why hiruzen is actually the strongest kage and would beat the 5 kages(proof)

[XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx]

I love how you left out Minato, we all know he'd stomp his old ass.

Yeah Minato is freaking beast man he would molest Hirzuen

 

[SatchiZurake]

didn't he seal them also in his shadow clones and then the shadow clones reverted back to hiruzen which that sealing technique took hiruzen own life and the people he absorbed into the death belly.

remember he has the seal of a jinchuriki on him so i think he absorbed them.

No...not at all....where are you getting that idea?

Also, even if he did absorb their abilities, it's completely irrelevant because he's dead and has no way to be revived, even with Edo Tensei.

 

[gordo1]

Hashi>Hiruzen. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[New Era]

I love how you left out Minato, we all know he'd stomp his old ass.

sir no Hashi or Yodaime Hokage could be considered the strongest.

hiruzen actually has space time and edo tensai that's why i think minato would not beat him.

 

[OnPoint]

hiruzen actually has space time and edo tensai that's why i think minato would not beat him.

Yo, mate, just chill yeah.

 

[New Era]

No...not at all....where are you getting that idea?

Also, even if he did absorb their abilities, it's completely irrelevant because he's dead and has no way to be revived, even with Edo Tensei.

but i mean he was the strongest when he died that's what i am saying, but im just askin if people would agree if he did gain there powers would you believe so?

 

[TheSages456]

it doesn't mean that hiruzen is old that he is not powerful, he was actually the most powerful kage of all time before he died.

hiruzen was known to know every technique probably not kg but probably all six basic nature releases.(it is not impossible to learn all six but all you need to do is train there was no limit to a ninja in learning basic nature types)

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hiruzen was actually a professer so he was like orochimaru always searching for power so it would be understandable if hiruzen would know every nature release with mastery like what he has shown against his battles against a master wood release user and water release user.

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look at his yin and yang ability(only tobi and the toad sage can do this because of there yin and yang manipulation)so we know hiruzen is actually powerful since only a 500 year old frog and a powerful uchiha can do it.

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also hiruzen has a great mind as well shown so he must be powerful at yin and yang attributes because think about this genjutsu is yin and you need a strong mind to fight back and to regain your senses hiruzen did just that anyone else would have died and hiruzen was old at this time.(hashirama/tobirama darkness genjutsu)

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so we know that hiruzen has mastery of all basic nature types and even yin and yang the thing that tops off hiruzen to be the strongest of any kage is this.

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hiruzen absorb these two peoples abilities tobirama senju and hashirama senju and now with there whole souls absorbs hiruzen was access to there chakra and there abilities.

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even if hiruzen took those two inot his shadow clones,everything that the clones got get back to the original user so hiruzen would gain lots of chakra from senju,space time(tobirama),summon a tsunami of water from molecules),wood release,water release,bringer of darkness,edo tensai (tobirama),and hashirama healing so in essence hiruzen would actually be on par with edo madara.

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basically when hiruzen sealed the hokages he can get access to there power and chakra so hiruzen is basically had the power of edo madara except for the ems and six path's abilities and would beat the 5 kages because of wood release,edo tensai,hashirama healing,space time(tobirama),and the bringer of darkness tech.

so hiruzen was actually the strongest kage.

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Da Fuq? this thread is utter garbage.

 

[Lordlloyd7]

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[SatchiZurake]

but i mean he was the strongest when he died that's what i am saying, but im just askin if people would agree if he did gain there powers would you believe so?

No he did not gain their powers, they weren't absorbed into his body, they were absorbed into the god of death.

Also there's no evidence anywhere that states that he was stronger than Hashirama. Minato is debatable.

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Hiruzen cannot beat the kages, Hashirama is stronger than hiruzen and a combination of immortal Madara + Hashirama had a hard time against the kages.

 

[New Era]

No he did not gain their powers, they weren't absorbed into his body, they were absorbed into the god of death.

Also there's no evidence anywhere that states that he was stronger than Hashirama. Minato is debatable.

well iruka said it but you have a point

 

[Tartarus]

Minato and Hashirama>Hiruzen

 

[Sasuke..]

Tobirama easily pwns him.

Atleast give a ****ing explanation as of why tobirama would own him cause we have 2 second screen time of him in the anime/manga so back your comment up man, great thread thanks for the effort.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama>Hiruzen
Minato>Hiruzen

 

[Gooner4life]

I would say he is the most skilled of the five but in terms of power, it is definitely Hashi.

 

[Stark]

I saw this

basically when hiruzen sealed the hokages he can get access to there power and chakra so hiruzen is basically had the power of edo madara except for the ems and six path's abilities and would beat the 5 kages because of wood release,edo tensai,hashirama healing,space time(tobirama),and the bringer of darkness tech.

And I face palmed.