Why I think Edo Hashirama beats Edo Madara

[pateuvasiliu]

Hashirama is an edo, too.

There is nothing stopping him from using Shinsusenju over and over again.

 

[HadouKage]

He absorbed the chakra in Naruto, he didn't absorb Naruto.

He can absorb the chakra in the mokuton and make it inanimate, he can't absorb the wood itself.

Noooooooo!!! really!?
It seems here you were implying that the Gakido cannot stand up to Mokuton

Rinnegan lets you master Nature Transformation not Kekkei Genkais.

Madara's Wood Release is nowhere near Hashirama's, come on.



Mokuton is not simple ninjutsu. It creates life.

Take your own advice and reread the manga. Start with Chapter 1 please.

Obviously if the Gakido absorbs the chakara then it's rendered useless

Gakido > Mokuton

 

[MrLukyso]

He absorbed the chakra in Naruto, he didn't absorb Naruto.

He can absorb the chakra in the mokuton and make it inanimate, he can't absorb the wood itself.

Are you kidding me ? That way wood becomes totally useless and could be even used against Hashirama.

And how can you say it's something psychical ? You mean you can touch it ? Well you can touch a Susanoo also, it's also psychical but just like Mokuton is made from Chakra.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Susanoo needs chakra to exist. Once a mokuton technique is used, it will last for years, just like natural wood.

 

[Stark]

Madara theoretically should have all of his Techniques... So...

 

[MrLukyso]

Susanoo needs chakra to exist. Once a mokuton technique is used, it will last for years, just like natural wood.

Yeah so ? It doesn't deny the fact that Preta Path makes Mokuton useless, actually it can go into Hashiramas disadvantage as Madara can Katon/Amaterasu the wood or just use his Mokuton.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah so ? It doesn't deny the fact that Preta Path makes Mokuton useless, actually it can go into Hashiramas disadvantage as Madara can Katon/Amaterasu the wood or just use his Mokuton.

And Hashirama can react by using Mokuton again?

Anyway Preta isn't absorbing Shinsusenju or flower tree world.

Also, do not forget Bringer of Darkness.

 

[Draphsin]

What does Rinnegan Madara have that comes even close to the Perfect Susanoo Kyuubi?

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Plus, madara can now copy and use every technique that hashi possesses, plus he has preta path. Plus he has mokuton clones which hashi cant distinguish between fake and original.... Plus, Hashi isnt even at 100%, so his shinsuusenju is gonna be weaker than usual.

These more than make up the gap between them, add in some immortality and unlimited chakra and thats icing on the cake.

Btw, susanoo armored juubi will happen and when it does, hashi will sh*t his pants Lol

 

[MrLukyso]

And Hashirama can react by using Mokuton again?

Anyway Preta isn't absorbing Shinsusenju or flower tree world.

Also, do not forget Bringer of Darkness.

Yes it is absorbing it, you can't deny it, once Flower Tree World is used Madara used Preta Path and the Woods are useless, obviously stopped.

 

[HadouKage]

And Hashirama can react by using Mokuton again?

Anyway Preta isn't absorbing Shinsusenju or flower tree world.

Also, do not forget Bringer of Darkness.

1. Can just absorb the Mokuton again?
2. It can
3. It can
4. Shared vision :|

My goodness

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

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Plus, madara can now copy and use every technique that hashi possesses, plus he has preta path. Plus he has mokuton clones which hashi cant distinguish between fake and original.... Plus, Hashi isnt even at 100%, so his shinsuusenju is gonna be weaker than usual.

Susanoo armored juubi will happen and when it does, hashi will sh*t his pants Lol

That FIRST pic was caused by the Ten Tails. Madara had NOTHING to do with that. He's in danger as well.

Other than that, you are good to go.

 

[TheSages456]

this thread needs to end. madaratards have infiltrated. madaratards are expecting edo madara to pull out some godly shit thats stronger than his perfect susano. sorry fanboys, he already verified that his full power is equal to the full power of ems madara. hashirama beat it fused with the kyuubi.

i wouldnt be surprised if madara jumped straight to perfect susano to fight hashirama. anything less would be useless and a waste of time.

 

[MrLukyso]

1. Can just absorb the Mokuton again?
2. It can
3. It can
4. Shared vision :|

My goodness

Yep same thoughts, he's making himself look so bad.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

1. Can just absorb the Mokuton again?
2. It can
3. It can
4. Shared vision :|

My goodness

Come on. Saying Preta can absorb a full collapsing forest and shinsuusenju is dumb.

Why didn't Nagato absorb Totsuka, then?

 

[HadouKage]

this thread needs to end. madaratards have infiltrated. madaratards are expecting edo madara to pull out some godly shit thats stronger than his perfect susano. sorry fanboys, he already verified that his full power is equal to the full power of ems madara. hashirama beat it fused with the kyuubi.

i wouldnt be surprised if madara jumped straight to perfect susano to fight hashirama. anything less would be useless and a waste of time.

@Bold
Sorry but either you are retarded or just don't read the manga

Everything Madara has displayed in this war has been Godly.
If Hashi barely beat him before, what makes you think he can win when Madara has
- His Mokuton
- Stabalized PS
- Rinnegan

I know what you are about to say and by your logic
Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

 

[HadouKage]

Come on. Saying Preta can absorb a full collapsing forest and shinsuusenju is dumb.

Why didn't Nagato absorb Totsuka, then?

Because Totsuka isn't chakara it's a SPIRITUAL weapon
And it can, may take some time, but it can

 

[MrLukyso]

Because Totsuka isn't chakara it's a SPIRITUAL weapon
And it can, may take some time, but it can

Yes it can indeed, as we saw Preta Path makes some kind of a barrier ( When pain used ) and all the chakra goes into it ( gets absorbed ).

Stop speculating author, and end this useless debate.

 

[HadouKage]

Yes it can indeed, as we saw Preta Path makes some kind of a barrier ( When pain used ) and all the chakra goes into it ( gets absorbed ).

Stop speculating author, and end this useless debate.

Its an ethereal weapon, so it has no matter that humans are able to touch, feel, absorb, etc
It cannot be absorbed

 

[TheSages456]

And here he is.... what took you so long??
Everything Madara has displayed in this war has been Godly.
If Hashi barely beat him before, what makes you think he can win when Madara has
- His Mokuton
- Stabalized PS
- Rinnegan

I know what you are about to say and by your logic
Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

madara gaining more techniques doesnt make him stronger than hashirama and this is something that you just wont get.

hashirama at VOTE casually fought at a level where he was busting entire mountain ranges with one attack. madaras new techs arent even mountain level. they are pathetic compared to the level madara fights at with PS and the level hashirama fights at with shinsuusenju.

i can predict your next response "madara has mokuton so he insta-kills hashirama" despite this being a worn out assumption thats been refuted millions of times.

 

[Touken]

Rinnegan > Mokuton. Some people have gotta seriously understand that.