Why do you not want/be mad if tobi is obito?

[saw2097]

I'm not underrating him, i know he won't pull some BS explanation out of his ass, that's why he can't be Obito, if he were Obito he would need to do that.

Not really, there are plenty of possible explanations. Now many of them will require a great deal of time to explain.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not really, there are plenty of possible explanations. Now many of them will require a great deal of time to explain.

Example?

 

[Takos]

From storytelling point of view, Obito seems to be much better option than Izuna, Kagami or even more so, anyone else.

 

[Edge]

From storytelling point of view, Obito seems to be much better option than Izuna, Kagami or even more so, anyone else.

And you know everything about storytelling do you?

 

[lorul2]

I have seen people say "I don't want tobi" to be obito and "if kishi makes obito be tobi he is a troll"

But I would like to ask why? There are plot holes in all theories apart from Kagami but even if tobi is kagami kishi would still have to explain his life and his connection to madara.

If tobi is izuna kishi will have to explain:

• Why he is not dead when we saw him in his coffin

• How a 90+ year old man is able to do all this (possibly zetsu DNA)

If tobi is obito he would have to explain these quotes:

• "My battle with the 1st" "Hashirama is the man I hated and respected most" "I gave nagato the rinnegan" "I incouraged yahiko" (Possibly because he was posing as madara)

So basically whoever tobi is kishi has some explaining to do and for me this is what's going to be the epic bit about his identity, kishi covering and explaing all the plot holes for whoever tobi is. And who he will connect it to the current characters in the naruto world today.

Anyway the back to my question, if tobi is obito why is kishi a troll? and why would you be mad?

People are stupid!!

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[saw2097]

Here's a new theory that I found and liked. That Tobi is Obito but is being possesed by the Elder Son's spirit. That will reveal where Orochimaru's body stealing trick came from. Obito is still alive but the body has been altered by the Elder Son. That would explain the build up with it being Obito and fill in the plot holes.

The Elder Son is the one behind everything. That actually explains why he refuses to view Naruto as a threat because Naruto is just like his younger brother who he was so jealous of.

My guess is that in the end when Tobi is defeated Obito comes to control his body again but is dying. This gives Kakashi a chance to deal with his past once and for all.

 

[Bloodytaste]

This! Whether it's Obito or not...

Obito's eye is the reason for the Fourth War. And possibly for Naruto's parents' deaths. That's pretty much an important role.

This²

I dont thinks it to obious though~ I wont get mad if he is obito, i wont either get mad if he is not, but for me Obitos just feels right~ xD

 

[Meowazziel]

I have seen people say "I don't want tobi" to be obito and "if kishi makes obito be tobi he is a troll"

But I would like to ask why? There are plot holes in all theories apart from Kagami but even if tobi is kagami kishi would still have to explain his life and his connection to madara.

If tobi is izuna kishi will have to explain:

• Why he is not dead when we saw him in his coffin

• How a 90+ year old man is able to do all this (possibly zetsu DNA)

If tobi is obito he would have to explain these quotes:

• "My battle with the 1st" "Hashirama is the man I hated and respected most" "I gave nagato the rinnegan" "I incouraged yahiko" (Possibly because he was posing as madara)

So basically whoever tobi is kishi has some explaining to do and for me this is what's going to be the epic bit about his identity, kishi covering and explaing all the plot holes for whoever tobi is. And who he will connect it to the current characters in the naruto world today.

Anyway the back to my question, if tobi is obito why is kishi a troll? and why would you be mad?

Izuna, not dead, because revived.
Doesnt have to be 90 years old because he was dead for a while and got to extent lifespan with zetsu goo.

obito wasnt even born yet when madara died so it would just impossible to come up with an explanation for that, unless we introduce time travel.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

I just feel like it would be illogical. There's too many plot holes and even if many are explained away it will still seem farfetched. With that said i have no idea who else he could be. My best guess is Kagami, timeline wise he seems to be a good choice.

Maybe Izuna but if it's izuna we have a lot of problems as well, like the fact that'd he'd have to be like 100 at this point, if not older...

 

[dwest151]

I don't know who's been hanging out with Kishimoto himself but how do any of you know the gap between Obito's death and the time Tobi attacked Konaha

 

[Jack1234]

I'm just going to be happy when he is finally revealed no matter who it is.

 

[NamikazeNagato]

Izuna ... there are NO plot holes whatsoever!

Him surviving all this time? There are really three explanations Kishimoto can give to us.

1. Zetsu - Artificial limbs can be created from him and therefore be used to repair old body parts that die off.

2. Senju DNA - This stuff can make you live longer (It did for Madara who met Nagato).

3. Fushi Tensei - Body switch technique that could explain how Tobi and Orochimaru are connected.

As for motives for eye of the moon plan: Izuna has always been the more peaceful brother, but this mixed in with the fact that his entire clan turned there back on his brother who tried to help them sparked a certain amount of hate within him.

Reasoning for being Izuna is:

Tobi claims that the eyes of Nagato where "his to begin with".

When Tobi tells Sasuke the story of Madara and reaches the part where Madara takes his brother's eyes, his grasp tightens on his arms. Even if he were pretending to be Madara, he wouldn't do that as his position is already fully secured as Madara at that point.

Who else would Madara trust more than his little brother? Why go after some fodder Kagami to make his plans come true or, worse than that, recruit some little ***** kid.

For those who say that Obito and Kagami could be related to Izuna, that still doesn't make sense when Madara could just revive his little brother and have him do it.

But it's whoever Kishi wants it to be ... i'll still be a fan no matter who it is.

 

[aimop95]

Let's just say that there are plot holes, and there are things that need to be explained. By definition, Plot Holes are inconsistencies in storytelling that can only make sense if what was previously established is overwritten by a new event.

Both Kagami and Izuna have little to no plot holes, just things that need explaining. Obito on the other hand, no matter how Kishi spins it, would have to overwrite several things that have already been established.

You're assuming that no new jutsu will be introduced. Which frankly I think will appear in the coming chapters, most noticeably from Tobi.
All plot holes can be filled, it just takes extraordinary writing or god powers. The latter I'm thinking Kishimoto will probably resort to (If Tobi is Obito).

Kishimoto can't just pull some BS explanation out of his ass, which is what he'd have to do if Tobi is Obito.

He doesn't seem to be having a problem doing that, and yet, everything seems to work together.

 

[Trollasaur]

How the hell did Kakashi grow so much? XD

 

[Trollasaur]

I never thought he was actually Madara :\

For a while I thought he was Obito, but in recent chapters I feel that Kishi is making it too obvious that he wants us to THINK it's Obito. Just so he can troll us when he actually reveals Tobi's face.

At the moment I have absolutely no clue who Tobi is, but I think the best bets would be Izuna, or a Zetsu clone of Madara.

What if he wants you to think it's a trick but, it really isn't.

 

[Phoenix Wright]

I would be happy that it's Obito, just to close the whole "Interview" crap that's around here everywhere for once.

 

[RoXii]

Man, I'm going to drop this manga if it's Obito... or I won't drop it, Naruto's my favorite manga.

 

[AngryRock]

But the tobi that went up against minato (3-5 years after obito's death) was not that strong he was just using his basic MS techs turning intangible/absorbing people which at 16 he should be able to use them pretty decently examples itachi 13 and sasuke 16

Itachi was a prodigy and Sasuke got his powers from Itachi.