Why I can never forgive Itachi

[MasterofSenjutsu]

What adults did Naruto convince to change? Nagato and.....?

Zabuza. And he convinced Jiraiya that his cause was not futile in the hospital. He convinced Gaara that hate was not always the option, and I don't consider that an easy feat. He indirectly convinced Tsunade to become Hokage. There has been many time when Naruto has influenced someone.

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

yeah Ur right ; but let me see if i remember it the right Way :
"self sacrifice : that what makes a true Shinobi : Itachi could easily Let the coup succeed and he would 've been treated like a Hero from his clansmen : and lived a good life ; polished his Unbelievable talent , made them even Stronger ; take sasuke's eyes and develops to EMS (because he is , as you stated, very selfish) ; maybe Rinne ; and be the strongest having a true ARSENAL in his sleeve and NO SH1T could face him ; he could even Be the Strongest UChiha !

But he Chose Humiliation instead of Honor ; Hate instead of love ; Death instead of Life ;
to be called a traitor instead to be called a Hero of sacrifice ; witch he is Truly , Just for the sake of defending Konoha and defending what he believes it's right : and , for his Love to sasuke ; he made a plan for him to kill Itachi and return to konoha as hero ; and an S criminal S class ninja Killer : he chose to make Sasuke have the Ultimate power of the Uchiha clan : and intrusted him the clan's rebirth

HOW SELFISH HE IS !!! -.- , and How right you are : (FAIL)

( "I've failed" said Itachi : he truly said that but he meant he failed about helping sasuke to be a hero of konoha by killing his S-class Criminal brother)

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Good post, but I hope you realize the itachi fans/sasuke haters are going to carpet bomb your rep bar. In any case I agree completely. If it was narutos clan they'd be calling for itachis execution. But since sasuke is an uchiha then it's a good thing. That's basically how it works with these people. Gaara was part of an attack that got the third hokage killed. But you don't see anyone saying he should be executed right? Now, do you see the difference? The uchiha supposedly MIGHT have started a war. Gaara and his fake puppet master brother and windy city sister ACTUALLY GOT THE HOKAGE KILLED. So why no threads on how they are criminals and should die? Oh that's right they aren't uchiha so I guess it's okay. Anyways excellent post and the plus reps in the mail.

Killing the Uchiha clan was more of a PREVENTIVE measure. It is true that the Kurama attack was taken into account, but it was done because the elders did not want the Uchiha clan getting any more power. With Gaara, it happened already. And since they did not ACTUALLY kill the Hokage, they let it go to promote peace. And "if it was Naruto's clan" thing is irrelevant. Itachi killed his own clan, not another. He was ordered to by the elders. He did wake up one day and say, "It seems like a great day to kill everybody in my clan"

 

[Rexoniel]

You know....I was about to question you on the relevance of forgiveness towards a fictional character but now I can see where you're coming from. I can't forgive Itachi for sparing Sasuke's life because thanks to him Sasuke has a bunch of fanboys that make the most nonsensical threads and theories. Damn you Itachi. Damn you to hell I say!

 

[-Vegeta-]

If Itachi is a failure, then what does that make of Sasuke....

And whose fault is it that Sasuke is the way he is? That's right Itachi.

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

And whose fault is it that Sasuke is the way he is? That's right Itachi.

Fail !! Sasuke Had the choice to obey itachi's will
in fact the reason sasuke disobeyed itachi's will was Tobi's way to tell sasuke Itachi's true story !!

Sasuke Always HAD THE CHOICE !!!!!!! don't Blame itachi for sasuke's choice !

 

[F1N1X]

I guess there isn't an need for an explanation here

 

[-Vegeta-]

Fail !! Sasuke Had the choice to obey itachi's will
in fact the reason sasuke disobeyed itachi's will was Tobi's way to tell sasuke Itachi's true story !!

Sasuke Always HAD THE CHOICE !!!!!!! don't Blame itachi for sasuke's choice !

I'm not denying that Sasuke had a choice just as everyone does, but what Itachi did helped lead Sasuke down the path he has chosen to walk.

Sasuke before Itachi slaughtered his clan:

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Sasuke after:

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Itachi sat there and told Sasuke that he needed more hate.

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He used tsukuyomi on his little brother twice(both showing Sasuke the slaughter of his mother and father).

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If Itachi doesn't slaughter the uchiha clan Sasuke never seeks out Orochimaru and that means he never meets Tobi, which means Sasuke isn't anywhere near the kind of person he is now.

 

[kourosh]

itachi is HERO

 

[Melizzle]

I'm not denying that Sasuke had a choice just as everyone does, but what Itachi did helped lead Sasuke down the path he has chosen to walk.

Sasuke before Itachi slaughtered his clan:

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Sasuke after:

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Itachi sat there and told Sasuke that he needed more hate.

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He used tsukuyomi on his little brother twice(both showing Sasuke the slaughter of his mother and father).

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If Itachi doesn't slaughter the uchiha clan Sasuke never seeks out Orochimaru and that means he never meets Tobi, which means Sasuke isn't anywhere near the kind of person he is now.

That is hilarious and I'm going to +rep you for that first pic of Sasuke, but you cant say that Sasuke would be a completely different person cos he was a hater before any of this happened. He always felt inferior and always loved/hated itachi. He was the red headed step child of his family and couldve very well carried the curse of hatred all along.

And could we just blame the whole clan? If they werent being a**holes then Itachi wouldnt have had to kill then!

Then we can blame the Senju for not letting them be in politics!!!

Then we can blame tobi for attacking konoha!!

Then we can blame tobirama for edo tensai!!!

then we can blame madara for not accepting defeat!!!

Sorry but when does it stop....Sasuke had a choice just like everyone else...

 

[-Vegeta-]

That is hilarious and I'm going to +rep you for that first pic of Sasuke, but you cant say that Sasuke would be a completely different person cos he was a hater before any of this happened. He always felt inferior and always loved/hated itachi. He was the red headed step child of his family and couldve very well carried the curse of hatred all along.

And could we just blame the whole clan? If they werent being a**holes then Itachi wouldnt have had to kill then!

Then we can blame the Senju for not letting them be in politics!!!

Then we can blame tobi for attacking konoha!!

Then we can blame tobirama for edo tensai!!!

then we can blame madara for not accepting defeat!!!

Sorry but when does it stop....Sasuke had a choice just like everyone else...

As I've already said I know Sasuke had a choice, but what Itachi did to him helped lead him down the path he walks. It's true Sasuke was always jealous of Itachi, but he never had hatred for him. Sasuke loved Itachi dearly and that's clearly shown when he says Itachi's life weighed more than the leaf village.

As I said if Itachi doesn't slaughter his clan Sasuke's still in the Leaf village. This is only my opinion and you're free to disagree with it but this is how I see it.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

And whose fault is it that Sasuke is the way he is? That's right Itachi.

Lol Mr.Weasel is the prime advocate of "hatred" and now after Sasuke is in excess of it and in an overkill mode Itachi admits he failed in everything he did, and puts his faith in Naruto - the guy he advocated to kill to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, kinda ironic lol

 

[uchiha defender]

Killing the Uchiha clan was more of a PREVENTIVE measure. It is true that the Kurama attack was taken into account, but it was done because the elders did not want the Uchiha clan getting any more power. With Gaara, it happened already. And since they did not ACTUALLY kill the Hokage, they let it go to promote peace. And "if it was Naruto's clan" thing is irrelevant. Itachi killed his own clan, not another. He was ordered to by the elders. He did wake up one day and say, "It seems like a great day to kill everybody in my clan"

Killing the clan was a way of offing thier rivals. The "hateful" uchiha clan turned away from madara to have peace. Madara got upset and left. Now suddenly there is an attack on the village. The fox was being controlled by a sharringan. So of course ALL the uchiha would be suspect. I mean it's not madara is the only logical suspect considering what happened. The "hateful" uchiha even voted to put a SENJU as hokage. But not just any senju, it was THIER RIVAL CLANS LEADER. So as an act of good faith of course the uchiha were given a position in office. Oh wait that's right, they never got anything higher than cops. Nevermind being an advisor or something like that. No way they got to be cops. Woohoo! Free donuts and coffee baby! Then when uchiha get tired of the B.S now they are "hateful" and have to be killed for the sake of peace. And gaara aided in the attack that got the hokage killed. If someone took part of an attack that killed the president of any country, then that person becomes leader of another country what do you think will happen next?

 

[uchiha defender]

Lol Mr.Weasel is the prime advocate of "hatred" and now after Sasuke is in excess of it and in an overkill mode, Itachi admits he failed in everything he did, and puts his faith in Naruto - the guy he advocated to kill to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, kinda ironic lol

Good post, one of the main reasons sasuke haters use to bash sasuke is because he didn't do what itachi wanted him to. But then they revile and deprecate him because they say he doesn't think goes with what people want him to. You notice how they seem to forget about how he told him to kill naruto his BEST FRIEND right? Yeah sasuke stop being a selfish emo prick and do what itachi wanted you to......except the kill naruto part.

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

I'm not denying that Sasuke had a choice just as everyone does, but what Itachi did helped lead Sasuke down the path he has chosen to walk.

Sasuke before Itachi slaughtered his clan:

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Sasuke after:

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Itachi sat there and told Sasuke that he needed more hate.

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He used tsukuyomi on his little brother twice(both showing Sasuke the slaughter of his mother and father).

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If Itachi doesn't slaughter the uchiha clan Sasuke never seeks out Orochimaru and that means he never meets Tobi, which means Sasuke isn't anywhere near the kind of person he is now.

nope ! :
it could End after Itachi 's death ; But sasuke Chose revenge to his brother rather than resting his soul !
sorry guys but you really need to focus on the questions of : Who is the Avenger ? ; and does Avenging his brother will bring sasuke the Satisfaction he desires ??
in general brief ; Sasuke is the victim ; and tobi is the Criminal !!
if tobi didn't tell sasuke Itachi's story the way he did it ; sasuke would have never desired to destroy konoha ,
in fact , tobi knew sasuke will listen if he said he's madara; and he knew that sasuke could be easily Dyed at any color , Tobi knew how to say itachi's tale in a certain way to make sasuke choose the choise TOBI wants him to chose

 

[Mizukata]

itachi did the best he could.he is a ninja he has superiors namely the elders,he was ordered to kill.remeber he did not have the idea danzo and the other elders are the ones responsible for the uchiha clan massacre.

 

[-Vegeta-]

nope ! :
it could End after Itachi 's death ; But sasuke Chose revenge to his brother rather than resting his soul !
sorry guys but you really need to focus on the questions of : Who is the Avenger ? ; and does Avenging his brother will bring sasuke the Satisfaction he desires ??
in general brief ; Sasuke is the victim ; and tobi is the Criminal !!
if tobi didn't tell sasuke Itachi's story the way he did it ; sasuke would have never desired to destroy konoha ,
in fact , tobi knew sasuke will listen if he said he's madara; and he knew that sasuke could be easily Dyed at any color , Tobi knew how to say itachi's tale in a certain way to make sasuke choose the choise TOBI wants him to chose

As I said if Itachi never slaughters the clan then the Sasuke we're seeing now never exists. You're free to disagree with my opinion but this is how I see it. Itachi will always be responsible for the way Sasuke turned out in my eyes.

 

[Blaze Release]

As I said if Itachi never slaughters the clan then the Sasuke we're seeing now never exists. You're free to disagree with my opinion but this is how I see it. Itachi will always be responsible for the way Sasuke turned out in my eyes.

Since you cannot see the full picture allow me. We cannot blame itachi for the slaughter of his clan. Yes he did it, but that was the idea of the elders, who took advantage of the 13 year old traumatised by war and love for his village. Even if itachi did kill his clan and sasuke found out that it was because of the elders, he wouldve wanted revenge village anyway.

Right now thats the aim. He wants revenge for what konoha did to his clan and itachi and not what itachi did to him. He has already forgiven him and his problem is with the elders. Its true that itachi forced sasuke to become stronger through hate, but sooner or later if he did find out the truth, he wouldve pretty much turned out the say way he is now

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

As I said if Itachi never slaughters the clan then the Sasuke we're seeing now never exists. You're free to disagree with my opinion but this is how I see it. Itachi will always be responsible for the way Sasuke turned out in my eyes.

*What will happen if Uchiha clan succeeded in the Coup d'etat ? *

Many possible consequences : 1stly : the remaining Konohagakure allies would plan an assassination with alliance with all the countries around them : (including the sunagakure because the Sunagakure's goal was the annihilation of konoha , and assisting the few konoha remains to annihilate the Uchiha clan, and then assassinate the konoha remains : result : No more KONOHA )
wich could have a chance to create a massive and chaotic battle between countries, and the risk of the destruction of konoha !
so ; Itachi Chose to entrust Sasuke his clan's revival ; in parallel with konoha's prosperity !
convinced ??

 

[uchiha defender]

Since you cannot see the full picture allow me. We cannot blame itachi for the slaughter of his clan. Yes he did it, but that was the idea of the elders, who took advantage of the 13 year old traumatised by war and love for his village. Even if itachi did kill his clan and sasuke found out that it was because of the elders, he wouldve wanted revenge village anyway.

Right now thats the aim. He wants revenge for what konoha did to his clan and itachi and not what itachi did to him. He has already forgiven him and his problem is with the elders. Its true that itachi forced sasuke to become stronger through hate, but sooner or later if he did find out the truth, he wouldve pretty much turned out the say way he is now

Good logical post, plus rep