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I was reading a thread a little while ago, and there was this huge debate about canon vs filler, and I agree with the people who said that some of these "canon purists" take Kishimoto way too seriously!
Tell me this. Why does it matter whether or not a piece of media is canon or filler? Purists, I want you to seriously think about this, because here's how I see it:
A plot point's status as canon or filler does not affect its quality or how much I enjoy it, and I don't know about you canon purists out there, but I personally read/watch manga/anime for enjoyment, for the story, for the action, for the slice of life, and whatever else I want to see. Now, if you wish, you may argue that the quality of Kishi's work is better than that of SP or Ikemoto, but that argument actually has nothing to do with the work's status as canon or filler. That more so has to do with Kishi's skill as a writer vs SP's (and Ikemoto's) skills as writers. If the roles were reversed and SP wrote the manga while Kishi did the anime, their writing skill levels wouldn't be any different from how they are now, and so both parties would produce the same quality of work as they do with their actual jobs that they have now.
Does a work's status as filler take away those literary devices (the action, the humor, the slice of life, etc...)? Can you not enjoy something that was written by someone other than the original manga artist?
Some of you people really treat Kishi like a deity.
Honestly, the only situations in which I see the whole canon vs filler issue as being relevant, is in versus match scenarios, or debates about plot points that are portrayed in contradictory manners by the anime and manga. Other than that, I don't see why people like 123fire get crucified for simply enjoying new content.
I have even seen some canon purists contradict themselves entirely.
There was one particular member who said that the anime was bad at the time when the Naruto Gaiden arc was about to start. His reason for saying that it was bad was because we were going into rehash (since this particular person, and presumably the rest of us had already read Gaiden). However, this viewpoint makes no sense for a canon purist because Gaiden was actually canon (and it was written in manga form by Kishimoto himself, not Ikemoto, not SP, but Kishi). Nevertheless, the member still insisted that it was bad since he had already read it.
So what do we basically get from this statement?: We get that this person does not like old rehashed stuff.
Ok, fair enough, but then it was pointed out to him that the anime might add new stuff. Then the guy complained that this would be filler, which was apparently still bad. Ok, what the heck? First you don't like the old stuff. Then you don't like the new stuff.
What do you like then? This is something that I don't get about canon purists. Why do they even bother watching or reading if they hate rehash and won't accept anything new?
Anyway, that is just my two cents on the matter. By the way, this is not to fire shots at the particular member whom I referred to. That was just one prominent example that I remember.
What do you think?
Tell me this. Why does it matter whether or not a piece of media is canon or filler? Purists, I want you to seriously think about this, because here's how I see it:
A plot point's status as canon or filler does not affect its quality or how much I enjoy it, and I don't know about you canon purists out there, but I personally read/watch manga/anime for enjoyment, for the story, for the action, for the slice of life, and whatever else I want to see. Now, if you wish, you may argue that the quality of Kishi's work is better than that of SP or Ikemoto, but that argument actually has nothing to do with the work's status as canon or filler. That more so has to do with Kishi's skill as a writer vs SP's (and Ikemoto's) skills as writers. If the roles were reversed and SP wrote the manga while Kishi did the anime, their writing skill levels wouldn't be any different from how they are now, and so both parties would produce the same quality of work as they do with their actual jobs that they have now.
Does a work's status as filler take away those literary devices (the action, the humor, the slice of life, etc...)? Can you not enjoy something that was written by someone other than the original manga artist?
Some of you people really treat Kishi like a deity.
Honestly, the only situations in which I see the whole canon vs filler issue as being relevant, is in versus match scenarios, or debates about plot points that are portrayed in contradictory manners by the anime and manga. Other than that, I don't see why people like 123fire get crucified for simply enjoying new content.
I have even seen some canon purists contradict themselves entirely.
There was one particular member who said that the anime was bad at the time when the Naruto Gaiden arc was about to start. His reason for saying that it was bad was because we were going into rehash (since this particular person, and presumably the rest of us had already read Gaiden). However, this viewpoint makes no sense for a canon purist because Gaiden was actually canon (and it was written in manga form by Kishimoto himself, not Ikemoto, not SP, but Kishi). Nevertheless, the member still insisted that it was bad since he had already read it.
So what do we basically get from this statement?: We get that this person does not like old rehashed stuff.
Ok, fair enough, but then it was pointed out to him that the anime might add new stuff. Then the guy complained that this would be filler, which was apparently still bad. Ok, what the heck? First you don't like the old stuff. Then you don't like the new stuff.
What do you like then? This is something that I don't get about canon purists. Why do they even bother watching or reading if they hate rehash and won't accept anything new?
Anyway, that is just my two cents on the matter. By the way, this is not to fire shots at the particular member whom I referred to. That was just one prominent example that I remember.
What do you think?
