[Discussion] Why do people love Naruto but hate Sasuke?

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"Naruto is dog sh*t he can't beat obito madara hashi sauke nagato if you want me to explain sasuke i will"

..Oh ya.. definitely not biased in any way...

ur so stupid i wasent taking about that post i was talking about the post when he said that kurama saved naruto from pain
 

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Because Sasuke has done a bunch of reprehensible shit and Naruto hasn't
 

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ur so stupid i wasent taking about that post i was talking about the post when he said that kurama saved naruto from pain

...you mean from later on in the conversation, when we were no longer specifically talking about Sasuke? Christ you're dumb...
 

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Wasn't Kakashi the one who train with Rasenshuriken.

No. Kakashi was unable to do the Rasenshuriken. Kakashi is also unable to do Wind Release in general. Specifically, during that training sequence, Kakashi literally only gave him a piece of paper, explained chakra natures, and ran off to fight Hidan and Kakuzu.
 

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Wasn't Kakashi the one who train with Rasenshuriken.

That doesn't mean Kakashi knows how to make it. He helped Naruto learn how to master Wind, and Naruto learned Wind Release. Naruto HIMSELF mastered the Rasengan and put an element into the Rasengan, something Minato and Kakashi couldn't do. So Naruto made Rasenshuriken on his own, and it's his own special technique.
 

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I'm going to debate with you and not hate so don't get mad*

Anyways, Naruto could have defeated Pein without Kurama. Naruto constantly has to keep Kurama at bay with his own chakra, that's why he was chosen as the new host, and he had a couple of clones he could have used to go Sage Mode if he didn't go into the 6 tails. Plus he's talking about when he used True Wind Style: Rasenshuriken on some of the Paths.

Oh, and to expound on that! I just realized that if Naruto had not had the 9-tails inside of him, Shima and Fukasaku could have fused with him and he could've been in sage mode that whole fight.

I also feel like we're starting a what-if thread here.
 

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Oh, and to expound on that! I just realized that if Naruto had not had the 9-tails inside of him, Shima and Fukasaku could have fused with him and he could've been in sage mode that whole fight.

I also feel like we're starting a what-if thread here.

That's true. I'm just trying to defend Naruto here, and explain that you can't just take a HUGE part of a character away to prove that they suck without it.

And it seems that way.
 

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Lmfao @ Ninja Way, was Reborn your account as well?
 

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Wow........ some people are truly extreme.

To go claim and say that Sasuke hasnt worked for his powers and to claim Kurama didnt play a part in pain's defeat....


Kurama forced Nagato use Chibaku tensei... something that caused to start having nosebleed and having problems controlling his chakra.

Kyuubi pulled Naruto out of the messy position he was in... a position he couldnt have gotten out of if it wasnt for Hinata triggering Kyuubi's power.


Although the sole point of his argument wasnt to bash on Naruto, but to point out something that you have denied. Kyuubi played a role in the fight against Pain... it pushed Nagato towards his limit. Just accept it already.


And the fact that u jump to the offensive by pointing out that Sasuke was defeated against Bee shows that you are a obvious Sasuke hater. The argument wasnt about who gets saved the most and so on, but that Naruto isnt only about himself, there is a power that lies within him, a power that took him to heights he would have never achieved before. And that is something that Sasuke haters are having a problems with, because all they see is Naruto training and Sasuke getting new eyes.



Sasuke and Naruto have been pretty much equals in every possible sence of the word.


Both have had harsh life, both had their closest person sacrifice their life for them so that they could at some point become even stronger than they should have had. Both

Both were also born with remarkable abilities they gave them the potential to surpass others.



Sasuke was born with the Sharingan and a strong chakra.

Naruto was born with a large chakra pool of his own...


Before you comment, make sure to not underestimate Naruto's chakra pool, it's as usefull to Naruto as the Sharingan is to Sasuke , and again ,this is part 1 im talking about, wait for the rest.

Sasuke is a genius by himself, his strength doesnt only come from his Sharingan and lineage. He was the best and ranked 1st in everything at the academy, he was talented. It's also because he was a great and talent ninja that he had the potential to awake the Mangekyo. Itachi did mention that you need to meet certain circumstances but also have the potential. Why do you think only a handfull of people have the mangekyo??? .... the Mangekyo didnt just pop out.... it was because Sasuke was strong and had the potential to use that power to it,s full potential.


Naruto's chakra pool have shown to be the same as what the Sharingan is to Sasuke. They simply work in different manners, just like Naruto are Sasuke are different themselves.


Sasuke has the quality
Naruto the quantity


Sasuke is able to bring quality to the table quickly
While Naruto works longer in order to achieve the same height.

Do not missunderstand.... both ninjas reach their limits when it comes to training,,, the difference is that Sasuke hits his stamina wall before Naruto, thus Naruto catches on because he can train longer than Sasuke. Naruto works longer because he has a higher stamina pool, while Sasuke runs out of juice and gets stuck for a little, which is why Sasuke was always pissed off seeing Naruto catching up to him because his improvement was less constant than Naruto


Both will reach point A, but Sasuke will reach that point in 20 steps while Naruto will do it in 50. See what i'm saying???

Naruto's chakra pool is as overpowered as Sasuke's sharingan....



Now the all mighty power ups that people complain about


The mangekyo Sharingan.... as i said earlier.... this wasnt such a random powerup.. and obove all, it wasnt somethihg Sasuke did not work for. He worked his ass off and was a genius because of himself and himself alone. Sasuke had the potiental because he was talented. Just like Naruto was able to master Sage mode because he had the potential to do so and he exploited that very potential, he didnt let it rot.


The Eternal Mangekyo and the Kyuubi's full power are the only ''free'' and given powerup they have gotten


These two power ups needed them to be great and talented ninjas but unlike the other power ups, these for the most part would be considered gift.


Sasuke did need to have the Mangekyo himself, something he had to be good to get in the first place. But the action of Itachi giving him his eyes is a gift. When i said free i was merely speaking in terms of power... as Sasuke didnt need to work prior his acquisition of the Mangekyo in order to get EMS, if the eyes were there, he had the opportunity to get it. But a price had to be paid, and a heavy one too, Itachi's life which is the most important bond Sasuke truly had.


Same goes for Naruto... while Kyuubi had been part of Naruto's power all along... he was able to achieve a higher height partially by himself but also needed the intervention of his mother. And the original act required Minato's life to be sacrificed just like it required Itachi to die in order to make Sasuke stronger.

Itachi and Minato did the exact same thing.



Both Sasuke worked hard, Naruto simply had the opportunity to work longer because had more stamina, and it fit his character perfectly he cant assimilate things as quickly as Sasuke because he is simply not as talented. Sasuke's stamina was limited also because he didnt need more of it as he learned quickly

Both had their 'free' powers ups, and both had help to an extent in order to fully use these very power up. If you fail to see such thing after so long... well it's simply because you're too focused on hating or loving one of these characters. Wake the **** up already and stop bashing, you're only making youself look stupid.
 

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WOW!!! I didnt mean for this to explode into a full on argument lol. All I was saying is Sasuke is just out for his and wants to do what he wants to do because people here love the leaf lol. I love his character and can see his side as bad and good. But Naruto for intense people just love I dont really get why I like his character but people love the hell out of him I don get it.
 

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Wow........ some people are truly extreme.

To go claim and say that Sasuke hasnt worked for his powers and to claim Kurama didnt play a part in pain's defeat....


Kurama forced Nagato use Chibaku tensei... something that caused to start having nosebleed and having problems controlling his chakra.

Kyuubi pulled Naruto out of the messy position he was in... a position he couldnt have gotten out of if it wasnt for Hinata triggering Kyuubi's power.


Although the sole point of his argument wasnt to bash on Naruto, but to point out something that you have denied. Kyuubi played a role in the fight against Pain... it pushed Nagato towards his limit. Just accept it already.


And the fact that u jump to the offensive by pointing out that Sasuke was defeated against Bee shows that you are a obvious Sasuke hater. The argument wasnt about who gets saved the most and so on, but that Naruto isnt only about himself, there is a power that lies within him, a power that took him to heights he would have never achieved before. And that is something that Sasuke haters are having a problems with, because all they see is Naruto training and Sasuke getting new eyes.



Sasuke and Naruto have been pretty much equals in every possible sence of the word.


Both have had harsh life, both had their closest person sacrifice their life for them so that they could at some point become even stronger than they should have had. Both

Both were also born with remarkable abilities they gave them the potential to surpass others.



Sasuke was born with the Sharingan and a strong chakra.

Naruto was born with a large chakra pool of his own...


Before you comment, make sure to not underestimate Naruto's chakra pool, it's as usefull to Naruto as the Sharingan is to Sasuke , and again ,this is part 1 im talking about, wait for the rest.

Sasuke is a genius by himself, his strength doesnt only come from his Sharingan and lineage. He was the best and ranked 1st in everything at the academy, he was talented. It's also because he was a great and talent ninja that he had the potential to awake the Mangekyo. Itachi did mention that you need to meet certain circumstances but also have the potential. Why do you think only a handfull of people have the mangekyo??? .... the Mangekyo didnt just pop out.... it was because Sasuke was strong and had the potential to use that power to it,s full potential.


Naruto's chakra pool have shown to be the same as what the Sharingan is to Sasuke. They simply work in different manners, just like Naruto are Sasuke are different themselves.


Sasuke has the quality
Naruto the quantity


Sasuke is able to bring quality to the table quickly
While Naruto works longer in order to achieve the same height.

Do not missunderstand.... both ninjas reach their limits when it comes to training,,, the difference is that Sasuke hits his stamina wall before Naruto, thus Naruto catches on because he can train longer than Sasuke. Naruto works longer because he has a higher stamina pool, while Sasuke runs out of juice and gets stuck for a little, which is why Sasuke was always pissed off seeing Naruto catching up to him because his improvement was less constant than Naruto


Both will reach point A, but Sasuke will reach that point in 20 steps while Naruto will do it in 50. See what i'm saying???

Naruto's chakra pool is as overpowered as Sasuke's sharingan....



Now the all mighty power ups that people complain about


The mangekyo Sharingan.... as i said earlier.... this wasnt such a random powerup.. and obove all, it wasnt somethihg Sasuke did not work for. He worked his ass off and was a genius because of himself and himself alone. Sasuke had the potiental because he was talented. Just like Naruto was able to master Sage mode because he had the potential to do so and he exploited that very potential, he didnt let it rot.


The Eternal Mangekyo and the Kyuubi's full power are the only ''free'' and given powerup they have gotten


These two power ups needed them to be great and talented ninjas but unlike the other power ups, these for the most part would be considered gift.


Sasuke did need to have the Mangekyo himself, something he had to be good to get in the first place. But the action of Itachi giving him his eyes is a gift. When i said free i was merely speaking in terms of power... as Sasuke didnt need to work prior his acquisition of the Mangekyo in order to get EMS, if the eyes were there, he had the opportunity to get it. But a price had to be paid, and a heavy one too, Itachi's life which is the most important bond Sasuke truly had.


Same goes for Naruto... while Kyuubi had been part of Naruto's power all along... he was able to achieve a higher height partially by himself but also needed the intervention of his mother. And the original act required Minato's life to be sacrificed just like it required Itachi to die in order to make Sasuke stronger.

Itachi and Minato did the exact same thing.



Both Sasuke worked hard, Naruto simply had the opportunity to work longer because had more stamina, and it fit his character perfectly he cant assimilate things as quickly as Sasuke because he is simply not as talented. Sasuke's stamina was limited also because he didnt need more of it as he learned quickly

Both had their 'free' powers ups, and both had help to an extent in order to fully use these very power up. If you fail to see such thing after so long... well it's simply because you're too focused on hating or loving one of these characters. Wake the **** up already and stop bashing, you're only making youself look stupid.

I already said I hate Sasuke. I'm indifferent towards Naruto.
Either way, you just pulled a '/thread' so I guess this isn't going anywhere again.

Peace out.
 

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Wow........ some people are truly extreme.

To go claim and say that Sasuke hasnt worked for his powers and to claim Kurama didnt play a part in pain's defeat....


Kurama forced Nagato use Chibaku tensei... something that caused to start having nosebleed and having problems controlling his chakra.

Kyuubi pulled Naruto out of the messy position he was in... a position he couldnt have gotten out of if it wasnt for Hinata triggering Kyuubi's power.


Although the sole point of his argument wasnt to bash on Naruto, but to point out something that you have denied. Kyuubi played a role in the fight against Pain... it pushed Nagato towards his limit. Just accept it already.


And the fact that u jump to the offensive by pointing out that Sasuke was defeated against Bee shows that you are a obvious Sasuke hater. The argument wasnt about who gets saved the most and so on, but that Naruto isnt only about himself, there is a power that lies within him, a power that took him to heights he would have never achieved before. And that is something that Sasuke haters are having a problems with, because all they see is Naruto training and Sasuke getting new eyes.



Sasuke and Naruto have been pretty much equals in every possible sence of the word.


Both have had harsh life, both had their closest person sacrifice their life for them so that they could at some point become even stronger than they should have had. Both

Both were also born with remarkable abilities they gave them the potential to surpass others.



Sasuke was born with the Sharingan and a strong chakra.

Naruto was born with a large chakra pool of his own...


Before you comment, make sure to not underestimate Naruto's chakra pool, it's as usefull to Naruto as the Sharingan is to Sasuke , and again ,this is part 1 im talking about, wait for the rest.

Sasuke is a genius by himself, his strength doesnt only come from his Sharingan and lineage. He was the best and ranked 1st in everything at the academy, he was talented. It's also because he was a great and talent ninja that he had the potential to awake the Mangekyo. Itachi did mention that you need to meet certain circumstances but also have the potential. Why do you think only a handfull of people have the mangekyo??? .... the Mangekyo didnt just pop out.... it was because Sasuke was strong and had the potential to use that power to it,s full potential.


Naruto's chakra pool have shown to be the same as what the Sharingan is to Sasuke. They simply work in different manners, just like Naruto are Sasuke are different themselves.


Sasuke has the quality
Naruto the quantity


Sasuke is able to bring quality to the table quickly
While Naruto works longer in order to achieve the same height.

Do not missunderstand.... both ninjas reach their limits when it comes to training,,, the difference is that Sasuke hits his stamina wall before Naruto, thus Naruto catches on because he can train longer than Sasuke. Naruto works longer because he has a higher stamina pool, while Sasuke runs out of juice and gets stuck for a little, which is why Sasuke was always pissed off seeing Naruto catching up to him because his improvement was less constant than Naruto


Both will reach point A, but Sasuke will reach that point in 20 steps while Naruto will do it in 50. See what i'm saying???

Naruto's chakra pool is as overpowered as Sasuke's sharingan....



Now the all mighty power ups that people complain about


The mangekyo Sharingan.... as i said earlier.... this wasnt such a random powerup.. and obove all, it wasnt somethihg Sasuke did not work for. He worked his ass off and was a genius because of himself and himself alone. Sasuke had the potiental because he was talented. Just like Naruto was able to master Sage mode because he had the potential to do so and he exploited that very potential, he didnt let it rot.


The Eternal Mangekyo and the Kyuubi's full power are the only ''free'' and given powerup they have gotten


These two power ups needed them to be great and talented ninjas but unlike the other power ups, these for the most part would be considered gift.


Sasuke did need to have the Mangekyo himself, something he had to be good to get in the first place. But the action of Itachi giving him his eyes is a gift. When i said free i was merely speaking in terms of power... as Sasuke didnt need to work prior his acquisition of the Mangekyo in order to get EMS, if the eyes were there, he had the opportunity to get it. But a price had to be paid, and a heavy one too, Itachi's life which is the most important bond Sasuke truly had.


Same goes for Naruto... while Kyuubi had been part of Naruto's power all along... he was able to achieve a higher height partially by himself but also needed the intervention of his mother. And the original act required Minato's life to be sacrificed just like it required Itachi to die in order to make Sasuke stronger.

Itachi and Minato did the exact same thing.



Both Sasuke worked hard, Naruto simply had the opportunity to work longer because had more stamina, and it fit his character perfectly he cant assimilate things as quickly as Sasuke because he is simply not as talented. Sasuke's stamina was limited also because he didnt need more of it as he learned quickly

Both had their 'free' powers ups, and both had help to an extent in order to fully use these very power up. If you fail to see such thing after so long... well it's simply because you're too focused on hating or loving one of these characters. Wake the **** up already and stop bashing, you're only making youself look stupid.

this guy gets what i was trying to tell marcelo1, too bad he was to slow to understand me
 

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You don't just awaken MS, it was basically given to him by Itachi..


And yes given. You could say Itachi wanted Sasuke to avenge the clan and return to the leaf, but he also put the crow in Naruto for the chance that Sasuke obtained MS via his death, and transplanted his eyes to get EMS.
 

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I don't like either cause they both do some outrageously cheap things but that is do to plot no jutsu. The thing is though Naruto pulls wins out of his ass we watch him struggle and find this inner strength yadi yada and on the other hand Sasuke will go in the favorite get his ass handed to him and then boom through some crazy magic he either wins and gets to explain how he manage to bitch out of an lose or pops up with a crazy new power like "perfect tsukuyomi, amaterasu, susanoo, rinnegan" that if he thinks it, it will happen. (I know it's not real i'm ranting)
 
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You don't just awaken MS, it was basically given to him by Itachi..


And yes given. You could say Itachi wanted Sasuke to avenge the clan and return to the leaf, but he also put the crow in Naruto for the chance that Sasuke obtained MS via his death, and transplanted his eyes to get EMS.

See here you don't even make any sense Itachi wasn't that stupid enough to give Sasuke the MS he only sealed Amaterasua in him so he can kill Tobi/Obito..........Sasuke aweken the MS when he heared the truth about Itachi.
 

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See here you don't even make any sense Itachi wasn't that stupid enough to give Sasuke the MS he only sealed Amaterasua in him so he can kill Tobi/Obito..........Sasuke aweken the MS when he heared the truth about Itachi.

Itachi literally told Sasuke to kill his best friend to get the MS when he was little. That actually happened.
 
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