Why do people prefer Kaguya over Madara as the final villain?

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I just don't understand why people want Kaguya to be the final villian, instead of madara, We barely no anything about her, she just got introduced recently, and plus what Zetsu said about the "Kaguya will" thing doesint really make that much sense to me, Kaguya told madara to absorb the tree, so she wanted him to cast the dream and etc, and we seen the picture of Madara under kaguya, so wasint madara basically following kaguya's will already?, i just don't understand why kishi would want to get rid of madara and replace him with Kaguya, Madara has been here, mostly the whole entire war.

Also he barely even got to showcase his powers, for example, He stabs sasuke (One panel), he fights Hashirama
( 5 pages), the fight gets interupted or something like that, then Madara stabs him with the rod's when he comes back to life & absorbs his senjustu (One panel), he fights tobirama (A couple of pages) then he stabs him with the rods
(One panel), He fights Gai-sensei, (does nothing & takes hits), he fight's the bijuu's ( A couple of pages), the only legit fight's madara had, was when he fought the kages, and Naruto & sasuke in 674 and even then Madara got downgraded, and no one took any serious damage, other than those two fights, he mostly just stood around & dogged hits & got power-ups.

Honestly man, we never really got to see madara do anything really, it would be a shame if Zetsu gets Madara, i mean c'mon He's suspose to be the second strongest being in the world, What do power-ups even mean anymore?, He's suspose to be reallllyyyyyy strong, and he just get stabbed with zetu's hand just like that?, and if kaguya becomes the new villian then what?, will she barely fight as-well & just gets sealed?, what black zetsu did was epic but if you really think about it, after all madara has been hyped up to be, would really wanna see him out of the picture so soon?
 

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I lost interest in Madara when he became a Jin.

So Kaguya being FV is a nice change.
 

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This all wouldn't have happened if Minato wasn't busy making Naruto and paying attention to his squad. Maybe Minato would of found Madara and then Madara would probably be dead by now.
 

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Cuz female villains are popular.
 

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The base has more Obito fans than Madara , so he getting the same treatment as Obito makes them happy , Kaguya hansn't said or done anything really .
 

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Because Madara has gone downhill because of the Juubi Jin Nerf Syndrome.
 

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She is mysterious and new

,but i dont hate Madara as a FV
 

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Not that I prefer. But I had a strong feeling that she would be the final villain.

And, well. She looks so cool :nosebleed:

Also, Madara was cooler when he wasn't a Jin. I preferred the cocky Madara, now he just seems crazy.
 

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1. Kaguya stands as pure evil.

2. Madara serves as nothing more than a slightly more organized, cunning, and powerful Obito

-Like Obito, he had a dream that was just and good... but lost it because of events in his life (Izuna dies).

-Like Obito, he found a way to make a false reality (Except unlike Obito who found Madara... Madara found Kaguya and the Infinite Tsukiyomi plan on the Tablet)


When you really look at it, Madara's role is nothing more than Obito's role, the only difference was that we couldn't see who was pulling his strings until the Sage introduced Kaguya. We saw during Hashirama's flashback, Madara lost hope in the world. It is literally the same as Obito. The only reason we didn't instantly have a spam of theories about "New final villain." is because we didn't know of Kaguya and her relation to the Juubi.

While yes, Madara got all of this power, this serves to show just how much power Madara has. It is literally the same as when we went from Obito to Madara as the "final villain."

Obito: Kamui, Rinnegan, Controlled the Jinjuriki paths.... then we see Madara enter with Perfect Susanoo, and gradually show more and more power compared to Obito.


Now we see Madara display his power (Limbo, etc.), and now its being passed over to Kaguya (Who is manipulating the Zetsu).


Finally, and this one's just on me, Kaguya is a chick. Seriously, sounds sexist/reverse sexist... but seriously. Kishi has treated women like ABSOLUTE SHIT in this series. The strongest woman is between Tsunade and Mei.... and both are nothing compared to many male characters. Sure its a "sudden plot twist," and she'll hardly have the development any villain should (or any side character in Naruto, but hey that's another rant)... but at least Kishi made an attempt you know?




So....

1. She's representing a pure evil.

2. She's a chick.

3. She represents the origin of Uchiha AND Senju (thus the beginning of the Cycle of Hatred).

4. If she's the final villain of this arc, that means Naruto may not have fought, "The Man with powerful eyes," and thus suggests a final Naruto vs Sasuke.
 

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Im not posting my opinion so I don't get negged and nagged about bashing Naruto
 

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The base has more Obito fans than Madara , so he getting the same treatment as Obito makes them happy , Kaguya hansn't said or done anything really .

I think it's the other way around.Madara has tons of fans here,most are band wagoners that only like him because of his power.
 

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This all wouldn't have happened if Minato wasn't busy making Naruto and paying attention to his squad. Maybe Minato would of found Madara and then Madara would probably be dead by now.

You do know that a lot of oeople can't see your post cause of that annoying font.
 

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I don't, to be honest I think she's already had too much involvement, should have stayed more as a background character IMO.
 

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Cuz female villains are popular.

This is Kishi's way of apologizing for neglecting female characters

Even tho Kaguya has just as little development as well
 

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I just don't understand why people want Kaguya to be the final villian, instead of madara, We barely no anything about her, she just got introduced recently, and plus what Zetsu said about the "Kaguya will" thing doesint really make that much sense to me, Kaguya told madara to absorb the tree, so she wanted him to cast the dream and etc, and we seen the picture of Madara under kaguya, so wasint madara basically following kaguya's will already?, i just don't understand why kishi would want to get rid of madara and replace him with Kaguya, Madara has been here, mostly the whole entire war.

Also he barely even got to showcase his powers, for example, He stabs sasuke (One panel), he fights Hashirama
( 5 pages), the fight gets interupted or something like that, then Madara stabs him with the rod's when he comes back to life & absorbs his senjustu (One panel), he fights tobirama (A couple of pages) then he stabs him with the rods
(One panel), He fights Gai-sensei, (does nothing & takes hits), he fight's the bijuu's ( A couple of pages), the only legit fight's madara had, was when he fought the kages, and Naruto & sasuke in 674 and even then Madara got downgraded, and no one took any serious damage, other than those two fights, he mostly just stood around & dogged hits & got power-ups.

Honestly man, we never really got to see madara do anything really, it would be a shame if Zetsu gets Madara, i mean c'mon He's suspose to be the second strongest being in the world, What do power-ups even mean anymore?, He's suspose to be reallllyyyyyy strong, and he just get stabbed with zetu's hand just like that?, and if kaguya becomes the new villian then what?, will she barely fight as-well & just gets sealed?, what black zetsu did was epic but if you really think about it, after all madara has been hyped up to be, would really wanna see him out of the picture so soon?

i share your point,i really don't understand why kishi changed the final villian at the last minute...when the story was getting balanced at last.kaguya comes from a will made by madara in the first place....and takes over madara's role as a villian..it doesn't make sense..pffffft
 

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This is Kishi's way of apologizing for neglecting female characters

Even tho Kaguya has just as little development as well

Let's just hope Kaguya does'nt get bogged down with bad writing and has a interesting personality.
 
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