[Question] Why doesn't Narutobase..

[Belserion]

It's bullying to not want any interaction with an individual? It's not bullying. It doesn't matter. You're basically just ignoring them completely. You're not censoring them, you're censoring yourself from them, avoiding them. In real life you don't have this option. If they kept following you and bothering you you would get the police involved for harassment, wich is worse. So yeah.

Besides, In the long run it might actually turn out being a good thing, because people will think twice before saying stupid shit knowing that there is a chance that person could block them, and it might actually prevent a lot of toxicity and flaming from happening in the first place. Furthermore, prevent rule breaking.

Lol this. 100% this. Just ignore drecker this guy would always disagree with the majority to feel special xd

 

[Zise]

You are all talking about a block function. But nobody is mentioning how they think something like that should work.

Would blocking someone just stop them from participating in threads you have made? This option would give it a one way road for a bully to make a hate thread on you and you wouldnt be able to see it as s/he could also block you. Sure the ignore function would also cause this but atleast then it would be your choice, the thread would have been made either way.

Would it prevent them to see any post you have posted? This would potentially cause the biggest confusion in a discussion, where several people have blocked eachother and can't see the responses.

Would it prevent them to participate in any thread you have posted in? Well I believe this would be the best tool to bully someone. Just hurry and post in every thread you know the person would enjoy.

So with that said I'm not really certain what you guys are asking for since we already have the option to ignore others and the option to limit your profile to friends. Cause implementing a block of any sort would most likely just cause people to block others that doesn't agree with them, just making discussions futile.. and letting the circlejerk commence.

 

[Glad Of War]

You are all talking about a block function. But nobody is mentioning how they think something like that should work.

Would blocking someone just stop them from participating in threads you have made? This option would give it a one way road for a bully to make a hate thread on you and you wouldnt be able to see it as s/he could also block you. Sure the ignore function would also cause this but atleast then it would be your choice, the thread would have been made either way.

Would it prevent them to see any post you have posted? This would potentially cause the biggest confusion in a discussion, where several people have blocked eachother and can't see the responses.

Would it prevent them to participate in any thread you have posted in? Well I believe this would be the best tool to bully someone. Just hurry and post in every thread you know the person would enjoy.

So with that said I'm not really certain what you guys are asking for since we already have the option to ignore others and the option to limit your profile to friends. Cause implementing a block of any sort would most likely just cause people to block others that doesn't agree with them, just making discussions futile.. and letting the circlejerk commence.

I'm pretty certain the consequences of not having the blocking button over-weigh the point you've made, despite the fact you're not entirely wrong. Specifically, if I had to face someone who constantly attacks me or makes comment that brings a stupefied feeling, my next move would be to leave the place, in this case, the site. A member(s) tendency to stay on a community is usually reached with the right conditions, and members constantly attacking others wouldn't make the community conducive.

About your point, I think if the case arises when someone creates a hate thread about a member he/she blocked, a moderator can work his/her usual magic, that is, deleting the thread. It's practically viewing the problem with the same perspective as character bashing. Furthermore, circle-jerking, while intolerable most likely won't lead to conflict, which should be a favorable outcome towards the goal of this site, than people leaving.

 

[Zise]

I'm pretty certain the consequences of not having the blocking button over-weigh the point you've made, despite the fact you're not entirely wrong. Specifically, if I had to face someone who constantly attacks me or makes comment that brings a stupefied feeling, my next move would be to leave the place, in this case, the site. A member(s) tendency to stay on a community is usually reached with the right conditions, and members constantly attacking others wouldn't make the community conducive.

About your point, I think if the case arises when someone creates a hate thread about a member he/she blocked, a moderator can work his/her usual magic, that is, deleting the thread. It's practically viewing the problem with the same perspective as character bashing. Furthermore, circle-jerking, while intolerable most likely won't lead to conflict, which should be a favorable outcome towards the goal of this site, than people leaving.

I listed the three ways I could imagine a block button working, all those three ways are terrible ideas as it promotes malice rather than helping anyone. So the whole point of my post was to get some clarity in how the block function would work. I'm not against having a feature on the site that could make members feel more safe obviously, I'm just unsure how to achieve that without creating more negative consequences and/or limit the freedom of each member.

With that said I believe each member needs to take responsibility and report members that do harass another member in any way or form, as it shouldnt have to come to the point where a member doesn't feel safe or appreciated within the community at all while following the rules of the site. We should not need a block function as that would be to treat the symtom rather than what causes the problem in the first place.

 

[Glad Of War]

I listed the three ways I could imagine a block button working, all those three ways are terrible ideas as it promotes malice rather than helping anyone. So the whole point of my post was to get some clarity in how the block function would work. I'm not against having a feature on the site that could make members feel more safe obviously, I'm just unsure how to achieve that without creating more negative consequences and/or limit the freedom of each member.

With that said I believe each member needs to take responsibility and report members that do harass another member in any way or form, as it shouldnt have to come to the point where a member doesn't feel safe or appreciated within the community at all while following the rules of the site. We should not need a block function as that would be to treat the symtom rather than what causes the problem in the first place.

Like I said, whether it creates conflict or not, (which is unlikely by the way) either of both consequence, or more doesn't over-weigh the prospect of people leaving the site. Obviously the latter isn't always the case. It's however always going to be met in some cases.

In a way, am speaking out of exposure towards the outcome of implementing block option in a community. You have listed some of the possible consequences that happens after the end of implementation, which I asserted in both parts of my response is unlikely. Other than the reasons I pushed forward as a substantive data for my claim, there's also my personal vindication of the option using my experience as a basis. The communities I have been, usually make use of the block option, preventing the possibilities of hostile intentions generated by either side of a party. By now you should realize my stance inclines me to list some of the positive effects of using the option. It reduces heated arguments in the form of ad hominem. More so, it discourages the use of profane words, which is a catalyst for a ban on any site.

In the case of taking responsibility and reporting a member; that's a good idea, but it's not a quick fix. Reporting someone won't stop the offenders from discontinuing his/her attack immediately. There's also the fact the arbitrator won't see the problem as you do. For example, I may get offended because of a remark made by someone. To others, especially those behind the judicial frame, they may have the perspective that there's nothing wrong with the remark. Subjectivity is the main player in this, and it influences both side of the interface, leading to an almost inevitable differentiation in viewpoints. In conclusion, I think the block option is every bit of necessary, which is why almost every online communities uses it.

 

[Zise]

Like I said, whether it creates conflict or not, (which is unlikely by the way) either of both consequence, or more doesn't over-weigh the prospect of people leaving the site. Obviously the latter isn't always the case. It's however always going to be met in some cases.

In a way, am speaking out of exposure towards the outcome of implementing block option in a community. You have listed some of the possible consequences that happens after the end of implementation, which I asserted in both parts of my response is unlikely. Other than the reasons I pushed forward as a substantive data for my claim, there's also my personal vindication of the option using my experience as a basis. The communities I have been, usually make use of the block option, preventing the possibilities of hostile intentions generated by either side of a party. By now you should realize my stance inclines me to list some of the positive effects of using the option. It reduces heated arguments in the form of ad hominem. More so, it discourages the use of profane words, which is a catalyst for a ban on any site.

In the case of taking responsibility and reporting a member; that's a good idea, but it's not a quick fix. Reporting someone won't stop the offenders from discontinuing his/her attack immediately. There's also the fact the arbitrator won't see the problem as you do. For example, I may get offended because of a remark made by someone. To others, especially those behind the judicial frame, they may have the perspective that there's nothing wrong with the remark. Subjectivity is the main player in this, and it influences both side of the interface, leading to an almost inevitable differentiation in viewpoints. In conclusion, I think the block option is every bit of necessary, which is why almost every online communities uses it.

So the question remain... what will the block button do? In what way will it block another person.

As an example, I want to block you so I add you to my block list.. but what does that do?

Would it block you from writing my username?
Would it block you from quoting me?
Would it block you from visiting my profile?
Would it block you from typing in a thread that I created?
Would it block you from a thread where I have posted?

You see I want to know what this block function would entail. Maybe what you have in mind is all or neither of the things I've listed in my posts so far. And aslong as that is so I cannot say if it's something that I would consider adding or not.

 

[Skorm]

Also known as,

I'm talking trash about them, slandering their name behind their back and I don't want them to know. Poor character and pretty selfish.

Privileges need to be ripped from some of you.Always misusing them.

It's not a specific block, you'd block anyone who's not in your friend list or staff member. Well tell me when slander behind your back doesn't happen, lol...

 

[Glad Of War]

So the question remain... what will the block button do? In what way will it block another person.

As an example, I want to block you so I add you to my block list.. but what does that do?

Would it block you from writing my username?
Would it block you from quoting me?
Would it block you from visiting my profile?
Would it block you from typing in a thread that I created?
Would it block you from a thread where I have posted?

You see I want to know what this block function would entail. Maybe what you have in mind is all or neither of the things I've listed in my posts so far. And aslong as that is so I cannot say if it's something that I would consider adding or not.

Well to me, blocking a member should stop them from accessing your profile, seeing your threads or post(s) made on a thread. It should also stop them from quoting your name and having a conversation with you through the visitor message platform, since in essence they won't even see posts of yours or have access to your profile. It should be noted the following effects is also experienced by the members blocked.

Having said that, there should be rules surrounding using the block option, such as a block limit, or consequences of a block misuse. If possible, other rules can be added depending on how it is received.

 

[Fountain]

So the question remain... what will the block button do? In what way will it block another person.

As an example, I want to block you so I add you to my block list.. but what does that do?

Would it block you from writing my username?
Would it block you from quoting me?
Would it block you from visiting my profile?
Would it block you from typing in a thread that I created?
Would it block you from a thread where I have posted?

You see I want to know what this block function would entail. Maybe what you have in mind is all or neither of the things I've listed in my posts so far. And aslong as that is so I cannot say if it's something that I would consider adding or not.

Hypothetically, what could happen is very simple. You block someone and it would be both as if that person blocked you and you blocked them. You won't see their posts and they won't see yours. It wouldn't stop them from going on your thread or interacting with other people but they wouldn't be able to see you.

And if it didn't go well it could always be reverted. Assuming it was possible of course, i don't know anything about coding lol

 

[Animegoin]

I listed the three ways I could imagine a block button working, all those three ways are terrible ideas as it promotes malice rather than helping anyone. So the whole point of my post was to get some clarity in how the block function would work. I'm not against having a feature on the site that could make members feel more safe obviously, I'm just unsure how to achieve that without creating more negative consequences and/or limit the freedom of each member.

With that said I believe each member needs to take responsibility and report members that do harass another member in any way or form, as it shouldnt have to come to the point where a member doesn't feel safe or appreciated within the community at all while following the rules of the site. We should not need a block function as that would be to treat the symtom rather than what causes the problem in the first place.

I agree with this option.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

So the question remain... what will the block button do? In what way will it block another person.

As an example, I want to block you so I add you to my block list.. but what does that do?

Would it block you from writing my username?
Would it block you from quoting me?
Would it block you from visiting my profile?
Would it block you from typing in a thread that I created?
Would it block you from a thread where I have posted?

You see I want to know what this block function would entail. Maybe what you have in mind is all or neither of the things I've listed in my posts so far. And aslong as that is so I cannot say if it's something that I would consider adding or not.

I think providing a set of options(like check boxes) when member A adds member B to the ignorelist.

Options like the ones below (if possible ofc):

- Block member from replying to your comments (Or simply hide their replies instead of blocking)
- Block member from reading/posting VMs
- Block member from sending you PMs
- Block member from viewing your profile

Most people add others to the ignorelist to avoid reading posts which they think as complete nonsense from certain members and they don't want these members to reply back to them either by any means. Providing them the options will give them the flexibility to choose to what extent they want to block a member.

 

[Jinrou]

Shouldn't get this serious though.. You just need to ignore the person completely and they would just go away. The ignore list feature isn't even needed.

 

[Zise]

Well to me, blocking a member should stop them from accessing your profile, seeing your threads or post(s) made on a thread. It should also stop them from quoting your name and having a conversation with you through the visitor message platform, since in essence they won't even see posts of yours or have access to your profile. It should be noted the following effects is also experienced by the members blocked.

Having said that, there should be rules surrounding using the block option, such as a block limit, or consequences of a block misuse. If possible, other rules can be added depending on how it is received.

The only thing that I see could be useful is the privilege to block someone from viewing your profile rather than only blocking them from writing on your VM wall (which you can already do to some degree by allowing only friends).

The not being able to quote the name will be as efficient as the censorship on certain words which we all know is pretty much useless as anyone can just bypass it. Blocking someone to not be able to see your posts that is a tool that would be misused and abused as people would indeed just block you and write whatever they want about you and you wouldnt even have the ability to report the post which is a more serious problem, atleast now with the ignore you make that choice on your own. And blocking someone would not stop them from getting on an alt account either. As you might have seen not even IP bans or banning a user from the site is not effective enough sometimes.

With that said I'll take it into consideration and see what existing settings or plugins that can be installed for privacy on profiles.

EDIT: I've already looked into it and if you go to your "user cp -> profile privacy" you can already change who can view your profile info, members on your ignore list can only view it if you have set the fields to "everyone". This should take care of all your needs as the ignore function will then serve as a block.