Why does Water conduct Electricity in Naruto?

[UnknownJin]

Why?
In kishi's mind it's not H2O but water with minerals, like rain, like the one you drink...just that
Even humans are made of water and not only by H2O

WTF BROTHER TELL THAT MOTHER ****ER HAHAHA

 

[Gabby-chan]

Lmao. These comments. Give me a second, i'm busy.

 

[UnknownJin]

Lmao. These comments. Give me a second, i'm busy.

then take a second... cause i need one too...or more haha

About the thread... dont mess with the water and electricity...

 

[YowYan]

Decent threads with substance are rare these days. This is one of them.

 

[BlacLord™]

Even distilled water does. Pure Water ionizes (albeit weakly). Also, if the electricity is strong enough, it'll induce ionization (creating even more ions)

I'm trying to keep this straightforward for Gabby. We don't want to ionize her brain fluid any more than it already seems to be.

 

[dark legion]

Hmm Itachi solos ?

 

[Gabby-chan]

afaik pure water self-ionizes into ions, which do conduct electricity

The self-ionization of water is a conditional process, to my understanding. It doesn't randomly occur.

False, water doesn't conduct electricity only the ions within it. So unless the water is going to be absolutely pure its conducting electricity.

That is literally what I was saying in the OP.

Also if you truly believed only salt water conducts electricity go throw a toaster in your bathwater :lol

I didn't say only salt water conducts electricity. Here this post explains it better

Spoiler

Pure water, i.e. distilled water, doesn't conduct electricity but the everyday water like the stuff coming out of your tap, rain or what makes up seas and oceans does because of impurities like salt, calcium etc. They conduct electricity because essentially, they are charged.

Stop coming at me like that, fam

Too much chemistry i got an F

Should have hit the books :nefer:

Well, the science is not bad in this thread.

Anyhow, Kishimoto probably wanted to show it as being realistic, I suppose?

based on the fundamentals of water discussed in the OP, there is nothing at all realistic about Kishimoto's application of water in Naruto.

Pure water, i.e. distilled water, doesn't conduct electricity but the everyday water like the stuff coming out of your tap, rain or what makes up seas and oceans does because of impurities like salt, calcium etc. They conduct electricity because essentially, they are charged.

That's basically what I am saying in the OP. This makes it justifiable that pre-conceived water should be able to conduct electricity in Naruto. But pure water conjured from raw chakra, I don't think so.

Why?
In kishi's mind it's not H2O but water with minerals, like rain, like the one you drink...just that
Even humans are made of water and not only by H2O

Well then Kishimoto is, by definition, delusional.

And where do you get the impression that water formed with raw chakra is pure?

Coming from the fact that elements crafted from raw chakra are not created with any form of impurities, unless it's a technique that specifically gives the element an impurity. Like a poison water technique or something. Other than that, when a basic element is created with raw chakra, the element is in it's purest form.

It clearly states Mei had the assistance of A to used said jutsu

You're missing the point. Mei isn't manipulating any form of pre-existing water. Pre-existing water is more likely to have minerals inside of it that help the water conduct electricity. But water made from raw chakra has no impurities like salt or other minerals that create ions for electricity to conduct. It's completely impossible for Ay's electricity to be able to conduct through her created water.

 

[shelke]

based on the fundamentals of water discussed in the OP, there is nothing at all realistic about Kishimoto's application of water in Naruto.

We don't know what kind of water the chakra kneading imitates. Ninjutsu is an imitation of Nature, apparently. Or it could just be a cyclic thing. It isn't about water being produced realistically at all. But how it works, somewhat, realistically. For instances, when it comes into contact with Katon attacks, it puts them out.

 

[UnknownJin]

Decent threads with substance are rare these days. This is one of them.

My threads are cool

 

[Gabby-chan]

Even distilled water does. Pure Water ionizes (albeit weakly). Also, if the electricity is strong enough, it'll induce ionization (creating even more ions)

When salts are dissolved in water, they separate into different electrically charged atoms called ions. Salt breaks up into positive Na ions and negative Cl ions.
If you place a battery with a negative pole and a positive pole into water, the negative ions will be attracted to the positive pole and the positive ions will be attracted to the negative pole thus creating a closed circuit.

Even if Water self-ionizes, does it do so in away that makes it compatible with electric conductivity? Besides, you said it yourself, weakly. And i'll bet the process of self-ionization occurs slowly, or not instantaneously. Pure Water just being created should not be liable to conduct electricity immediately after its production.

I'm trying to keep this straightforward for Gabby. We don't want to ionize her brain fluid any more than it already seems to be.

Is this sexual harassment? Are you sexually harassing me!? EXCUSE ME :WHAT: THIS MAN IS SEXUALLY HARASSING ME! I asked him a simple question and he told me a straight forward answer. That is sexual harassment!

 

[shelke]

Brain is the largest ***-organ. BlacLord's reference to fluids then ... well, he was asking for trouble.

 

[BlacLord™]

Brain is the largest ***-organ. BlacLord's reference to fluids then ... well, he was asking for trouble.

Silly me, I'm just a foxy funky fetish floozy at heart. <3

 

[shelke]

Silly me, I'm just a foxy funky fetish floozy at heart. <3

That was the only thing I could think of when she screamed (well, she did use Capslock) sexual harassment after reading your brain fluids comments.

 

[Gabby-chan]

foxy funky fetish floozy

_@:

 

[Gabby-chan]

That was the only thing I could think of when she screamed (well, she did use Capslock) sexual harassment after reading your brain fluids comments.

Are you also sexually harassing me? This man is sexually harassing me! He told me his name was Hugh Mungus.

 

[BlacLord™]

Shelke has now made a postlapsarian-esque fall into lust too.

Join our cult yeh big floozeh.

 

[shelke]

Shelke has now made a postlapsarian-esque fall into lust too.

Join our cult yeh big floozeh.

It's just the cold wind from my window and the somber night creating the mood. The thing comes and goes.

Are you also sexually harassing me? This man is sexually harassing me! He told me his name was Hugh Mungus.

If I was sexually harassing you I ... But, why would I do that?

 

[Gabby-chan]

If I was sexually harassing you I ... But, why would I do that?

I'm just kidding :|

[video=youtube;RzA4dCT4X0I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I[/video]

 

[BlacLord™]

It's just the cold wind from my window and the somber night creating the mood. The thing comes and goes.

Once you get wet, you never get dry.

Ever.

Well... unless you use a towel.

 

[Quanta]

Pure water ionize even at standard room temperature and pressure. Let's say it isn't conductive enough. Then consider this:
Every time suiton is shown to be conductive it is used together with raiton. Raiton, as we all know, is visible lightning generated from chakra.
Visible lightning necessarily involves ions as light is emitted when they collide or combine with electrons. Ergo raiton+suiton contains ions, most probably enough to make it conductive. Suiton serves as a medium for these energetic ions.