[Discussion] Why do people think America lost in Vietnam?

Retro Chaos

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So what. We killed a bunch of them communist bastards. They lucky US held back too. Nuked that sh*t outta them neg difficulty.
Are you f*cking braindead? It doesn't matter how many communist bastards the US killed - it still did not stop Communism, which was the entire point of that stupid war. And what do you mean the US 'held back'? Did you know that the US dropped more bombs in that war than the entirety of bombs dropped in WWII? Your government went all out on bombs, and you still could not stop Communism. Nukes could have been used, but weren't since the government were sh*t scared of the USSR and China.

Face it: your government were a bunch of barbaric idiots who could not stop the spread of Communism in a relatively small Asian country.
 

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The bias in this thread no matter how you put it huh? Scared of USSR & China? How were they scared when they just recently beat them in a war a year before Vietnam started? America's goal was to help the south and the whole time while being there they did the north hadn't captured the south until America pulled it's troops out because of the treaty of 1973, America though the treaty would have help settled things and had already left they captured Saigon in april of 1975 America wasn't coming back. Talking about being mentally scarred so were plenty of Vietnamese later down the line they stop getting resources from allies and had to use the rebels they got from the south as slaves to found the poor economy they had it's always half spoken here.
 
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The bias in this thread no matter how you put it huh? Scared of USSR & China? How were they scared when they just recently beat them in a war a year before Vietnam started? America's goal was to help the south and the whole time while being there they did the north hadn't captured the south until America pulled it's troops out because of the treaty of 1973, America though the treaty would have help settled things and had already left they captured Saigon in april of 1975 America wasn't coming back. Talking about being mentally scarred so were plenty of Vietnamese later down the line they stop getting resources from allies and had to use the rebels they got from the south as slaves to found the poor economy they had it's always half spoken here.
It doesn't matter if they beat them in the Korean war; for years the US held back in the Vietnamese war due to threat of Chinese/USSR intervention, not unlike the Cuban Missile Crisis. In addition, Nixon had to try and negotiate with the USSR and China to try and stop them supplying the North, which failed, but this proves that both countries were willing to intervene. If they weren't afraid they would have pushed the boundaries and thus let them intervene, but they did not.

Also, defending the South was not their goal at all; the North hardly tried to invade the South, there was insurgents but the Viet Minh defended most of the time, I can't think of any large invasion attempt except for the Tet Offensive.

I can assure you I have no bias; I am British and like America, but that does not change my opinion on such a pointless war.
 

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US pulled back.I do know one thing casualties don't decide the victor. The winner is the one who holds the ground.
This guy explains Vietnam war very well.

[video=youtube;Y2IcmLkuhG0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2IcmLkuhG0[/video]
 
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