[Discussion] Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

[sasuke base]

Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time

this before Jesus died on the cross no one went to heaven in the bible it says they go to paradise and and he comes back they will got to heaven with every body that has lived and believe in him will go to

 

[Sasuke082594]

Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time

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[UnrealSoul]

To explain why I believe there is no Afterlife, I will use a tale directly from the Bible itself: The resurrection of Lazarus.

Lazarus was a holy man and a friend of Jesus. Now, when Lazarus died, even Jesus was in grief and was driven to tears. This caused Jesus to bring Lazarus back from the dead.

But, think about this for a second. Lazarus was Jesus' friend. That means that Lazarus was holy enough to get into Heaven, right? But, since Heaven is the greatest place ever, why would Jesus remove him from there just to bring him back to Earth, just so he die a second time? Why would he do that to someone whom he cared so much about?

Now, I understand that Jesus could have brought him back to ease his and others' grief. But Jesus isn't a selfish person, and this is a selfish act. Jesus also has shown that he does not use his power for personal benefit, such as when Satan tempted him.

This is why I don't believe we go to Heaven when we die. Thoughts?

Note: Please don't see things like Jesus and God and stuff doesn't exist. No one cares and this discussion is based on their existence. If you don't believe they exist, but still wanna discuss, then pretend they exist, pretend this is from an anime/manga.

Good points, Have you ever heard from people that died and said they went to heaven but God sent them back to earth?

Could it be that when jesus "wanted"(Like attempting to bring Lazzy back lol) to bring him back that God aloud him to because Lazarus still served a purpose?

I hope their is a heaven...because earth is fcking hell with cold and warm happy places.


Edit: Oh poop seems like i'm wrong based on the other posts I read.

 

[Cassosphere]

Agh! you guys have it all wrong! The reason why Jesus was crying is because he was ashamed of the non belief in his people.

The first passage, John 11:1-45, concerns the death and resurrection of Lazarus, brother of Mary and Martha and a friend of our Lord. Jesus wept (John 11:35) when He gathered with the sisters and others mourning Lazarus' death. Jesus did not weep over the death itself since He knew Lazarus would soon be raised and ultimately spend eternity with Him in heaven. Yet He could not help but weep when confronted with the wailing and sobbing of Mary, Martha, and the other mourners (John 11:33). The original language indicates that our Lord wept 'silent tears' or tears of compassion for His friends (Romans 12:15).

 

[buddy2soul]

Why are we bringing up religion that's what I'd like to know?

 

[The Alchemist]

Why start a thread and then make retarded stipulations against those with opposing views and tell them what they can or can't say? That's not an intelligent debate you just want to entertain your deluded way of thinking; imagine if an athiest made a thread saying that there was no god then wrote something like note: down right you believe in god because no one cares blah blah blah...
How then can you have an intelligent and balanced discussion if everyone has to jump through your BS hoops

Ask yourself this, if ressurection was so uncommon why then did NO ONE write about it before the third century? Why are all of the books of the bible written at least a hundred fifty years after jesus's crucifixion? When he rose from the grave the bible states that 5000 others rose from their graves and walked the streets of jerusalem......U_U Ummm.... why did n one outside of their sect write about it? Why was it not the talk of the town (I mean a zombie apocalypse couldn't be kept quite that's simply impossible). Think people before you blindly follow plagiarized myths and legends, otay?

Now OT: No according to your bible you wouldn't go to heaven because revelation's talks about a new heaven and earth and men will dwell upon that earth not in heaven that is a perversion of the original gnostic teachings committed by the catholic church. How can you call yourself a believer and not know the history or words of your religion? Someone needs to go back to sunday school if you ask me. xd Have a good day!

 

[ChiefHermit]

You're ** xd

Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.

Your*

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Nah.It's even easier.You know what gravity is?