Why Hashirama > BM Naruto

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OK so, I've seen some people claiming BM Naruto surpasses all other Hokage's. This is possibly true except for when it comes to the 1st Hokage. BM Naruto cannot defeat Hashirama Senju. This is why:

'Hashirama Senju is considered by many as the most powerful shinobi of his time. He was greatly respected by most shinobi during his lifetime, such that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he respected the most as well as detested. His prowess and abilities were so great that he was able to not only fight on equal footing with Madara Uchiha despite his power of Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan and having the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox at his side, but even gained victory in the end and survived the battle.'
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Hashirama did not use Kurama against Madara at ANY POINT in the battle. He simply wrestled it away from Madara and his wife sealed it inside of her. People think she then actively aided him in battle; no, she aided him because the 9 tails was locked away and couldn't be use by Madara. SIMPLE.

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Hashirama won against EMS Madara who had Kurama under his control. Dont forget this is Kurama with double the chakra (Yin chakra not sealed at the time). Hashirama controlled 7 tailed beasts at a point in time. 7. Base Naruto (no Kurama basically)< Madara. If Hashirama won, how on earth would Naruto beat him?

Hashirama can just suppress Kurama's chakra and a major source of Naruto's stamina and power is no longer available to him. Hence, BM is rendered useless. Remember that necklace Tsunade passed down to Naruto which could control his Kyuubi chakra? Are you forgetting where it came from? Able to supress Kyuubi's chakra and look how small it is:
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He would not be able to dodge a non-edo, non-plot no jutsu Hashirama Mokuton attack. It created the entire hidden leaf forrest for goodness sake.

Yamato was able to restrain 4 tailed Naruto with his Wood Release/Mokuton.
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Madara used his Wood Release to attack and kill nearly a whole army section. These Wood Releases' power is a small fraction of the power Hashirama is able to generate. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT HASHIRAMA'S MOKUTON CAN SUPRESS THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA. Mokuton is the strongest KKG aside from the eye dojutsus. Yamato admitted he was nowhere near the level of Hashirama Senju, and Madara was able to use such a powerful Mokuton technique with his first try. Now imagine how strong Hashirama's mastered version was.
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Look at how many people have fought to get just a tiny bit of Hashirama's DNA. His chakra reserves were immense, and have subsequently allowed other shinobi's to amplify and control various other abilities. An entire Zetsu army was made out of his DNA. Tobi is flippin trying to grow another Hashirama for goodness sake:
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Hashirama also has Bringer of Darkness. Tell me WTF will Naruto do against that?

I'm not hating on Naruto or anything but people need to realise that Hashirama Senju would defeat him everytime.
 
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it true but naruto with kurama has more chakra and is faster plus naruto still 16
 

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it true but naruto with kurama has more chakra and is faster plus naruto still 16

But Naruto would not be able to use Kurama during the fight. And so what if he's 16, what's that got to do with it. It only shows that he's not ready to challenge Hashirama, he's too young.
 

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Perfect thread. Sage mode naruto cannot defeat madara so let alone hashirama.
 

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lol we dont know much about the first hokage , we still havent seen much from naruto either, only his TBB is stronger then all 7 tails beast +his speed+power, he was trying to save the tail beasts not kill. i wana see when naruto is serious
 

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first hokage is the best i know.. but naruto can control his tail beast.. its but like when he was young tht the 9tail was seal in..but this time its different ..they kurama and naruto are part of easy other.. First hogake never fought a perfect jin ,
 

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I do agree that hashirama > current naruto.
But bringer of darkness isnt working on naruto. Not because he is perfect jinchuricki though
 

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naruto now > far greater than hashirama

yea i agree in that book where all hashirams powers are discibed and how he was in his prime its clearly stated naruto is better
oh.... thats right i forgot , there is no book... we dont know of his powers
my bad
 

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naruto now > far greater than hashirama

You missed the entire point of the thread :flaw:

NARUTO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE ANY KYUUBI CHAKRA DURING THE BATTLE.​
 

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I agree with all your points. +rep
 

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OK so, I've seen some people claiming BM Naruto surpasses all other Hokage's. This is possibly true except for when it comes to the 1st Hokage. BM Naruto cannot defeat Hashirama Senju. This is why:

'Hashirama Senju is considered by many as the most powerful shinobi of his time. He was greatly respected by most shinobi during his lifetime, such that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he respected the most as well as detested. His prowess and abilities were so great that he was able to not only fight on equal footing with Madara Uchiha despite his power of Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan and having the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox at his side, but even gained victory in the end and survived the battle.'
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Hashirama did not use Kurama against Madara at ANY POINT in the battle. He simply wrestled it away from Madara and his wife sealed it inside of her. People think she then actively aided him in battle; no, she aided him because the 9 tails was locked away and couldn't be use by Madara. SIMPLE.

Hashirama won against EMS Madara who had Kurama under his control. Dont forget this is Kurama with double the chakra (Yin chakra not sealed at the time). Hashirama controlled 7 tailed beasts at a point in time. 7. Base Naruto (no Kurama basically)< Madara. If Hashirama won, how on earth would Naruto beat him?

Hashirama can just suppress Kurama's chakra and a major source of Naruto's stamina and power is no longer available to him. Hence, BM and KM are rendered useless. Remember that necklace Tsunade passed down to Naruto which could control his Kyuubi chakra? Are you forgetting where it came from? Able to supress Kyuubi's chakra and look how small it is:
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Yamato was able to restrain 4 tailed Naruto with his Wood Release/Mokuton. Madara used his Wood Release to attack and kill nearly a whole army section. These Wood Releases' power is a small fraction of the power Hashirama is able to generate. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT HASHIRAMA'S MOKUTON CAN SUPRESS THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA. Mokuton is the strongest KKG aside from the eye dojutsus. Yamato admitted he was nowhere near the level of Hashirama Senju, and Madara was able to use such a powerful Mokuton technique with his first try. Now imagine how strong Hashirama's mastered version was.
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Skip to 2mins:

Look at how many people have fought to get just a tiny bit of Hashirama's DNA. His chakra reserves were immense, and have subsequently allowed other shinobi's to amplify and control various other abilities. An entire Zetsu army was made out of his DNA. Tobi is flippin trying to grow another Hashirama for goodness sake:
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Hashirama also has Bringer of Darkness. Tell me WTF will Naruto do against that?

I'm not hating on Naruto or anything but people need to realise that Hashirama Senju would defeat him everytime.

sounds legit... U_U
 

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Hashirama might have advantage if Naruto was fully transformed into Kyuubi, but in human form Naruto would be simply too fast.
 

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Hashirama might have advantage if Naruto was fully transformed into Kyuubi, but in human form Naruto would be simply too fast.

Now I know you're just trolling..................
 

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You missed the entire point of the thread :flaw:

NARUTO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE ANY KYUUBI CHAKRA DURING THE BATTLE.​

If u got to take away some of Naruto's power to match the first it's clear who's better
 

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OK so, I've seen some people claiming BM Naruto surpasses all other Hokage's. This is possibly true except for when it comes to the 1st Hokage. BM Naruto cannot defeat Hashirama Senju. This is why:

'Hashirama Senju is considered by many as the most powerful shinobi of his time. He was greatly respected by most shinobi during his lifetime, such that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he respected the most as well as detested. His prowess and abilities were so great that he was able to not only fight on equal footing with Madara Uchiha despite his power of Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan and having the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox at his side, but even gained victory in the end and survived the battle.'
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Hashirama did not use Kurama against Madara at ANY POINT in the battle. He simply wrestled it away from Madara and his wife sealed it inside of her. People think she then actively aided him in battle; no, she aided him because the 9 tails was locked away and couldn't be use by Madara. SIMPLE.

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Hashirama won against EMS Madara who had Kurama under his control. Dont forget this is Kurama with double the chakra (Yin chakra not sealed at the time). Hashirama controlled 7 tailed beasts at a point in time. 7. Base Naruto (no Kurama basically)< Madara. If Hashirama won, how on earth would Naruto beat him?

Hashirama can just suppress Kurama's chakra and a major source of Naruto's stamina and power is no longer available to him. Hence, BM and KM are rendered useless. Remember that necklace Tsunade passed down to Naruto which could control his Kyuubi chakra? Are you forgetting where it came from? Able to supress Kyuubi's chakra and look how small it is:
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Yamato was able to restrain 4 tailed Naruto with his Wood Release/Mokuton.
You must be registered for see images

Madara used his Wood Release to attack and kill nearly a whole army section. These Wood Releases' power is a small fraction of the power Hashirama is able to generate. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT HASHIRAMA'S MOKUTON CAN SUPRESS THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA. Mokuton is the strongest KKG aside from the eye dojutsus. Yamato admitted he was nowhere near the level of Hashirama Senju, and Madara was able to use such a powerful Mokuton technique with his first try. Now imagine how strong Hashirama's mastered version was.
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Skip to 2mins:

Look at how many people have fought to get just a tiny bit of Hashirama's DNA. His chakra reserves were immense, and have subsequently allowed other shinobi's to amplify and control various other abilities. An entire Zetsu army was made out of his DNA. Tobi is flippin trying to grow another Hashirama for goodness sake:
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Hashirama also has Bringer of Darkness. Tell me WTF will Naruto do against that?

I'm not hating on Naruto or anything but people need to realise that Hashirama Senju would defeat him everytime.

Base Naruto is still pretty good with his rasengan. If he can catch the first hokage with it. Maybe he transforms into the Second Hokage and confuses Hashirama for a bit while he charges Rasenshuriken
 

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Now I know you're just trolling..................

Im not trolling, Hashirama might be able to catch bigass Kyuubi with Mokuton, but Naruto in chakra mode is a whole different story. Mokuton just wont be able to keep up with ririculous speed like that.
 

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OK so, I've seen some people claiming BM Naruto surpasses all other Hokage's. This is possibly true except for when it comes to the 1st Hokage. BM Naruto cannot defeat Hashirama Senju. This is why:

'Hashirama Senju is considered by many as the most powerful shinobi of his time. He was greatly respected by most shinobi during his lifetime, such that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he respected the most as well as detested. His prowess and abilities were so great that he was able to not only fight on equal footing with Madara Uchiha despite his power of Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan and having the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox at his side, but even gained victory in the end and survived the battle.'
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Hashirama did not use Kurama against Madara at ANY POINT in the battle. He simply wrestled it away from Madara and his wife sealed it inside of her. People think she then actively aided him in battle; no, she aided him because the 9 tails was locked away and couldn't be use by Madara. SIMPLE.

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Hashirama won against EMS Madara who had Kurama under his control. Dont forget this is Kurama with double the chakra (Yin chakra not sealed at the time). Hashirama controlled 7 tailed beasts at a point in time. 7. Base Naruto (no Kurama basically)< Madara. If Hashirama won, how on earth would Naruto beat him?

Hashirama can just suppress Kurama's chakra and a major source of Naruto's stamina and power is no longer available to him. Hence, BM and KM are rendered useless. Remember that necklace Tsunade passed down to Naruto which could control his Kyuubi chakra? Are you forgetting where it came from? Able to supress Kyuubi's chakra and look how small it is:
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Yamato was able to restrain 4 tailed Naruto with his Wood Release/Mokuton.
You must be registered for see images

Madara used his Wood Release to attack and kill nearly a whole army section. These Wood Releases' power is a small fraction of the power Hashirama is able to generate. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT HASHIRAMA'S MOKUTON CAN SUPRESS THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA. Mokuton is the strongest KKG aside from the eye dojutsus. Yamato admitted he was nowhere near the level of Hashirama Senju, and Madara was able to use such a powerful Mokuton technique with his first try. Now imagine how strong Hashirama's mastered version was.
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Skip to 2mins:

Look at how many people have fought to get just a tiny bit of Hashirama's DNA. His chakra reserves were immense, and have subsequently allowed other shinobi's to amplify and control various other abilities. An entire Zetsu army was made out of his DNA. Tobi is flippin trying to grow another Hashirama for goodness sake:
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Hashirama also has Bringer of Darkness. Tell me WTF will Naruto do against that?

I'm not hating on Naruto or anything but people need to realise that Hashirama Senju would defeat him everytime.

1. hashirama may have taken control over the kyubi when he fought madara WITHOUT RINNEGAN OR MOKUTON
2.if hashirama wrestled the kyubi away it cannot truly be madara+kyubi vs hashirama
3.hashirama can supress kyubi mode and bijuu mode yes , but thats purely bad match up , its nothing to do with strength , so does this mean yamato>BM naruto? no... just no....
4.hashirama didnt seem like a big deal when he was an edo and fought hiruzen , he didnt generate any power with wood style,and RINNEGAN>EMS>DOTON>MS>MOKUTON , so basically wood style as as much of a big deal as you say it is
5.look at how many people have fought over the kyubi and narutos power , people fought over hashiramas DNA to maintain and acquire rinnegan , simple explanation , they dont want his power , they want the sages power
6.bringer of darkness is his brothers jutsu , and genjutsu doesnt work on naruto any more trololol
7. i shall power scale for you
minato was of similar power to the kyubi,the 2nd hokage and 1st hokage fought against hiruzen ,and hiruzen won , then minato was considered stronger than hiruzen , so the food chain of all hokage , sannin and naruto:
tsunade<orochimaru<tobirama<jiraiya<hashirama<hiruzen<minato<naruto

btw im not a fanboy
 
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