Why Edo Tensei should be counted in Top 10s.

[MinaButt]

Some people include it some don't. Same with the sages family.

 

[swirlyshark]

The main argument i've seen is that it's too much of a 'broken' jutsu and posts saying Kabuto doesn't deserve such power. Well...that's quite possibly the dumbest point i've seen.

Literally no ninja has worked so hard to earn and create one jutsu as Kabuto Yakushi did with ET.

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Worked with Oro to adapt it in the first place.
Years of testing.
Took Oro's cells and implanted them into self which was painful AND took genius to do.
Learned all the dead ninja information, techs and locations. Even ninja from decades before him.
Collecting and graverobbed all of the bodies without getting caught.
Mastered Sage Mode through his own skill.
Bought a bunch of nifty capes.
Perfected the Jutsu himself.
Collected a bunch of dead bodies to use as sacrifices.
Made a perfect prime form of Madara Uchiha.

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It took a resourceful, sneaky, powerful medical genius to perfect and use such a jutsu and people should give credit where credits due. If you just restrict ET because it makes the list more 'boring' to you (not sure why it would, it only puts 2 people slightly higher on the list whereas the Sage and his crappy family are always counted and take up the majority of the damn list.
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you do realize et takes prep time and any top 10 wouldn't allow that much time

 

[HiddenSound]

you do realize et takes prep time and any top 10 wouldn't allow that much time

So does learning Sage Mode or awakening the Rinnegan.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Its a ****ing cartoon. You count everything kishi gives a character. Too many trolls think too hard about this show

I have a feeling you're on the wrong website bud.

 

[Nattana]

Kabuto and Orochimaru spent years learning/perfecting ET just like other characters spent their time learning other techniques. I see no reason not to count it.

 

[RedRobin]

Has ET every been used in a battle where there was no prep? No Its only ever been used when someone has had prep or just plain out was not battling when they used the technique.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I personally count them in my own list anywho. I just don't put the "Edo" there" .

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I personally count them in my own list anywho. I just don't put the "Edo" there" .

Oh i'm not talking about animated people, i'm talking it used as an offensive jutsu.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Has ET every been used in a battle where there was no prep? No Its only ever been used when someone has had prep or just plain out was not battling when they used the technique.

What makes you think Orochimaru didn't have to fight in this fight? There wasn't really prep and Orochimaru could've easily fought alongside them, he just wanted to observe how strong they were from a scientist's perspective. He found it amusing.

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[RedRobin]

What makes you think Orochimaru didn't have to fight in this fight? There wasn't really prep and Orochimaru could've easily fought alongside them, he just wanted to observe how strong they were from a scientist's perspective. He found it amusing.

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Are you talking about the edo hokages?

 

[RikudouMadara]

Oh i'm not talking about animated people, i'm talking it used as an offensive jutsu.

Ah...I see...forgive me Numbers as I didn't read. My apologies, but as far that if I was to make a list with everyone at their most powerful..... I would definitely include it as a jutsu. I mean ....don't most take into consideration Madaras most powerful jutsu...the Rinnegan...? ^_^

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Ah...I see...forgive me Numbers as I didn't read. My apologies, but as far that if I was to make a list with everyone at their most powerful..... I would definitely include it as a jutsu. I mean ....don't most take into consideration Madaras most powerful jutsu...the Rinnegan...? ^_^

That is very true. I feel like the old Kabuto-improved Maddy was the only exception to the rule because he was a BIG character and nobody knew what he was truly capable of without it bc we'd never been shown non-edo Madara.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

things go bump in the night

 

[1000 Chirping Birds]

Ngl, I personally wouldn't have counted it if it were my thing to make top 10s but youve got good points

 

[Inert Brian]

With ET, DSM Kabuto is the strongest, non jin in the Naruto verse. SM Madara is a close second though.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

With ET, DSM Kabuto is the strongest, non jin in the Naruto verse. SM Madara is a close second though.

As awesome as that statement is....even I have to admit current winged susanoo Sasuke can defeat him. Even with Manda II, the entire army and aerial abilities...he can just sweep through and get Kabuto instantly. Kabuto is a firm #5 these days, right above Edo Hashirama.

 

[ShiroT]

Then that's fine but if you want a factual legitimate list then they'd be high up there.

and how would add it?

because kabuto with edo madara, healthy nagato, edo itachi etc. > hashirama. also > ems madara. and the list goes on.

how would you add that? do we just put kabuto above hashirama and under the god tiers? do we limit kabuto to one edo? who does he get as his edo? madara? nagato?

i think you see the problem here

also thats like saying edo itachi is top 5 because he can just seal everyone which would put him above everybody and every edo that isnt god tier.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

and how would add it?

because kabuto with edo madara, healthy nagato, edo itachi etc. > hashirama. also > ems madara. and the list goes on.

how would you add that? do we just put kabuto above hashirama and under the god tiers? do we limit kabuto to one edo? who does he get as his edo? madara? nagato?

i think you see the problem here

also thats like saying edo itachi is top 5 because he can just seal everyone which would put him above everybody and every edo that isnt god tier.

You're complicating it. Kabuto get's his army- that's all there is to it, like how people naturally don't include Hashirama as part of Oro's power- Madara and Itachi have means to break the jutsu and thus cannot be used by manga standards. Yes Kabuto with this entire army is just above Hashirama level on a top 10 list. And just below current Sasuke/Naruto & Obito.

If people want to make their own conditions on ET for the sake of entertaining balanced VS threads then go ahead but for a genuine no-restrictions Top 10 you get what the manga gives you.

 

[ShiroT]

You're complicating it. Kabuto get's his army- that's all there is to it, like how people naturally don't include Hashirama as part of Oro's power- Madara and Itachi have means to break the jutsu and thus cannot be used by manga standards. Yes Kabuto with this entire army is just above Hashirama level on a top 10 list. And just below current Sasuke/Naruto & Obito.

If people want to make their own conditions on ET for the sake of entertaining balanced VS threads then go ahead but for a genuine no-restrictions Top 10 you get what the manga gives you.

then danzo ka's kabuto forcing him to be under his control and if he controls kabuto he controls his army. so now danzo is top 5 or even > hashirama. edo's arent balanced and thats why they are not included

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

then danzo ka's kabuto forcing him to be under his control and if he controls kabuto he controls his army. so now danzo is top 5 or even > hashirama. edo's arent balanced and thats why they are not included

That depends entirely on what your definition of 'balance' is.