[Discussion] Why do people think America lost in Vietnam?

UchiGod Itachi

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So I was doing a paper on Vietnam I've been doing some research on it and I've seen people say America lost?

Fact: America lost 58,000 Troops in Vietnam while North Vietnam lose 1.1 Million Soldiers on top of losing 2 million Civilians 3.1 people in total.

The war was hauled because of a Paris Peace Accord Act 1973



The Paris Peace Accords of 1973 intended to establish peace in Vietnam and an end to the Vietnam War, ended direct U.S. military involvement, and temporarily stopped the fighting between North and South Vietnam. The governments of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam), the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam), and the United States, as well as the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG) that represented indigenous South Vietnamese revolutionaries, signed the Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam on January 27, 1973. The agreement was not ratified by the United States Senate.[1] [2]

The negotiations that led to the accord began in 1968 after various lengthy delays. As a result of the accord, the International Control Commission (ICC) was replaced by International Commission of Control and Supervision (ICCS) to fulfill the agreement. The main negotiators of the agreement were United States National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger and Vietnamese politburo member Lê Ðức Thọ; the two men were awarded the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts, although Lê Ðức Thọ refused to accept it.


Compared to the damage America did to there soliders compared to Vietnam it was only 5% am I missing something?
 

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They did loss, they didn't achieve their goal so all their soldiers death were meaningless and in vain
 
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Because we didn't win. The defenders won since their purpose was fulfilled regardless of the details of the battle.
 

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The Vietnam war was more of a political loss to the US the a military loss. The North Vietnamese army and Vietcong (partially) knew that victory would not come from major battles but from Guerrilla warfare and political tensions. Plus the Vietnam war is just one of many examples of the little man beating the big man in history (i.e. The American Revolution, The Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, etc)
 

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They were out smarted by the enemies, like myths outsmarted by Legends...U_U
 

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Of course we won. Vietnam got Coke and McDonald's. Freedom at its finest
 

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what did we even achieve fromthat war
 

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So I was doing a paper on Vietnam I've been doing some research on it and I've seen people say America lost?

Fact: America lost 58,000 Troops in Vietnam while North Vietnam lose 1.1 Million Soldiers on top of losing 2 million Civilians 3.1 people in total.

The war was hauled because of a Paris Peace Accord Act 1973



The Paris Peace Accords of 1973 intended to establish peace in Vietnam and an end to the Vietnam War, ended direct U.S. military involvement, and temporarily stopped the fighting between North and South Vietnam. The governments of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam), the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam), and the United States, as well as the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG) that represented indigenous South Vietnamese revolutionaries, signed the Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam on January 27, 1973. The agreement was not ratified by the United States Senate.[1] [2]

The negotiations that led to the accord began in 1968 after various lengthy delays. As a result of the accord, the International Control Commission (ICC) was replaced by International Commission of Control and Supervision (ICCS) to fulfill the agreement. The main negotiators of the agreement were United States National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger and Vietnamese politburo member Lê Ðức Thọ; the two men were awarded the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts, although Lê Ðức Thọ refused to accept it.


Compared to the damage America did to there soliders compared to Vietnam it was only 5% am I missing something?

You do know that war is not about who gets most kills and destroys most? It is not Call of Duty. America's goal in the Vietnamese war was to contain Communism in Vietnam - the foolish government fought the Viet Minh for years, bombing their own territory in Vietnam to kill insurgents, but could not contain Communism.

If you cannot attain your goal, then you are the loser. In addition, America is the country that gave up in the end anyway since the forces withdrew. Overall, I'd say America are losers for even started that pointless war. Barbaric is the word I would describe their actions.
 

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Hells nah we didn't lose bruh. It was a tie :) besides we killed more of those Vietcong bastards than they did us.
 

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Because most people are retarded the body counts don't lie , talking about the objective wasn't complete the objective was to kill Northern Koreans we see the Gap in kills anybody who consider that a victory is a disgrace lol

Men lie
Woman lie
Numbers don't
 

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Because most people are retarded the body counts don't lie , talking about the objective wasn't complete the objective was to kill Northern Koreans we see the Gap in kills anybody who consider that a victory is a disgrace lol

Vietnamese people ain't Koreans bro
 
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