Why do people think Gaara's sand is weak to lightning?

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Actually FRS took out the 3rd Raikage's lightning armor, the armor took the blunt of the attack while the Raikge's natural powerful defense helped as well. His armor was off after the blast then he put it back on

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. The Raikage didn't really even tank it, you can see cracks on him

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. FRS cuts all your cells with tiny blades, not really useful on a edo that would regenerate from it.



Hashirama's wood and Madara's Susanoo are stronger than Sasuke's Susanoo slash (not talking about Enton enhanced sword). The only big Damage Sasuke's Susanoo did was when he had Naruto's chakra which was already shown to increase their jutsu's power by a ton. Hinata deflected 1 of Juubi's tail alone, Sasuke had Yin yang Kurama chakra which was much stronger as said by Choji.

Also Sasuke's lightning jutsus are mostly piercing jutsus and I mentioned piercing jutsu in OT

No....susanoo can not be increased like that...it only increases depending on the users emotions its already been shown way before naruto had that cloak and its magical bs feats.

When sasuke was getting mad at summit
When Gaara kept talking about Naruto and the village
When Danzo kept talking about Itachi
When Danzo talked about Itachi when sasuke was locked in his curse mark (got incomplete susanoo)
When Kakashi was showing his sharingan (sasuke got complete susanoo)

Naruto chakra isn't even a factor to sasuke. Sasuke was mad at Naruto for submitting to Obito so he did something about it.
He was also mad again which made him get PS WITHOUT Naruto's cloak. So that cloak is nothing. ​

 

[AlphaScythian]

Actually FRS took out the 3rd Raikage's lightning armor, the armor took the blunt of the attack while the Raikge's natural powerful defense helped as well. His armor was off after the blast then he put it back on

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. The Raikage didn't really even tank it, you can see cracks on him

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. FRS cuts all your cells with tiny blades, not really useful on a edo that would regenerate from it.

Well this is way too contradictional BS when it comes to FRS. It can destroy a mountain, can take down wooden dragons it can slice a juubi tails, but somehow it fails to destroy a body either living or edo. So which one is it? Does it only attack the cells? Or does it cut? And what is when? The blades hit raikage it didnt cut, while i agree raiton armor was taken down but so was FRS destructive power cuz raikage wasnt even stunned, edos dont regenerate that fast.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I see what you're saying but remember: the Sarutobi clan and the Uchiha clan are both known for being fire-wielding clan. If anything, chakra nature runs through the family like genes (somewhat, not the case in all situations). Kakashi didn't know about magnetic chakra as he had never met anybody with the ability prior to the time. Why mention Haku then? Why not mention Gaara since Naruto is more familiar with Gaara's jutsu?

I know, this is why I think it became the fire country, because the majority of the people had that affinity. Kakashi didn't meet one but he does know of it from Sakura fighting Sasori and his 3rd Kazekage puppet, remember they have to debrief Tsunade of what happened, they talked about how Sasori was suppose to meet with Kabuto. Why not mention Haku? Haku was the first example Naruto met so using it seems right. They weren't even going to tell him about it at first, Naruto asked Yamato what type he has and that's when they started to explain it to him.

No....susanoo can not be increased like that...it only increases depending on the users emotions its already been shown way before naruto had that cloak and its magical bs feats.

When sasuke was getting mad at summit
When Gaara kept talking about Naruto and the village
When Danzo kept talking about Itachi
When Danzo talked about Itachi when sasuke was locked in his curse mark (got incomplete susanoo)
When Kakashi was showing his sharingan (sasuke got complete susanoo)

Naruto chakra isn't even a factor to sasuke. Sasuke was mad at Naruto for submitting to Obito so he did something about it.
He was also mad again which made him get PS WITHOUT Naruto's cloak. So that cloak is nothing. ​

I said power, not Susanoo level, the examples you listed were when Sasuke leveled up his Susanoo and increased it's power by going to another Susanoo level. Naruto's chakra increase a person's jutsu's power, not chakra it's appearance. Just like how it increased Kakashi's Kamui's power by at least 3x then when he got BM chakra when the SA got it he said it was stronger

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As for PS, you're talking about leveling up Susanoo, I'm talking about increasing it's power with whatever Sasuke uses. Also Sasuke's PS was fused with BSM so both chakra were 1.

Well this is way too contradictional BS when it comes to FRS. It can destroy a mountain, can take down wooden dragons it can slice a juubi tails, but somehow it fails to destroy a body either living or edo. So which one is it? Does it only attack the cells? Or does it cut? And what is when? The blades hit raikage it didnt cut, while i agree raiton armor was taken down but so was FRS destructive power cuz raikage wasnt even stunned, edos dont regenerate that fast.

A about 50% FRS that Tsunade described

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and Yamato called it about 50%

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. As I said, The armor had to have took the majority of the attack which made it go off, therefore wind beat lightning. The Raikage still suffered from some damage as shown with the cracks but not enough to stop him, could he still move if he was alive? No one knows

 

[TheTailedSage]

I have no idea why people are writting these paragraphs to explain something so simple. Sand is compiled from earth/Dotton.

Raiton>>>Doton

Gaara uses Fuuton to control it but the dominant element is Raiton since the Fuuton is only used to control the sand no block off attacks added to the sand.

 

[AlphaScythian]

A about 50% FRS that Tsunade described

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and Yamato called it about 50%

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. As I said, The armor had to have took the majority of the attack which made it go off, therefore wind beat lightning. The Raikage still suffered from some damage as shown with the cracks but not enough to stop him, could he still move if he was alive? No one knows

I dont find that wind beat lighting here for next reason. A small water cannot beat a huge fire. FRS is rather heavy chakra duty technique, raiton armor isnt neither it is dense armor, its just repelling due to high frequency of electricity. With that said it looks like FRS overwhelmed more then nature advantage factor.

Kakuzu could still move, and the damage to the cells only severs chakra producing not body movement. Muu took time to regenerate from rasengan planet, FRS should do better, edo itachi still suffered from white rage (lame reason for a zombie), ama didnt even burn nagato that much but he was knocked out. Bottom line raiton did a pretty good job against massive wind technique to almost nullify the damage.

 

[believe7]

I am maybe wrong but I think the sand jutsu comprises of two elements which are earth and wind. It was never stated in the manga the elements that is needed to use sand ok Am just using a hypothesis and if that is so then we all know that earth is weak against lightening. But going by the manga Saskue did punctured the sand barrier that Gaara uses with his chidori. So maybe there is a slight weakness but not enough data to call it legit.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I dont find that wind beat lighting here for next reason. A small water cannot beat a huge fire. FRS is rather heavy chakra duty technique, raiton armor isnt neither it is dense armor, its just repelling due to high frequency of electricity. With that said it looks like FRS overwhelmed more then nature advantage factor.

Kakuzu could still move, and the damage to the cells only severs chakra producing not body movement. Muu took time to regenerate from rasengan planet, FRS should do better, edo itachi still suffered from white rage (lame reason for a zombie), ama didnt even burn nagato that much but he was knocked out. Bottom line raiton did a pretty good job against massive wind technique to almost nullify the damage.

You're forgetting that Kakazu was hit with a non 100% FRS, it was about 50% and killed 2 of his hearts. Kakashi mentioned how FRS had a high frequency as well

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. If Kakuza could still move then why did he just lay there while Kakashi took out his last heart?

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White rage effected his sight and hearing, Muu took a direct hit, and the 3rd Raikage who was mentioned to have extremely high defense when alive was able to tank FRS thanks to his armor. Had he been hit with a second FRS (after his armor was off) then he more than likely couldn't take it. You can't judge the damage of a edo to an alive person, they don't have pain limits, Did we see Itachi show pain from his disease? No

I am maybe wrong but I think the sand jutsu comprises of two elements which are earth and wind. It was never stated in the manga the elements that is needed to use sand ok Am just using a hypothesis and if that is so then we all know that earth is weak against lightening. But going by the manga Saskue did punctured the sand barrier that Gaara uses with his chidori. So maybe there is a slight weakness but not enough data to call it legit.

Chidori is a piercing attack as OT says, it focus all the chakra in one point. There's no lightning jutsu that's non-piercing that was used on the sand in a way to make us believe it's weak against it. Gaara wasn't even making his sand stronger by breaking mineral in the ground as he did against Kimmimaru.

Kakashi used water jutsu that couldn't stop a Fire+wind jutsu.

I have no idea why people are writting these paragraphs to explain something so simple. Sand is compiled from earth/Dotton.

Raiton>>>Doton

Gaara uses Fuuton to control it but the dominant element is Raiton since the Fuuton is only used to control the sand no block off attacks added to the sand.

And Kakuza's Fire+Wind combo was complied by fire with wind making it larger yet Kakashi couldn't beat it with just water, I showed link in OT. Yamato already explained how you need to combine the chakra to make a new one, Gaara wasn't using 2 elements separely, that requires more hand seals and we would see earth and wind jutsus making the sand therefore it has to be combined to form one chakra. No such thing as sand element, you make it by combining elements as Kakashi and Yamato says about wood jutsu

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[TheTailedSage]

And Kakuza's Fire+Wind combo was complied by fire with wind making it larger yet Kakashi couldn't beat it with just water, I showed link in OT. Yamato already explained how you need to combine the chakra to make a new one, Gaara wasn't using 2 elements separely, that requires more hand seals and we would see earth and wind jutsus making the sand therefore it has to be combined to form one chakra. No such thing as sand element, you make it by combining elements as Kakashi and Yamato says about wood jutsu

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I chose my words very carefully, i said Gaaras fuuton isnt used for offensive pruposes but only to control the sand. Kakazu uses it in an offensive manner which is completely different. Gaara has never used a fuuton jutsu and regardless of if he did it still doesntt negate the fact that 90% of gaaras jutsu is Doton based, the rest is passive/neutral fuuton. I never said sand was an element. Gaara can make sand with minerals in the ground (pure dotton) fact. sand is fossils and solidified earth, fact. Mokuton is a KG, gaara was given his gift by his mother.

 

[Champ]

Mainly it goes back to part 1. I believe Chidori was the first element to actually get through Gaara sand. Obviously now overtime a lot of things would destroy Gaara. Kirin, Biju dama, Jinton, etc....

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

because sand is a type of earth. is anyone who plays pokemon knows, lightning is not an I WIN LOL to earth, but some people think it is.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I chose my words very carefully, i said Gaaras fuuton isnt used for offensive pruposes but only to control the sand. Kakazu uses it in an offensive manner which is completely different. Gaara has never used a fuuton jutsu and regardless of if he did it still doesntt negate the fact that 90% of gaaras jutsu is Doton based, the rest is passive/neutral fuuton. I never said sand was an element. Gaara can make sand with minerals in the ground (pure dotton) fact. sand is fossils and solidified earth, fact. Mokuton is a KG, gaara was given his gift by his mother.

That's not how it works tho, when making a new chakra you don't use only 1 time as offense and one as defense. It depends on the jutsu you use, Gaara use his sand both offensively and defensively. As Kakashi said when describing Yamato's wood jutsu, you use the elements at the same time when making a new one

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. You can say for Haku's ice jutsus, that the water chakra was 90% of his ice jutsu and the rest is passive/neutral wind but why didn't Sasuke's fire blast do anything? We seen Fire and water cancel each other out unless one was stronger than the other and Sasuke was matching Haku just fine before he started to use his ice.

Same can be said about Kakuza's fire+wind, the wind wasn't offensive, he didn't see anything get cut or any blown away, it simply powered up the fire. When using 2 elements at onces make a new chakra which Sand falls under. Gaara got his sand control from Shukaku who is called the beast of the sand and who's body is made out of sand. His mother protecting him was refer to how the sand protects him without him wanting to in part 1.

Mainly it goes back to part 1. I believe Chidori was the first element to actually get through Gaara sand. Obviously now overtime a lot of things would destroy Gaara. Kirin, Biju dama, Jinton, etc....

Well Gaara was still a Genin, it's not like he fought many top notch ninjas who had KKG like lava and such. Chidori is a piercing attack, the chakra is focused in 1 point. It's not like all lightning that are not a piercing attack would penetrate the sand is what I'm saying. A's lightning armor would have allowed his leg to slice thru Gaara's sand if that was true.

because sand is a type of earth. is anyone who plays pokemon knows, lightning is not an I WIN LOL to earth, but some people think it is.

And Ice is a type of water in pokemon since water type can use it yet ice is water+wind in Naruto. In Avatar water benders can use ice, fire benders can use lightning, not the same thing in Naruto since they need wind or a completely different element in this case.

 

[End of Days]

Gaara was able to manipulate his sand depite the fact that it was present in mizukage's water dragon with raikage's lightning running through it

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i think its safe to say it isnt weak just that strong jutsus can overcome the sand

 

[xxSAGExx]

Agree, and chidori happened before he was shown to use minerals in the ground to increase his sand's defenses. Plus Shippuden's Gaara sand is much stronger and faster than part 1 Gaara sand unless people think part 1 Gaara can tank Enton, A's lightning infused leg drop, Deidara's explosion, 5 Legged Susanoo's sword while saving Mei, and restrict Madara's Susanoo while pulling Madara out.

 

[Oblivionx]

sasuke can't defeat gaara..........!
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