proof that. So assuming that Rogers came back to fight whitebeard again for some unknown reason is you implying that a sick Rogers fought Whitbeard in his prime. Is that what you're trying to say?
It was said that Roger's crew and WB's fought countless times. It was never said that they didn't fight after the Edd War, that they never fought once Roger became PK, or that their last confrontation was the one WB remembered. Saying that Roger and WB's last confrontation occurred before Shanks got his scar is nothing but assumption.
It's an assumption that during Rogers last two years Whitebeard fought Rogers countless times, especially within that time span.
Rogers disbanded the group once he became pirate king, that part was very clear. So any fights with Rogers during his Pirate King era is nil.
The crew disbanded shortly after Roger became Pirate King. Meaning that there was a period where they still sailed while Roger was Pirate King, and then they disappeared and then Roger turned himself in a year after their disappearance. And it's not like Roger and Whitebeard never met each other during this short PK sailing period and during this disappearance period. In fact, we know for a fact that Roger and WB met after Roger became Pirate King because we saw them drinking alcohol together, where Roger complained being called Gold Roger instead of Gol D. Roger, and then he told WB about the Void Century. It is fully possible that Shanks was still a cabin boy at this point but had already received his scar from previous battles.
Not even close.
1. During that flashback, was it confirmed that Rogers was pirate king or not? Because that's a huge assumption.
2. Rogers meeting Whitebeard for a drink has nothing to do with Shanks and Blackbeard because it was solely the two captains.
3. Rogers crew disappeared after Rogers became known as pirate king. He fought nobody if the crew mysteriously disappeared after Rogers became Pirate king.
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What? You realize the world is a globe right? Meaning that Roger didn't have to turn back, he just kept sailing and eventually ended up back in the rest of the discovered world and could have encountered WB again. You also speak as though Roger turned back to go looking for WB, when they could have just ran into each other by chance and duked it out for whatever reason. It's not like Roger became Pirate King and instantly stopped being a pirate.
What does the world being a globe have anything to do with anything? You act like Raftel has a back ally door or something. There's only one way to get Raftel, that's it. And turning back to battle whitebeard for no coherent reason does not make the slightest bit of sense. It defeats the purpose already, he's pirate king. Game over, there is no higher pirate position than that. WB has no legitimate reason to fight him again, and don't make one up for him either.
Rayleigh said that once Rogers became pirate king, their last order was to disband one by one.
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When did I say they fought each other non-stop for 2 years?
Exactly, and Shanks NOT having his scar is also assumption. There has to be proof that Shanks had his scar as a cabin boy and there needs to proof he didn't get it until after being a cabin boy. Neither exist.
yeah dont trust those stupid youtubers that says bb is the weakest they just want the views, i mean he captured ace alive, survived whitebeard, made a scar that shanks says its still itches.. so far i think they are all equal coz if not how the hell they stayed up to become emperor.. blackbeard seems to be fighting shanks and bigmom right now on the new world..
yeah dont trust those stupid youtubers that says bb is the weakest they just want the views, i mean he captured ace alive, survived whitebeard, made a scar that shanks says its still itches.. so far i think they are all equal coz if not how the hell they stayed up to become emperor.. blackbeard seems to be fighting shanks and bigmom right now on the new world..
Show me a scan where Mihawk put Haki in his slash attacks?
And Tell me why will Mihawk use his weakest attack against one of the strongest Yonko in OPverse?
Mihawk used his strongest attack.
U can see in the scan Diamond Jozu stopped "World strongest slash".
Show me a scan where Mihawk put Haki in his slash attacks?
And Tell me why will Mihawk use his weakest attack against one of the strongest Yonko in OPverse?
On a contrary, why would he need his best slash just to see the difference b/w him and Whitebeard? It was a one handed slash from a man who uses both hands in an actual fight. So, the mere thought of it being the best Mihawk could produce is absurd. As far as it concerns AOE, the one he used on Whitebeard wasn't any different from the slash he used on Luffy when the by product of it cut through Ice mountain. There is noway it was his best. If anything, it was a casual attack.
As far as it concerns AOE, the one he used on Whitebeard wasn't any different from the slash he used on Luffy when the by product of it cut through Ice mountain.
Him wanting to test the difference had nothing to do with him using the best of his attacks. It doesn't even remotely make any sense to began with. Almost every single panel that you've posted except for a few are non canon material. And the remaining instances are where he didn't need both hands to fight. Here are the instances where he was seen using both hands while fighting. [
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So, it doesn't matter if you have panels of his using one hand because there are legion of occasions when he was using both hands which proves your entire point wrong. A both handed slash >> One handed slash. Simple as that. Way to misinterpret arguments, I was saying that the attack Mihawk used on a fodder like Luffy wasn't much different from the on he used on Whitebeard which means that he wasn't using the best of attacks in both cases. That was a mis-translation, it actually says " Slash from words strongest sword".
U sure that translation is correct because Anime showed Jozu stopped Most powerful slash in the world(at 2:48).
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I absolutely don't care about BB's endurance feats knowing he's a member of the clan of "D".
Black-beard has eaten 2 devil-fruits in the past four years, meaning that Black-beard has little knowledge about devil-fruits and how they work. If Luffy could not master his devil-fruit post-time-skip, what makes you think Black-beard has mastered two devil-fruits in two years? However, I understand BB has to be the strongest Yonko by the time Luffy faces him, therefore BB will be favored in some way or another by Oda.
You wouldn't even be able to see the scars in that scan anyways because his hair covers up the entirety of his cheeks.
Here you can see that Shanks' scar barely reaches down his face[
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With his hair blocking the entirety of his cheek, you can't say that he didn't have it there.
You have no proof that. So assuming that Rogers came back to fight whitebeard again for some unknown reason is you implying that a sick Rogers fought Whitbeard in his prime. Is that what you're trying to say?
I never said I have proof of that. Which just goes to show you still haven't understood anything I've said. There's no proof either way.
I also never said that Roger came back to fight Whitebeard. Once again, that implies that Roger went looking for a fight with Whitebeard. What I said was that, as Roger continued to sail as Pirate King for a short period of time, it's fully possible that at any point during this time, he could have encountered Whitebeard and fought again. REGARDLESS of if it was on purpose or if it was by chance.
It's an assumption that during Rogers last two years Whitebeard fought Rogers countless times, especially within that time span.
Once again, I never said they fought countless times over the last two years of Roger's piracy. I said that, in their OVERALL careers of piracy, Roger and WB fought countless times, something asserted by Whitebeard himself. What I said was that during the two year period between the Edd War and Roger becoming Pirate King, which would require Roger to have kept sailing and build more strength(seriously, Luffy sailed for less than a year between East Blue and Marineford, look how strong he got, and then look how strong he got during the two year timeskip, Roger undoubtedly grew in power between the Edd War and becoming Pirate King), he probably fought Whitebeard at least once, and probably fought Whitebeard during the short period of time where he sailed as the Pirate King.
Rogers disbanded the group once he became pirate king, that part was very clear. So any fights with Rogers during his Pirate King era is nil.
Incorrect. Ray says here that Roger came down with the terminal illness about four years before his execution.[
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Ray then says they disbanded "before long," which indicates a short period of time where Roger sailed as the Pirate King, which is supported in the scan I linked before that said shortly after becoming Pirate King, Roger disbanded the crew. Regardless of how long that was, it shows that it was not an immediate disbandment, and the crew sailed for some period of time where Roger was Pirate King.
2. Rogers meeting Whitebeard for a drink has nothing to do with Shanks and Blackbeard because it was solely the two captains.
You have zero proof that the two of them met up alone and didn't have their crew. Considering WB's crew was ready to fight Shanks the second he appeared, it's doubtful that he went ahead on his own. They may have spoken privately, but it's fully possible that their crews were nearby at that period of time.
If u cant reply properly then please dont quote me again.
Mihawk used his strongest attack.
U can see in the scan Diamond Jozu stopped "World strongest slash".
Show me a scan where Mihawk put Haki in his slash attacks?
And Tell me why will Mihawk use his weakest attack against one of the strongest Yonko in OPverse?
Him wanting to test the difference had nothing to do with him using the best of his attacks. It doesn't even remotely make any sense to began with. Almost every single panel that you've posted except for a few are non canon material. And the remaining instances are where he didn't need both hands to fight. Here are the instances where he was seen using both hands while fighting. [
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So, it doesn't matter if you have panels of his using one hand because there are legion of occasions when he was using both hands which proves your entire point wrong. A both handed slash >> One handed slash. Simple as that. Way to misinterpret arguments, I was saying that the attack Mihawk used on a fodder like Luffy wasn't much different from the on he used on Whitebeard which means that he wasn't using the best of attacks in both cases. That was a mis-translation, it actually says " Slash from words strongest sword".
That panel actually works against you. It says "World's strongest sword attack" which could very well mean the sword attack that is the strongest one in the world.
U sure that translation is correct because Anime showed Jozu stopped Most powerful slash in the world(at 2:48).
[video=youtube;JLrnlTewyq8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLrnlTewyq8[/video]
