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Kage in the Making 👑
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have you seen the sheer size of that one panel madara vs shodai? it was clear kurama was attacking hashirama and not madara. we know mokuton created the forest of death, and we've seen what happens when madara used a fraction of the power he got from hashirama vs alliance. think yamato times a million and you'll get hashirama. hes 1st hokage for a reason and he beat EMS for a reason. hes on a completely different level to everyone except kabuto and rikudo sennin.
and the biggest reason why he can control kyuubi is the necklace, not necessarily mokuton alone.
and the biggest reason why he can control kyuubi is the necklace, not necessarily mokuton alone.
they were hardly going all out, and hiruzen had to seal them at the cost of his own life with the strongest sealing tech in narutoverse
because no one saw hashirama fight madara. hes praised as strongest hokage because the people saying that didn't live in a time where they'd seen hashi and tobirama go all out vs madara/kinkaku force.
what? no it isnt.
no he didnt. he sealed them at cost of his own life.
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the fight was for control of the village, madara just fought him alone to get his DNA. losing would have achieved nothing but set his goals back alot.
edo hashirama isn't real hashirama.
hashirama had a super advanced bloodline that can create a forest from nothing so all he was doing was leveling the field. and madara didnt run. he probably used izanagi to fake being dead
hashirama was in a barrier restricting the scale of the jutsu he could use. madara was in a huge battlefield
not necessarily. he said he wanted to test it on the alliance
kabuto himself admitted orochimaru perfected it.
madara: dont misunderstand. you didnt create this power
when posing as madara. nothing tobi said when he was madara can be taken seriously without proof
yes it was. how absurd that it not being complete would mean the souls come back weaker. thats not how it works.
he killed himself to barely take them out after basically doing no damage to them and was toyed with the whole time
he most certainly fought it in order to seize control of it from madara.
or maybe he didnt and thats why hes not as famous.
from a story perspective, its just not important to go back in time repeatedly.
mokuton wont be shattered so easily when hashis chakra is fuelling it.
eh no. his fighting style is unknown but oro had him fight long range. and he took a fair distance from madara in their sole panel.
madara barely cared, and it was possibly his first time ever using it.
they are. madara obtained a FRACTION of hashiramas power
didnt preta get back up?
he got half his power sealed by minato. that proof enough?
well no one saw his battle with madara so those saying "his time" could be wrong. maybe no ones surpassed him yet besides kabuto.
eh we know enough. his cells are being used by three major characters FFS
no he was back to the same level as before, only with rinnegan and mokuton added to his power. he went to rinnegan to fend off a FRS.
with bijuus, yes he would
based on?
so tsunade > minato? how absurd
its said he had the most talent and speed, not the most power
orochimaru was the third's primary choice over minato AND jiraiya.
not when kuramas chakras been cut in half.
