why do people think PS is an EMS tech?

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I like your thoughts

But IMO i think PS is only for Madara, no one else could even master it like he could.
It is a godly Susanoo and Madara and Hashirama are gods in my eyes.
 

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Perfect Susano'o is an EMS technique. Madara hinted several times, and I repeat, several times in the Manga that he used the Perfect Susano'o against Hashirama; this was at a time when Madara wielded only the EMS, thus, it's an EMS technique.​
 
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:sy: How many people are going to come in here w/o reading the OP? Are you attention spans that low that you can't even read a few short paragraphs?

Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-

If madara had PS with only MS he would go blind instantly..
 
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Perfect Susano'o is an EMS technique. Madara hinted several times, and I repeat, several times in the Manga that he used the Perfect Susano'o against him; this was at a time when Madara wielded only the EMS, thus, it's an EMS technique.​

All he hinted at was that he didn't use it on Onoki because he was a kid, Tsunade says did "Hashi really fight something like that?" and that anyone who has ever seen it didn't survive.

And also he was showing the "full power of the Uchiha" meaning that he was just holding back with susanoo and also didn't have time to exercise any other techs due to Edo's release.

He fought Hashi many times and we don't know how many times he fought against Onoki, but in the panel they showed it was during the time he had EMS seeing as though he possessed before they fought also.

But that doesn't prove nor disprove that it's an EMS tech.
 
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Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-

if madara had PS with EMS he would go blind instantly..

Then you obviously didn't comprehend what the OP was saying..

He is saying that it isn't a technique that you just automatically get with EMS, you need to awaken it yourself. EMS may play apart in getting it but its not automatically granted to you like the MS techs are.
 

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Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-

If madara had PS with only MS he would go blind instantly..

and How do you know he'd go blind instantly from PS? Kakashi sucked up Bee with kamui and used it a whole lot without going fully blind yet, and he has said he was going blind in the battle with Itachi when he first showed his MS to Itachi.

Itachi also says EMS awakens "a completely new tech"......perfect Susanoo isn't "completely" new. It's just an advanced form.
 

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Then you obviously didn't comprehend what the OP was saying..

He is saying that it isn't a technique that you just automatically get with EMS, you need to awaken it yourself. EMS may play apart in getting it but its not automatically granted to you like the MS techs are.

But what im saying is no ammount of training will help you maintain a stabilized susanoo for very long unless you have EMS, therefore EMS is required if you dont wanna kill yourself using it
 

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FINALLY, someone understands it. I am sick and tired of reading threads which say that PS is a new EMS technique, or it comes with Rinnegan. Come on people; it is just a stabilzied form of CS:

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But what im saying is no ammount of training will help you maintain a stabilized susanoo for very long unless you have EMS, therefore EMS is required if you dont wanna kill yourself using it

Yeah but Madara was also born with a substantial amount of chakra even among the uchiha. Was the first to get both MS and EMS, second to get the rinnegan, and first man to control the bijuu.

Someone like him should be able to handle it just fine.

It is said that Susanoo is a rarity among the Uchiha. So for someone to get both Susanoo from MS and PS from EMS would be nearly impossible then.

And if Susanoo is indeed rare, then PS is like the rarest pokemon out there.
 

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OP, are you saying that the EMS merely advanced Madara's Susano'o (to become PS) or are you claiming that the Perfect Susano'o we have witnessed was available to Madara the moment he awakened the standard Mangekyō Sharingan?
 

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and How do you know he'd go blind instantly from PS? Kakashi sucked up Bee with kamui and used it a whole lot without going fully blind yet, and he has said he was going blind in the battle with Itachi when he first showed his MS to Itachi.

Itachi also says EMS awakens "a completely new tech"......perfect Susanoo isn't "completely" new. It's just an advanced form.

Kakashi has never shown any symptoms of going blind which means he's obviously special. Every time we've seen susanoo active the users are put under tremendous strain unless they have ems, then they seem to be fine. Also the uchiha are known for powerful chakra, not large chakra reserves so taking that into consideration PS would be useless if EMS wasnt a requirement
 

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OP, are you saying that the EMS merely advanced Madara's Susano'o (to become PS) or are you claiming that the Perfect Susano'o we have witnessed was available to Madara the moment he awakened the standard Mangekyō Sharingan?

I'm saying anyone with Susanoo can achieve PS.

Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, completed, full, and perfect

With perfect Susanoo Madara just stabilized the chakra of the full Susanoo form.....

Both Sasuke and Itachi have the full Susanoo.
 

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Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, completed, full, and perfect

With perfect Susanoo Madara just stabilized the chakra of the full Susanoo form.....

Both Sasuke and Itachi have the full Susanoo....and all they need to do is learn how to stabilize it.
 

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Yeah but Madara was also born with a substantial amount of chakra even among the uchiha. Was the first to get both MS and EMS, second to get the rinnegan, and first man to control the bijuu.

Someone like him should be able to handle it just fine.

It is said that Susanoo is a rarity among the Uchiha. So for someone to get both Susanoo from MS and PS from EMS would be nearly impossible then.

And if Susanoo is indeed rare, then PS is like the rarest pokemon out there.

No im saying all uchiha that have susanoo also have PS once they awaken EMS
 

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its either a MS or EMS tech. It is an Uchiha power. Nothing to do with Rinnigan. Seeing how he didnt awaken Rinngan until he was old, and fragile.
 

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I'm saying anyone with Susanoo can achieve PS.

Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, completed, full, and perfect

With perfect Susanoo Madara just stabilized the chakra of the full Susanoo form.....

Both Sasuke and Itachi have the full Susanoo.

Alright to clarify, are you saying that MS Madara's complete (not Perfect) Susano'o was this? [ ].
 
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