why hiruzen is actually the strongest kage and would beat the 5 kages(proof)

[New Era]

it doesn't mean that hiruzen is old that he is not powerful, he was actually the most powerful kage of all time before he died.

hiruzen was known to know every technique probably not kg but probably all six basic nature releases.(it is not impossible to learn all six but all you need to do is train there was no limit to a ninja in learning basic nature types)

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hiruzen was actually a professer so he was like orochimaru always searching for power so it would be understandable if hiruzen would know every nature release with mastery like what he has shown against his battles against a master wood release user and water release user.

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look at his yin and yang ability(only tobi and the toad sage can do this because of there yin and yang manipulation)so we know hiruzen is actually powerful since only a 500 year old frog and a powerful uchiha can do it.

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also hiruzen has a great mind as well shown so he must be powerful at yin and yang attributes because think about this genjutsu is yin and you need a strong mind to fight back and to regain your senses hiruzen did just that anyone else would have died and hiruzen was old at this time.(hashirama/tobirama darkness genjutsu)

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so we know that hiruzen has mastery of all basic nature types and even yin and yang the thing that tops off hiruzen to be the strongest of any kage is this.

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hiruzen absorb these two peoples abilities tobirama senju and hashirama senju and now with there whole souls absorbs hiruzen was access to there chakra and there abilities.

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even if hiruzen took those two inot his shadow clones,everything that the clones got get back to the original user so hiruzen would gain lots of chakra from senju,space time(tobirama),summon a tsunami of water from molecules),wood release,water release,bringer of darkness,edo tensai (tobirama),and hashirama healing so in essence hiruzen would actually be on par with edo madara.

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basically when hiruzen sealed the hokages he can get access to there power and chakra so hiruzen is basically had the power of edo madara except for the ems and six path's abilities and would beat the 5 kages because of wood release,edo tensai,hashirama healing,space time(tobirama),and the bringer of darkness tech.

so hiruzen was actually the strongest kage.

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[Thane]

There is no way this thread could possibly turn into a flame war!

Also, adding the word "proof" makes it even more credible! What a thread!

 

[-Logic-]

*Doesn't give a shit*

Seriously man, power-wise, it's Hashi.

DEAL WITH IT.

 

[zombiejesus]

oh good we are back to the strongest hokage instead of tobi .......i am starting to see why there are few members from farther back than last year on this site

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Tobirama easily pwns him.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

You never really proved anything, Minato would stomp him and so would Hashirama.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

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OT: none, the less good effort.

 

[New Era]

There is no way this thread could possibly turn into a flame war!

Also, adding the word "proof" makes it even more credible! What a thread!

wow ok but just wanted to sya that hiruzen had there abilities and chakra

*Doesn't give a shit*

Seriously man, power-wise, it's Hashi.

DEAL WITH IT.

idk hiruzen has hashirama and tobirama abilities and chakra

 

[Parrish]

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[MrScribble]

Hashirama is the strongest 'KAGE'... I think we can all establish that now...

 

[Uxellius]

You got my +rep for this analysis ... keep it up

 

[OnPoint]

"hiruzen absorb these two peoples abilities tobirama senju and hashirama senju and now with there whole souls absorbs hiruzen was access to there chakra and there abilities."

?

 

[SatchiZurake]

Hiruzen didn't absorb the first and second when he used reaper death seal, he locked all three of them (Hashi, Tobirama, and himself) in the belly of the god of death. He did not in any way absorb their abilities. Also, even if he had, how on earth would he use them if he's, you know, DEAD?

And most of this is pure speculation, not "evidence"

 

[New Era]

Hashirama is the strongest 'KAGE'... I think we can all establish that now...

but hiruzen would have space time,wood release, and healing as well he is tobirama and hashirama and all basic nature types mastered combined.

You never really proved anything, Minato would stomp him and so would Hashirama.

hiruzen would have space time and edo tensai because oof tobirama so i thnk hiruzen would beat minato or just since hiruzen can change the land with wood release since minato relies on markings.

 

[BodyFlicker]

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OT: none, the less good effort.

Nice avatar..

 

[XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx]

sir no Hashi or Yodaime Hokage could be considered the strongest.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I love how you left out Minato, we all know he'd stomp his old ass.

 

[zombiejesus]

i hope this brain tumor i have kills me before i have to read another thread like this one

 

[bajram]

I dont see it being the strongest after all those things that madara said said for Hashi...being considered a fairy tale just like SO6P....i would call hes words more of a prof than oros, since oro neversaw hashi fight so he can speak what he want + he was able to stop that susano that was like bijuu+kyuubi, thats just creazy lol, so for me Hashi>sarutobi.

 

[New Era]

Hiruzen didn't absorb the first and second when he used reaper death seal, he locked all three of them (Hashi, Tobirama, and himself) in the belly of the god of death. He did not in any way absorb their abilities.

And most of this is pure speculation, not "evidence"

didn't he seal them also in his shadow clones and then the shadow clones reverted back to hiruzen which that sealing technique took hiruzen own life and the people he absorbed into the death belly.

remember he has the seal of a jinchuriki on him so i think he absorbed them.