[Discussion] Why do people think Kuma got weaker?

ToshiZO

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Ok so where did kuma go after this... oboviously back to vegapunk to get the upgrade that sentomaru mentioned. We have yet to see the new pacifistas, but after two years their ai is gonna be better and kuma's will as well. Kuma is gonna be a main enemy for the SH's at some point, and for that to be viable he has to be at least as strong as before.
Maybe. That's not what I'm talking about though, I'm talking about this same Kuma in the pic.
 

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Yea sure LOL.
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This was two years straight. It doesn't matter who you are, this will happen. Whitebeard would have been in this same position. If Zoro, after getting hit by Ursus Shock and being damaged by Oars(including being roundhouse kicked through a skyscraper) could land a sneak attack on Kuma, surely there are decent pirates and fighters out there who can do the same at full strength. If that Kuma and not Px-0, he'd actually be dead. You're overrating Kuma.
 
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