Why do SB downright ignore sasuke getting free powerups but accuse other characters.

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It doesn't because at this point:

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The Kingdom didn't belong to anyone. It was Minato's choice to give the Kyuubi to Naruto by sealing it inside him.​
As it is a choice (also a practice I believe) for a king to choose his son to be the heir to his rule (a king also would choose between his son's who rules if they were born at the same time. I've read somewhere that some kings would choose which son to continue their birthright). At the time, the Uzumaki's were known for their ability to contain Bjiuu which why Kushina was born. It's the same instance when a son of a king is born but is not made a king right away but when the actual king passes
 

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As it is a choose (also a practice I believe) for a king to choose his son to be the heir to his rule. At the time, the Uzumaki's were known for their ability to contain Bjiuu which why Kushina was born. It's the same instance when a son of a king is born but is not made a king right away but when the actual king passes
@Bold: The Kyuubi never belonged to Minato he wasn't an Uzumaki.
 

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As it is a choice (also a practice I believe) for a king to choose his son to be the heir to his rule (a king also would choose between his son's who rules if they were born at the same time. I've read somewhere that some kings would choose which son to continue their birthright). At the time, the Uzumaki's were known for their ability to contain Bjiuu which why Kushina was born. It's the same instance when a son of a king is born but is not made a king right away but when the actual king passes
Funny how Naruto fans think bijuu as his private property while naruto doesn't :lol
 

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Can a queen choose an heir the King's birthright?
Minato can't be the equivalent of a King because the Kyuubi was never his. When the Kyuubi was extracted from Kushina it belonged to no one. Minato can't give Naruto a birthright that was never his just like someone who is not a King and has no Kingdom cannot give a kingdom which he never had as a birthright to his son.
 

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You should choose your wording better because Kurama was Madara's private property after being subdued to his Sharigan
Kurama was madara's summon and bijuu totally under his Genjutsu influence :lol He still had contract after being revived.

You are comparing two of them :lol Madara wasn't playing buddy buddy or begging/asking kurama for chakra.Talking to him in his mind palace.Fighting over kurama's chakra with kurama
 

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Minato can't be the equivalent of a King because the Kyuubi was never his. When the Kyuubi was extracted from Kushina it belonged to no one. Minato can't give Naruto a birthright that was never his just like someone who is not a King and has no Kingdom cannot give a kingdom which he never had as a birthright to his son.​
Seems you have swayed me just a little bit. This is how I'm looking at it, since Uzumaki at the time had rule of Kurama (as he was used as a tool as stated in the manga), while not being Kushina's birthright, she was currently in possession of something that had been a tradition with the Uzumaki since they had the capabilities to contain Kurama. She lost what she had previously owned as a tool and Minato passed that on to her (their son). I guess since we're looking at Kurama as a living being instead of a tool (at the time, what he was established to be) and the definition of birthright (a right that you have because you were born into a particular position, family, place) is why I am looking at it the way I am



Kurama was madara's summon and bijuu totally under his Genjutsu influence :lol He still had contract after being revived.

You are comparing two of them :lol Madara wasn't playing buddy buddy or begging/asking kurama for chakra.Talking to him in his mind palace.Fighting over kurama's chakra with kurama
All I said is for you to watch your wording. How are you inferring that I am comparing the two when I never said anything about them being relatable? :|
 

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Seems you have swayed me just a little bit. This is how I'm looking at it, since Uzumaki at the time had rule of Kurama (as he was used as a tool as stated in the manga), while not being Kushina's birthright, she was currently in possession of something that had been a tradition with the Uzumaki since they had the capabilities to contain Kurama. She lost what she had previously owned as a tool and Minato passed that on to her (their son). I guess since we're looking at Kurama as a living being instead of a tool (at the time, what he was established to be) and the definition of birthright (a right that you have because you were born into a particular position, family, place) is why I am looking at it the way I am
When she lost the Kyuubi it was no longer hers because she lost it, it was an independent living being. Minato sealed it into Naruto because that was the most feasible option. Very different from Kushina consciously passing Kurama on to Naruto at birth and using Minato as a method to do so. Fact is when Naruto was born, The Kyuubi wasn't his or his to claim it was Kushina's and when she lost it belonged to no one.
 

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When she lost the Kyuubi it was no longer hers because she lost it, it was an independent living being. Minato sealed it into Naruto because that was the most feasible option. Very different from Kushina consciously passing Kurama on to Naruto at birth and using Minato as a method to do so. Fact is when Naruto was born, The Kyuubi wasn't his or his to claim it was Kushina's and when she lost it belonged to no one.​
What's really preventing me from changing my mind is the definitions, as well as what the Leaf designating Kurama to be at the time (he was still a tool as well considering the fact the Obito placed him under genjutsu so he wasn't even aware of his own conscience). It was decided that Kurama was nothing more than just a tool/property. Much like how slaves were just property when they were actual being and it was legal.

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birthright
Pronunciation: /ˈbərTHˌrīt/
NOUN

1A particular right of possession or privilege one has from birth, especially as an eldest child.

This is taken from the oxford dictionary
 
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What's really preventing me from changing my mind is the definitions, as well as what the Leaf designated Kurama to be at the time (he was still a tool as well considering the fact the Obito placed him under genjutsu so he wasn't even aware of his own conscience). It was decided that Kurama was nothing more than just a tool/property. Much like how slaves were just property when they were actual being and it was legal.

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birthright
Pronunciation: /ˈbərTHˌrīt/
NOUN

1A particular right of possession or privilege one has from birth, especially as an eldest child.

This is taken from the oxford dictionary
Except that realistically; just like Slaves, Kurama wasn't just property or a tool and before the Kyuubi was sealed into Naruto it was roaming as a free agent and was being possessed by no one or no clan. So the definition of birthright doesn't apply.
 
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Except that realistically; just like Slaves, Kurama wasn't just property or a tool and before the Kyuubi was sealed into Naruto it was roaming as a free agent and was being possessed by no one or no clan. So the definition of birthright doesn't apply.​
What is a privilege?
 

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All I said is for you to watch your wording. How are you inferring that I am comparing the two when I never said anything about them being relatable? :|
My wording were Fine and unlike Naruto madara does consider them private property :lol So dunno why you are bringing hom here
Funny how Naruto fans think bijuu as his private property while naruto doesn't :lol
 
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