Why indra = ashura

[frozen5]

SUMMARY:
The sasuke's eyes = 9 bijuu's as its the eye of their original body.
and all of the naruto verse is borrowed power from the shinju tree


full:
So there are alot of threads poping up about borrowed powered between sasuke and naruto and how ashura could not fight indra without bijuu <- that is true but here is how we equivalte them:

The entire naruto verse is borrowed power (shinju fruit).

The jubi consisted of basically 2 major parts its body and its eyes, somehow the eyes became part of the s06p bloodline and the body was divided into parts (the bijuus). Indra was born with only a piece of the jubi eyes which would be the normal sharingan and ashura aquired a piece of the jubi's body by becoming a jinchuriki.

indra was unable to get the full power of eyes(rennigan) because well he probly could not get dna from his brother or had no idea how to get it.

ashura most likely did not have all the bijuu's so he too was unable to get full power of the body(sage)

so you see the
rennigan is gained by killing someone close -> gaining dna of other

ridoki sage is gained by gather all the beasts -> befriending them

so both powers must be gained in through a series of harships and life risking situations.
e.g. - sasuke had to kill his brother to get ems.
- everytime naruto does fox cloak and heals rapidly he looses a piece of his lifespan

equal trade you see.

so the whole thing about naruto having to have 9 bijuu's to get to sasukes level is only natural as sasukes eyes is the result of all 9 bijuu's

 

[Gagster]

Explain Hashi and Madara then, Madara had a biju and Hashi didn't. Indra and Asura are not relevant at all to their 0ower.

 

[Flawž]

Naruto was stronger than sasuke before rikudo gave them half of his powers each thus concluding that Naruto is stronger than sasuke currently.

Let's not forget the 9 bijuu chakra.

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

EMS Madara + Full Kyuubi vs Hashirama?

 

[Six Paths]

Naruto was stronger than sasuke before rikudo gave them half of his powers each thus concluding that Naruto is stronger than sasuke currently.

Let's not forget the 9 bijuu chakra.

It is true, and I agree.

 

[Gatsuuga]

Naruto was stronger than sasuke before rikudo gave them half of his powers each thus concluding that Naruto is stronger than sasuke currently.

Let's not forget the 9 bijuu chakra.

People seem to forget them all the time......Naruto basically got an equal power up to sasuke then became a full synced juubi jinchuriki.

EMS Madara + Full Kyuubi vs Hashirama?

Mito Uzumaki was also there, but she didn't do might in the fight....

 

[Gerkak]

EMS Madara + Full Kyuubi vs Hashirama?

Explain Hashi and Madara then, Madara had a biju and Hashi didn't. Indra and Asura are not relevant at all to their 0ower.

These two pretty much solo'd the thread.

 

[Minator93]

Naruto can 1-shot Sasuke, did you not see that TBB-RS?

 

[warlee]

Actually naruto has a little of juubi's body maybe half yet it equals or even stronger than the whole eye.

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto can 1-shot Sasuke, did you not see that TBB-RS?

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Yea one shot susanoo. Wooooowwwww:0....

 

[frozen5]

Explain Hashi and Madara then, Madara had a biju and Hashi didn't. Indra and Asura are not relevant at all to their 0ower.

having power and how you use it is probaly what occured here, oh and madara was not the jinchuriki of the nine tails so it doesnt count as piece of the body power towards him, think about it the nine tails as a beast is practically useless it just has destructive power but when naruto mastered it as the jinchuriki its power is much more devastating.

 

[Gagster]

having power and how you use it is probaly what occured here, oh and madara was not the jinchuriki of the nine tails so it doesnt count as piece of the body power towards him, think about it the nine tails as a beast is practically useless it just has destructive power but when naruto mastered it as the jinchuriki its power is much more devastating.

Nope, Madara relied on the kyubi just like Asura relied on others at first. But he still loat to Hashi who faught him alone.

 

[TrollKing]

Nope, Madara relied on the kyubi just like Asura relied on others at first. But he still loat to Hashi who faught him alone.

Simple. Madara needed nine tail to fight hashi, so he's weaker

 

[Gagster]

Simple. Madara needed nine tail to fight hashi, so he's weaker

So why do people think having the spirit of Asura and Indra make you equal?

 

[frozen5]

Nope, Madara relied on the kyubi just like Asura relied on others at first. But he still loat to Hashi who faught him alone.

madara relied? madara was using the kyubi as a tool and had no bodily connection towards it. plus i assume hashi captured the kyubi after that fight or sealed him during that fight.

plus it is clearly visible that hashi also relied on the people around him for support and peace.

 

[Xāvî1]

Naruto was stronger than sasuke before rikudo gave them half of his powers each thus concluding that Naruto is stronger than sasuke currently.

Let's not forget the 9 bijuu chakra.

i second this.

yeah one eyed rinnegan madara soloed hashirama?

 

[marksonm]

I like what you have posted… like you said; Sasuke's eye are part of the Juubi's spiritual powers and the 9 bijuus are its physical side (as they entail the nature energy). For them to be equal Naruto needs a bijuu (although he trained hard to be very strong to fight without the 9 tails when he got the frog senjutsu) which made him stronger than sasuke as soon as he merged with his Bijuu.

Anyway I think they are equal for now because Sasuke's eyes allows him the benefit of unlocking a Susanoo that is on a Bijuu's level (on the spirirtual side) while Naruto has the Bijuus that grant him the full physical life force part

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Agreed! Hope people will understand/accept that Sasuke was never beyond Naruto, which means Naruto is stronger than Sasuke. Yes, both of them gave Hago's half of his power but "HALF" doesn't really mean 50/50, sometimes it's 25/75.

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Hashi stomps Maddy!

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Who would have thought that Naruto can create such an intense power using only his right hand! That was badass!!!