Why Edo Tensei should be counted in Top 10s.

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That depends entirely on what your definition of 'balance' is.

in a fight a edo is prep time because that would be using a jutsu that you cant use on the spot. that would mean we would have to give kabuto a fair edo for the fight otherwise he just picks anybody he already summoned. we also have to pick how many edos. i dont count it becuase it requires
A) prep time because you have to use it before the fight or
B) already having someone with you to sacrifice for edo which means it was never a 1v1 but a 2v1 or 3v1

also as i explained danzo > kabuto, hashirama, ems madara, orochimaru
 

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in a fight a edo is prep time because that would be using a jutsu that you cant use on the spot. that would mean we would have to give kabuto a fair edo for the fight otherwise he just picks anybody he already summoned. we also have to pick how many edos. i dont count it becuase it requires
A) prep time because you have to use it before the fight or
B) already having someone with you to sacrifice for edo which means it was never a 1v1 but a 2v1 or 3v1

also as i explained danzo > kabuto, hashirama, ems madara, orochimaru

If you can post a smart and accurate explanation to back up why Danzo with that ability can defeat somebody then in an absolutely unadulterated and accurate Top 10 that's viable. It's just a manga and the amount of imaginary conditions everybody puts on characters is insane. I remember why Guy's 8 Gates can't be counted or why Amateresu can/can't kill everything.

There's a place for restrictions and that's in censored lists or VS matches (because they're for entertainment, not trying to be factual)
 

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If you can post a smart and accurate explanation to back up why Danzo with that ability can defeat somebody then in an absolutely unadulterated and accurate Top 10 that's viable. It's just a manga and the amount of imaginary conditions everybody puts on characters is insane. I remember why Guy's 8 Gates can't be counted or why Amateresu can/can't kill everything.

There's a place for restrictions and that's in censored lists or VS matches (because they're for entertainment, not trying to be factual)

ka as the manga stated can place anyone under a genjutsu without them knowing and it requires no eye contact. by that definition kabuto would be under it, hashirama, itachi, nagato, etc. danzo is now top 4 or 5. i dont include it because i've never seen it in action.

edo tensei is a prep jutsu like i said and wouldnt be fair in a spontaneous fight. thats like giving jirairy sage mode at the beginning of a fight because you know he wont be able to use it during the fight. but edo tensei is a HUGE x factor. how many edo's does he get? who does he get?

and since i only do vs where each individual meets each other instead of one prepping for it, edo tensei would never work out.
 

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I don't count it, never will. Because it's making other ninja who could also be considered top tier fight. If orochimaru is top 10 because of ET, that means we must remove Minato, Tobirama and Hiruzen as candidates since they're orochimaru's jutsu right?

Plus the jutsu makes other ninja fight against their will, they don't do it voluntarily. Pits all just burrowed power, not the users. It's all just grave robbing in the end anyway.
 

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Tobirama does not need ET to be top 10 if u exclude sage family

only fodders need ET to be considered very strong. if u need to bring other strong ninja back to life to fight for u then u dont need to be in any list besides "biggest ***** list"

Godking Tobirama did not invent this jutsu for fodders to abuse.
 

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But Orochimaru with ET is practically a demigod.
 

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Tobirama does not need ET to be top 10 if u exclude sage family

only fodders need ET to be considered very strong. if u need to bring other strong ninja back to life to fight for u then u dont need to be in any list besides "biggest ***** list"

Godking Tobirama did not invent this jutsu for fodders to abuse.

And yet those fodder perfected it.

Where is your precious Tobirama now? Oh yeah, a servant for a fodder. looooooooooooool.
 
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