Why I think Edo Hashirama beats Edo Madara

[pateuvasiliu]

As seen in their fight, the only thing strong enough to hurt Shinsuusenju was the Bijuudama/Perfect Susanoo swordslash Rasenshurikenohmygodwheredoesthisnamestop jutsu, used around half a dozen times.

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We've seen that Shinsuusenju tanked that barrage like a champ and managed to beat both the Perfect Susanoo shell and subdue the Kyuubi, grabbing it like a toy fox.'

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What does Rinnegan Madara have that comes even close to the Perfect Susanoo Kyuubi?

The Rinnegan? The Rinnegan is a joke compared to what Hashirama can do. Meteors? If Hashirama caught a Bijuudama with the wood golem, a far weaker jutsu than Shinsuusenju, what makes you think he can't catch a Meteor with a being that is 100 times bigger than Kurama? Even if it hits, Hashi will just regenerate.

Perfect Susanoo? Hashirama beat PS + Kurama. PS looks bad in comparison.

Katons, shurikens? lol.

Wood Release? Are you joking? Wood release against Hashirama? Hashirama has chakra league larger than Madara's. If madara can use 25 Mokubunshins with Susanoo, how many do you think Hashirama can use?

Madara said it himself. Only Hashirama can beat him.

Madara needs the Juubi to fight Hashirama right now.

 

[Lightbringer]

Sharingan.....copies jutsu

Rinnegan....Masters jutsu and capable of using all elements

Rinnegan+sharingan+mokuton=Hashirama's techs

oh and rinnegan created the moon....just saying

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Why Hashi will beat Madara Cause he has others helping him


but Madara did state only Hashi can beat him

 

[GreyWizard93]

Sharingan.....copies jutsu

Rinnegan....Masters jutsu and capable of using all elements

Rinnegan+sharingan+mokuton=Hashirama's techs

oh and rinnegan created the moon....just saying

yeah but still
Hashi > Madara/

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Edo madara with rinnegan > edo hashirama. You named 1 PHYSICAL jutsu out of the several hundred jutsu the rinnegan can use...fail thread. Throwing a meteor at hashirama would be pointless and madara knows that..

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Sharingan.....copies jutsu

Rinnegan....Masters jutsu and capable of using all elements

Rinnegan+sharingan+mokuton=Hashirama's techs

oh and rinnegan created the moon....just saying

Yeah no, doesn't work like that.

Hashirama has more chakra than Madara and he is, as far as we know, the creator of wood release. Hell, his blood gives you the ability to use wood release. Madara's mokuton is just a second hand copy.

Again, if Madara can use 25 Susanoo bunshins, Hashirama, who has more chakra than him, should easily be able to do more.

Edo madara with rinnegan > edo hashirama. You named 1 PHYSICAL jutsu out of the several hundred jutsu the rinnegan can use...fail thread.

Madara has not shown many others. Preta Path? Useless against Wood Release.

Human? needs melee.

What other Rinnegan tech can he use? All are weaker than the PS, and Hashirama already beat that.

 

[Gricay]

Another fanboy. :heh:

 

[deva pein]

You are underestimating the Rinnegan greatly! Hashirama and Madara where pretty much equal but Hashirama cheap shotted Madara. He now has the Rinnegan which is the dojutsu of a god. The Asura (weapon) path is greatly underestimated just like the ningendo path could kill someone with one touch. The deva path is the best of them all, he can create a planet, destroy everything in it's path. He has the ultimate defense because no ninjutsu can hit him. And he has boss summons who can keep the wood golem and wood dragon at a distance. His huge katons will burn Hashirama's mokuton.
Right now Madara is absolutely superior to Hashirama. A good matchup will be Madara vs Hashirama and Tobirama.

 

[Lightbringer]

Yeah no, doesn't work like that.

Hashirama has more chakra than Madara and he is, as far as we know, the creator of wood release. Hell, his blood gives you the ability to use wood release. Madara's mokuton is just a second hand copy.

Again, if Madara can use 25 Susanoo bunshins, Hashirama, who has more chakra than him, should easily be able to do more.

are you being serious right now?

They were both equally worn out from their final battle....and Madara now has senju DNA which adds to his chakra pool...

Madara's mokuton isn't a second hand copy.....rinnegan lets you master techs....that means it's the real deal and nothing less

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[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Yeah no, doesn't work like that.

Hashirama has more chakra than Madara and he is, as far as we know, the creator of wood release. Hell, his blood gives you the ability to use wood release. Madara's mokuton is just a second hand copy.

Again, if Madara can use 25 Susanoo bunshins, Hashirama, who has more chakra than him, should easily be able to do more.



Madara has not shown many others. Preta Path? Useless against Wood Release.

Human? needs melee.

What other Rinnegan tech can he use? All are weaker than the PS, and Hashirama already beat that.

Oh all of the rinnegan tech are weaker than susanoo..ok great i can stop taking you seriously now. So by your logic obito cant use the most/all of the rinnegans jutsu because he hasn't shown it yet. Do I really have to go into detail about what the rinnegan can do???

 

[BasedNaruto]

No. Way. Hasi's gonna need his brothers support with this one. Madara's a bit to much to handle alone now.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

are you being serious right now?

They were both equally worn out from their final battle....and Madara now has senju DNA which adds to his chakra pool...

Madara's mokuton isn't a second hand copy.....rinnegan lets you master techs....that means it's the real deal and nothing less

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Rinnegan lets you master Nature Transformation not Kekkei Genkais.

Madara's Wood Release is nowhere near Hashirama's, come on.

Preta Path > All of Hashi's Jutsu.

Go re-read manga, especially about the Rinnegan.

Mokuton is not simple ninjutsu. It creates life.

Take your own advice and reread the manga. Start with Chapter 1 please.

 

[NagazuDead]

Agreed, sir...

 

[Chloe Grace Moretz]

Here's The Thing

Madara can Use anything Hashirama can do already........

Wood Release

Wood Release

Not just that Madara Has Hashirama Face on his Chest Already so........Your Guys Point ..!

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

As seen in their fight, the only thing strong enough to hurt Shinsuusenju was the Bijuudama/Perfect Susanoo swordslash Rasenshurikenohmygodwheredoesthisnamestop jutsu, used around half a dozen times.

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We've seen that Shinsuusenju tanked that barrage like a champ and managed to beat both the Perfect Susanoo shell and subdue the Kyuubi, grabbing it like a toy fox.'

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What does Rinnegan Madara have that comes even close to the Perfect Susanoo Kyuubi?

The Rinnegan? The Rinnegan is a joke compared to what Hashirama can do. Meteors? If Hashirama caught a Bijuudama with the wood golem, a far weaker jutsu than Shinsuusenju, what makes you think he can't catch a Meteor with a being that is 100 times bigger than Kurama? Even if it hits, Hashi will just regenerate.

Perfect Susanoo? Hashirama beat PS + Kurama. PS looks bad in comparison.

Katons, shurikens? lol.

Wood Release? Are you joking? Wood release against Hashirama? Hashirama has chakra league larger than Madara's. If madara can use 25 Mokubunshins with Susanoo, how many do you think Hashirama can use?

Madara said it himself. Only Hashirama can beat him.

Madara needs the Juubi to fight Hashirama right now.

You act as if madara was far below hasirama he wasn't.
Hashirama was the victor be he certainly did not toss madara around like a rag doll.
If they were to fight now madara would have the rinnegan and the very same techniques as hashirama himself.
Not to mention he now has unlimited chakra and can't die.

If you think hashirama is beating him again.Think again.

 

[-immortal-]

he has Mokuton the same as hashi.
Rinnegan...
and Ems..how More OP can you get...
how wait..having the Juubi (Jichuuriki

 

[Gricay]

Madara mastered Wood Release on a high level. He can just use Flower Tree World and it's all over for the alliance.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You act as if madara was far below hasirama he wasn't.
Hashirama was the victor be he certainly did not toss madara around like a rag doll.

Madara had the kyuubi. Hashirama fought alone.

Madara's strongest weapon, PS, is weaker than what Madara had back then.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

The fact that madara has hashiramas cells n upgraded to the rinnegan which hashirama still has no idea about madara wins human path hes back into the grave he cN also match all of his wood techs

 

[Legendary Uchiha K9999]

Madara Is Truly Stronger than Hashirama

(FACE IT) You cant just say a man earn all the gods power and still be Loser against Hashirama......

IT WOULDNT MAKE ANY SENSE...then again at least mention that Hashirama Gonna Need a Hand to beat Madara


Its too funny if you say Madara Vs Hashirama and Madara LOST........Its Like REALLY.........