Why do so many people try to excuse Sasuke's plan to destroy Konoha?

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Trying diplomacy doesn't equal letting people walk all over you. I imagine you must be about 12 or 13, if you honestly believe that revolt is the first solution to civil issues.

Of course not.....

You do realize the problem here?

Fear is a powerful thing. Fear creates control. Fear creates focus. Fear creates insurance. Fear creates drastic measures.

Powerless is a scary thing. Being powerless creates fear. Being powerless creates rebellion. Being powerless cause out of control.

The key to fix all this? Madara told Hashirama that he got it backward. It is families and friends first that comes before the village. Not Village before families and friends.

Village = families and friends

Families and friends = village

If all the previous Hokages had acted like Naruto, try to save one another and not kill, these problems wouldn't had happen.

controlling or killing is not the solution. Conquering the heart and enduring is the key. This is why Naruto is a better Hokage than all the other ones.
 

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They also had no reason to let Itachi slaughter innocent children and Uchihas that were not Shinobis, yet they did.
So Sasuke doing the same thing is only fair. Not just, but fair. Revenge =/= Justice.


Danzo is the one who wanted the massacre to happen not Sandaime{sandaime asked itachi to give him time so he can try to negotiate with uchihas } so the revenge should be on danzo not konoha everyone knows that danzo worked in the dark and did many wrong things{ like giving the anbu list to orochimaru and helped with the attack orichimaru did on konoha during the shounen exam }
I believe sasuke took his revenge the day he killed danzo a
And it’s true that others had a very hard time more than sasuke
Wrong actions shouldn’t be dealt with by other wrong actions
If sasuke loves his brother so much why did he want to destroy what his brother died trying to protect
 
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Yet he is whining over something Sasuke nvr did :sdo:

Wasn't he going blind at the time and had to put everything on hold for EMS? XD

Conspiracy and plotting genocide is bad and you should feel bad. You'd get arrested for being found plotting a murder but openly stating your plan for genocide..Madara and Nagato shouldn't be excused either. I liked edo nagato's attitude tbh. His giant weapon plan was worse than the IT. IT was just slightly more noble though in a sense but we seen how that turned out..
 

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Madara and Nagato's also. Although their goal (IT) was intended to bring peace albeit it was a BS plan.

I'm not trying to justify them, I'm asking why people justify Sasuke's when his goal was 100% selfish and demonize the others while they had a twisted form of altruism! at the very least.
 

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Wasn't he going blind at the time and had to put everything on hold for EMS? XD
Dosen't matter

Conspiracy and plotting genocide is bad and you should feel bad
Lets kill people of Konaha for not feeling bad for Uchiha massacre and completely destroyin small villages like Amegakura for their own greed
Or ohnoki for using Akatsuki
Or Raikage for Kidnapping of Kushina and Hyuga affair :sdo:
 

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I'm not trying to justify them, I'm asking why people justify Sasuke's when his goal was 100% selfish and demonize the others while they had a twisted form of altruism! at the very least.

Yeah I know that. My initial post was on topic.
 

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Coming from Obito fan its hilarious

They also had no reason to let Itachi slaughter innocent children and Uchihas that were not Shinobis, yet they did.
So Sasuke doing the same thing is only fair. Not just, but fair. Revenge =/= Justice.

The better question would be why do people treat Sasuke like he's the devil himself, when the village pretty much did what he wanted to do to them.

My Boy rekt OP and this Thread so damn hard..!!!
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You people get it(also Gobb, but I forgot to quote you, so sorry).
 

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OT: Sasuke had a lot of things taken away from him, but he really went bonkers when he found out the village leaders used his brother, whom he looked up to destroy his own people for a messed up ninja system. Kakashi himself said it, Sasuke is the victim of the current ninja system. I am 100% sure you wouldn't go back to the place where your people are taken away, the people you used to know and love. As for your favourite character Flopbito, he went haywire over someone whom didn't even flinch when she thought he was dead. :lmao: Plus, Sasuke targeted the village not the whole planet.
 
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Trying diplomacy doesn't equal letting people walk all over you. I imagine you must be about 12 or 13, if you honestly believe that revolt is the first solution to civil issues.

Wow, you calling him a 12 or 13 year old is hilarious when you basically insinuated that because of the actions of ONE Uchiha all Uchihas should be blamed lol. "an Uchiha did ultimately attack the village, regardless of affiliation," No it isn't "regardless of affilation" The affiliation is the only thing that matters. You wan't to know who attacked you so you don't blame the wrong people. You can't see the forest for the trees.

I pray to God you never get any political power you're the type of person who's like "oh crap one Muslim blew up a building lets blame all Muslims." or one black guy committed a crime let's keep 24 hour survelience on all black people. Your logic sickens me.

And don't think that just because i'm going hard on you that I somehow approve of Sasuke's actions, I don't dude should be in jail for life.
 
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Dosen't matter


Lets kill people of Konaha for not feeling bad for Uchiha massacre and completely destroyin small villages like Amegakura for their own greed
Or ohnoki for using Akatsuki
Or Raikage for Kidnapping of Kushina and Hyuga affair :sdo:

It does matter because it stopped his rampage and gave him time to think and it's obvious that it doesn't take long for his ideals to change.


I never said the shinobi system wasn't corrupt. Still doesn't excuse the fact that he's off his nut. Kakashi and plenty of others got over their troubles so don't try pull the sympathy card. You love changing the topic bit by bit lel People in Konoha didn't know it was happening btw? Even if they did, it was self defence. Even Itachi saw this and went with the lesser evil of the two choices he had. Danzo was to blame for the small villages bit mainly btw. We see this with Kabuto's backstory & Nagato's. I don't even know where you are going with the raikage bit and Ohnoki... if you're saying to slaughter their villages for their leaders crimes and it'd be ridiculous. Well, then you've just joined my side of the debate. Sasuke wanted to kill everyone in the leaf just for the elders orders. Inb4hedidn'tmeanit.

Don't even bother replying if that's all you got & keep it relevant plox. The topic is Sasuke's sanity :)
 

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Dude no one is defending sasuke for crimes he did
Everyone is disagreeing with crime OP wants to plaster on sasuke becoz he something in rage and anger
 

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Sasuke was a victim of a genocide and his government was on a path to dictatorship. Danzo was Hitler in the making, he had nationalist ideals bordering on racism, his hatred and jealousy was worse than Uchihas but worst of all he was a coward. Sasuke had every right to kill him and the council, they were criminals.
 

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its ok. sasuke didnt go through with it. Lol
 
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Dude no one is defending sasuke for crimes he did
Everyone is disagreeing with crime OP wants to plaster on sasuke becoz he something in rage and anger

This whole thread is either people condemning Sasuke or making excuses for him. What are you talking about? :eek:

Oh and bringing up Obito.

The title of the thread Is Sasuke's plan to destroy Konoha. Danzo's death was totally justified. The way Sasuke did it was also a **** move, however XD Could've been handled much better if he was mentally stable but he wasn't.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I hate when you get so mad, you threaten to slaughter everyone in your hometown. XD
 
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I agree I don't know why people try and justify it because in my opinion I don't think Sasuke's intentions are meant to be justified. I mean, I think Sasuke's plan to destroy Konoha was understandable whether wrong or right since it's expected that someone put in his position could very easily lean towards the way Sasuke went. Nearly everything he valued was stripped from him or he removed himself, leaving him with emptiness and the thoughts of his poor brother's tormenting and heartbreaking life. The only thing he could think of was avenging his brother. He couldn't care less about right or wrong or justice. He just wanted someone, anyone to pay for what his brother went through therefore he looked to Konoha, where the roots laid for all of Itachi's problems and all of his own problems. Inconsiderate as hell, arrogant, merciless, selfish; Sasuke was all of these things and that is undeniable. He was at a time committed to killing thousands of innocent people who appeared to most, completely unrelated to his own issues. No ifs or buts, no way around it. Sasuke was an a**hole. You can't justify it, only understand why it happened. But villain or ally, good guy or bad guy, Sasuke is still a pretty amazing character.

Sasuke fanboys feel that if they admit that Sasuke was out of line when planning to destroy Konoha than they somehow revoke Sasuke's validity as a good character.
 

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I agree I don't know why people try and justify it because in my opinion I don't think Sasuke's intentions are meant to be justified. I mean, I think Sasuke's plan to destroy Konoha was understandable whether wrong or right since it's expected that someone put in his position could very easily lean towards the way Sasuke went. Nearly everything he valued was stripped from him or he removed himself, leaving him with emptiness and the thoughts of his poor brother's tormenting and heartbreaking life. The only thing he could think of was avenging his brother. He couldn't care less about right or wrong or justice. He just wanted someone, anyone to pay for what his brother went through therefore he looked to Konoha, where the roots laid for all of Itachi's problems and all of his own problems. Inconsiderate as hell, arrogant, merciless, selfish; Sasuke was all of these things and that is undeniable. He was at a time committed to killing thousands of innocent people who appeared to most, completely unrelated to his own issues. No ifs or buts, no way around it. Sasuke was an a**hole. You can't justify it, only understand why it happened. But villain or ally, good guy or bad guy, Sasuke is still a pretty amazing character.

Sasuke fanboys feel that if they admit that Sasuke was out of line when planning to destroy Konoha than they somehow revoke Sasuke's validity as a good character.

And then the bash Obito, im guessing because, since im an Obito fan, they expect I'll try to justify the Nine Tails attack and the War like they try to do with Sasuke.
 

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And then the bash Obito, im guessing because, since im an Obito fan, they expect I'll try to justify the Nine Tails attack and the War like they try to do with Sasuke.

It's primary school mentality, "you are a fan of that other character so don't talk about this character bwaaaah", as if you can't be a fan of a character who happens to a villian without agreeing to everything he does.

never saw an orochimaru fan say experimenting on babies is okay
 

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Sasuke was a victim of a genocide and his government was on a path to dictatorship. Danzo was Hitler in the making, he had nationalist ideals bordering on racism, his hatred and jealousy was worse than Uchihas but worst of all he was a coward. Sasuke had every right to kill him and the council, they were criminals.

It's very disturbing to me you would even compare Danzo to Hitlar....
 
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