Why do ppl hate sasuke?
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zumorikato
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I really cant see how a lot of people can argue and think that it is justifiable for Sasuke's actions to do all the of the things that he have done, just because of what happened with his clan. You cant go on revenge or want to murder people, just because some one/few where murdered close to you. You will only cause the people close to them to murder others as well??? Stupid is it not. I really dont understand the logic. And then you still get those people that state "Wouldnt you feel the same if it happened to your family, wouldnt you do the same"? Well think about it, by killing the murderer, is not going to bring back any one, your just going to sink to the same level of intelligence as the murderer, it makes you nothing better than him. Yes you are going to feel remorse, and yes you are going to hate the person, but nothing, let me repeat it, so that it can sink in. NOTHING justifies "KILLING FOR REVENGE" the only part where I would say it is justifiable to kill is to protect your loved ones from immediate harm or potential murder. Killing for revenge is wrong, and if you beg to differ, then its a clash of moral values, one argument which im not willing to go into know.
I also dont see how a lot of people can even try to compare Naruto's actions to Sasuke. If you look at the situation closely, Naruto wanted to get rid of Pain, not just because of the J man's death but mostly to protect the village, by staying in the village it would have only lured pain to cause more destruction in the village, just guess what would happen if Naruto lost control and the nine tails popped out in the middle of Konoha, exciting is it not. ; )
Sorry to disagree with you Sasuke Uzumaki, but you ask the question of "How can someone who is 12 be able to have feelings after 4 years of being left alone? "
I wont say easy but, How did Naruto have feelings after 12 years of being left alone? Just a question, but dont you think Naruto wonders what happened to his Mother? Why did she abandon him? Dont you think that its more awful for a child to be abandoned/not wanted by his own flesh and blood? And Sasuke was just as alone as Naruto, dont you think, I would say Naruto was worse off, because people hated him, people didnt hate Sasuke????
I dont hate Sasuke, I just dont like the paths and choices that he chose in live. You are judged by others according to your actions and words. And I quote "he did what he had to... konoha wasn't helping in achieving his goals... " That is exactly how Sasuke thinks, its always about him, his goals, his revenge, his clans superior bloodline. And for that I call him self-centred, which is why I woudlnt want to mingle with him. Where as Naruto thinks more of the village than of himself.
I also dont see how a lot of people can even try to compare Naruto's actions to Sasuke. If you look at the situation closely, Naruto wanted to get rid of Pain, not just because of the J man's death but mostly to protect the village, by staying in the village it would have only lured pain to cause more destruction in the village, just guess what would happen if Naruto lost control and the nine tails popped out in the middle of Konoha, exciting is it not. ; )
Sorry to disagree with you Sasuke Uzumaki, but you ask the question of "How can someone who is 12 be able to have feelings after 4 years of being left alone? "
I wont say easy but, How did Naruto have feelings after 12 years of being left alone? Just a question, but dont you think Naruto wonders what happened to his Mother? Why did she abandon him? Dont you think that its more awful for a child to be abandoned/not wanted by his own flesh and blood? And Sasuke was just as alone as Naruto, dont you think, I would say Naruto was worse off, because people hated him, people didnt hate Sasuke????
I dont hate Sasuke, I just dont like the paths and choices that he chose in live. You are judged by others according to your actions and words. And I quote "he did what he had to... konoha wasn't helping in achieving his goals... " That is exactly how Sasuke thinks, its always about him, his goals, his revenge, his clans superior bloodline. And for that I call him self-centred, which is why I woudlnt want to mingle with him. Where as Naruto thinks more of the village than of himself.
u all claim that sasuke is horribly wrong for killing someone for revenge... didn't shikamaru just kill someone for revenge of asuma? but he's a complete hero to everyone
and if someone is holding u back from ur goals then why should u stay with that person... the difference for naruto is that no one ever holds him back from his dreams because they involve konoha which i'm not saying is bad but comparing sasuke's goals to naruto's is not a good idea
plus konoha hides the truth way too much why should he stay there?
and ur forgetting that Itachi wanted sasuke to kill him... he literally told him to get stronger so that he could kill him
and are u telling me that if someone just came in and killed someone ur close to at random u wouldn't even care u'd just forgive them?
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Sasuke Uzumaki
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No one is saying he likes Sasuke's choices 100%, just that we can undestand him. And that in real life most people's reactions would have resembled more Sasuke's than Naruto's, given the situation.
Naruto is not a realistic character (though I love him) if you tell me. He is like an angel, really, too good. But Naruto had never been acknowledged by anyone until he was 12, while Sasuke had a loving and caring mother. He had everything and lost it. Loosing what you had makes you dark. And I'm not sure what Naruto thinks of more, himself or Konoha. He wants to be awesome to be ackonwleged, though he's nicer. Sasuke does not show feelings, we really don't know if he cares about anyone. He did care about Team 7, he said he needed to "cut bonds" (thus, he had them) to achieve his goals. Just took the decision as he felt he had the DUTY to avenge his clan. (it was not an amusement).
That's a good point, and they will love Naruto more once he avenges Jiraiya.
How can Itachi, who had to make a hard decision but took a wrong decision that turned his little brother mad, be now considered a saint? Itachi did what he could, but he tortured his little brother, he made his life misserable. Why couldn't he find another way to make Sasuke stronger.
In real life most people do not forgive. This is how most wars start: I say you attacked me, I pay you back.
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Sasuke Uzumaki
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Emo - gay. Even if that was true, he's strong and he's not bad. He already had the chance to kill Naruto 3 times and did not, made up his mind when he was about to do it.
Orochimaru was the grown-up guy. In any case, he is the one to blame and to be called gay. Plus he had poisoned Sasuke with the seal.
Come on, how many of you really think in girls at 12? Only half.
He's terribly jealous of Naruto... a true sign that he's like a brother to him.
I'm not saying that they will necessarily end up as friends, but deep inside that's how he feels.
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"u all claim that sasuke is horribly wrong for killing someone for revenge... didn't shikamaru just kill someone for revenge of asuma? but he's a complete hero to everyone"
See thats the problem, your trying to compare Sasuke's action to other, odd one out, children, need I go on, action's. If you miss read the thread heading, it actually says why do ppl hate Sasuke, not why do people love him, or what justifies Sasukes action. Dont you think that Kakashi is a bit more mature, have a bit more life experience, a bit more wisdom when he told Sasuke not to live for revenge, because he will regret it, or did you miss that part of the manga? (Im sorry Im being very rude now, just want to show you that you cant go around just comparing 1 persons action with another person and say because he did it I can do it to)
"No one is saying he likes Sasuke's choices 100%, just that we can undestand him. And that in real life most people's reactions would have resembled more Sasuke's than Naruto's, given the situation."
Ok, so you also agree that Sasuke doesnt make 100% the correct choises. Well that makes him human, but because of the choices it can class him to the major society as a "bad" human, dont you agree, just my opinion? And I dont agree with you that most peoples actions in real life would have resembled Sasukes action, that is just your opinion.
"That's a good point, and they will love Naruto more once he avenges Jiraiya."
I like how you can see the negativity in some situations, by rephrasing what you said, you could have rather said.
That's a good point, and they will love Naruto more once he prevents Pain from totally annihilating Konoha.
If I can plot out to you my opinion regarding the moral story line of how I see Naruto, it is to show 2 people with more or less the same history (You cant have the exact same past as someone, but at least curtain similarities) and how the choices they make influence their future and their relationships, and to show you that different choices leads to different paths, it happens over, and over, and over in the manga. And I think that is the story that Kishi is trying to tell us.
Thanx for the guy that started this thread, nice topic.
See thats the problem, your trying to compare Sasuke's action to other, odd one out, children, need I go on, action's. If you miss read the thread heading, it actually says why do ppl hate Sasuke, not why do people love him, or what justifies Sasukes action. Dont you think that Kakashi is a bit more mature, have a bit more life experience, a bit more wisdom when he told Sasuke not to live for revenge, because he will regret it, or did you miss that part of the manga? (Im sorry Im being very rude now, just want to show you that you cant go around just comparing 1 persons action with another person and say because he did it I can do it to)
"No one is saying he likes Sasuke's choices 100%, just that we can undestand him. And that in real life most people's reactions would have resembled more Sasuke's than Naruto's, given the situation."
Ok, so you also agree that Sasuke doesnt make 100% the correct choises. Well that makes him human, but because of the choices it can class him to the major society as a "bad" human, dont you agree, just my opinion? And I dont agree with you that most peoples actions in real life would have resembled Sasukes action, that is just your opinion.
"That's a good point, and they will love Naruto more once he avenges Jiraiya."
I like how you can see the negativity in some situations, by rephrasing what you said, you could have rather said.
That's a good point, and they will love Naruto more once he prevents Pain from totally annihilating Konoha.
If I can plot out to you my opinion regarding the moral story line of how I see Naruto, it is to show 2 people with more or less the same history (You cant have the exact same past as someone, but at least curtain similarities) and how the choices they make influence their future and their relationships, and to show you that different choices leads to different paths, it happens over, and over, and over in the manga. And I think that is the story that Kishi is trying to tell us.
Thanx for the guy that started this thread, nice topic.
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i hate saskue cause with a ll his jutsu he has not killed anyone
he did beat naruto but naruto chose to aim @ saskues headband
NAruto has killed all 4 bosses from the shippuden movies
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he did beat naruto but naruto chose to aim @ saskues headband
NAruto has killed all 4 bosses from the shippuden movies
& many more
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I dont hate Sasuke I do hate the fact that Naruto is relentless and dead set on bringing him back. I am hoping against hope that he has a relevation and says to h*ll with Sasuke. He should be dead set on killing him or atleast see him as an enemy. Chouji, Neji, Kiba etc almost died because of him. I think it will show growth in Naruto if he is able to bury Sasuke and see him as what he is a gay azz Emo that sought revenge and realize he cant help him or bring him back.
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I am neutral about sasuke
I dislike that he thinks he's better than every one
If naruto and sasuke fought it would end in a tie
without using nine tail fox or curse mark/sharingan
both have an side effect
I dislike that sasuke is so emo
when the final battle before shippuden
he said something like this "you have no idea what it feels like to lost all the bonds you had with everyone you were all alone from the start!"
actually naruto's past is sadder he doesn't know his father is the fourth hokage or what happened to his mother, he had everyone hate him b/c of the demon fox he didn't know he had for 12 years, he had horrible grades,
no friends.
Sasuke
only have his entire family killed and saw it all
lived in his brothers shadow (until massacre)
erm..
he killed his brother only to find out that he did it for the village (I think)
thats it?
(Shippuden)
Now Naruto runs after sasuke and when he finds him he almost kills him
and naruto still runs after him while sasuke goes to the village to "destroy it"
(only will kill elders and hokage)
What I like about him is that he's hot damn it!
yummy:sasuke:
just like sai
:naruto::naruto::naruto:
I am neutral about sasuke
I dislike that he thinks he's better than every one
If naruto and sasuke fought it would end in a tie
without using nine tail fox or curse mark/sharingan
both have an side effect
I dislike that sasuke is so emo
when the final battle before shippuden
he said something like this "you have no idea what it feels like to lost all the bonds you had with everyone you were all alone from the start!"
actually naruto's past is sadder he doesn't know his father is the fourth hokage or what happened to his mother, he had everyone hate him b/c of the demon fox he didn't know he had for 12 years, he had horrible grades,
no friends.
Sasuke
only have his entire family killed and saw it all
lived in his brothers shadow (until massacre)
erm..
he killed his brother only to find out that he did it for the village (I think)
thats it?
(Shippuden)
Now Naruto runs after sasuke and when he finds him he almost kills him
and naruto still runs after him while sasuke goes to the village to "destroy it"
(only will kill elders and hokage)
What I like about him is that he's hot damn it!
yummy:sasuke:
just like sai
:naruto::naruto::naruto:
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I asked that too. I mean, what's wrong with going all bad-ass and killing a pedophile Sennin?
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