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Wrong. Itachi has no feats of destroying Chibaku Tensei. Clearly, Killer Bee contributed the most to its destruction with his Bijuu Dama, so to suggest that Itachi could do it by himself is laughable. Itachi would have to use a shitload of chakra to even dent it, but hey, we all know Itachi is a chakra machine, right? :|

If you begin to take that route with Itachi, then he surely defeats all besides the Sage himself? Am I right?

Could make the same argument about Nagato and the Sage. :| It seems like that's what is being suggested here. Fine CT forms and then is dropped on Yata Mirror it still doesn't do anything.

@Atitude up there Why would Nagato not be hit by Tsukuyomi? They were "teammates" on Akatsuki which is how they know things about each other. Surely Itachi would know a way to hit him with it or to look at him.
 

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Dude, you are saying a whole set of incorrect things right now... Being blind only takes away your doujutsu abilities that require eye contact.. Such as tsukyomi or amaterasu....

Things like deva path , won't go away because of a genjutsu...


The whiteshock jutsu's blinding effect didn't make their susanno drop.. It was the deafening sound and vibrations that caused paralysis and because of that sasuke was unable to hold up his susanno, because he couldn't concentrate properly..

Alright I agree with you lol.


But nagato still has no counter for Mukton is special because it is life created by hashi. Nagato has no way to absorb life..
 

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I'd just like to add, you say things like Totsuka Sword could be Preta pathed away or Shinra Tensei'd away but then Nagato could have done either of those to avoid getting sealed which he didn't so why assume he would. He got sealed by the sword, again, in the manga. **** these hypothetical he has this so he would use it.

He was being controlled, something which I addressed in my earlier post which listed all the drawbacks Nagato had to have just to make it an even fight.
 

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Everything I have stated I have based it off the manga, please come and try to debate with valid information without twisting anything with the manga...

Edited. I don't twist anything you're just unbelievably incorrect.
 

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Could make the same argument about Nagato and the Sage. :| It seems like that's what is being suggested here. Fine CT forms and then is dropped on Yata Mirror it still doesn't do anything.

@Atitude up there Why would Nagato not be hit by Tsukuyomi? They were "teammates" on Akatsuki which is how they know things about each other. Surely Itachi would know a way to hit him with it or to look at him.

First of Itachi will easily out smart nagato somehow to trap him in a genjutsu, I also think that CT can be stopped the moment it is formed by stabbing it with totska blade, since it seals anything it pierces.
 

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Could make the same argument about Nagato and the Sage. :| It seems like that's what is being suggested here. Fine CT forms and then is dropped on Yata Mirror it still doesn't do anything.

@Atitude up there Why would Nagato not be hit by Tsukuyomi? They were "teammates" on Akatsuki which is how they know things about each other. Surely Itachi would know a way to hit him with it or to look at him.

Are you completely stupid? CT isn't made to be dropped on something. It would suck up Susano'o and crush it.

Nagato avoiding Tsukuyomi has been explained prior by Owari, much better than I could word it at 2 am. Go look back.

First of Itachi will easily out smart nagato somehow to trap him in a genjutsu, I also think that CT can be stopped the moment it is formed by stabbing it with totska blade, since it seals anything it pierces.

holy turd i didn't know totsuka could pierce a ball of high pressure gravity
 

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Could make the same argument about Nagato and the Sage. :| It seems like that's what is being suggested here. Fine CT forms and then is dropped on Yata Mirror it still doesn't do anything.

@Atitude up there Why would Nagato not be hit by Tsukuyomi? They were "teammates" on Akatsuki which is how they know things about each other. Surely Itachi would know a way to hit him with it or to look at him.

Only the Sage, Tobi and Edo Madara could defeat a healthy Nagato with mobility. Fitting for a man who was called the Second Sage of Six Paths. The quicker you realise how HAX Rinnegan wielders actually are, the better.

Now how the hell is Itachi going to get out of Chibaku Tensei, hmmm? Eventually, he'll just run out of chakra, he'll be unable to maintain Susanoo and he'll simply be crushed by the rocks. Simple really.
 

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Are you completely stupid? CT isn't made to be dropped on something. It would suck up Susano'o and crush it.

Nagato avoiding Tsukuyomi has been explained prior by Owari, much better than I could word it at 2 am. Go look back.

It can be sealed in its very early stages of formation with totska blade since the blade has been said to specifically seen anything it peirces. If Itachi can get to the core in time CT is no use. ...
 

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Alright I agree with you lol.


But nagato still has no counter for Mukton is special because it is life created by hashi. Nagato has no way to absorb life..

Chakra is the basis of life, and Nagato can absorb chakra... If any moukoton gets near to him he can absorb the chakra in the moukoton, and turn it into dead wood or just revert it back to its former aspects..

 

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It can be sealed in its very early stages of formation with totska blade since the blade has been said to specifically seen anything it peirces. If Itachi can get to the core in time CT is no use. ...

The core of CT is just very dense gravity, and if you mean he'll seal all rocks being attracted, he'll be sealing ferdayz

if you can't understand i cba
 

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Only the Sage, Tobi and Edo Madara could defeat a healthy Nagato with mobility. Fitting for a man who was called the Second Sage of Six Paths. The quicker you realise how HAX Rinnegan wielders actually are, the better.

Now how the hell is Itachi going to get out of Chibaku Tensei, hmmm? Eventually, he'll just run out of chakra, he'll be unable to maintain Susanoo and he'll simply be crushed by the rocks. Simple really.

He whips out his sword and it is immediately drawn to the center of the gravity ball and seals it, like everything else it pierces.

Rinnehax is overpowered for sure but so is Itachi is my point. Also according to you guys, Nagato has to touch the wood in order to absorb its chakra. What if an entire forest of wood hit him? Hashirama is capable of that. And what about poison spores what does Nagato do about that?
 

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He whips out his sword and it is immediately drawn to the center of the gravity ball and seals it, like everything else it pierces.

again the core of ct is very dense gravity and it can't pierce gravity

Rinnehax is overpowered for sure but so is Itachi is my point. Also according to you guys, Nagato has to touch the wood in order to absorb its chakra. What if an entire forest of wood hit him? Hashirama is capable of that. And what about poison spore what does Nagato do about that?

doesn't have to touch it as shown when edo nagato fought naruto, a sphere comes around him and whatever touches that sphere is absorbed

he could sense the pollen+ waft it away with his mastery of wind element
 

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Nagato > Hashirama
Nagato > EMS Madara
 

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Chakra is the basis of life, and Nagato can absorb chakra... If any moukoton gets near to him he can absorb the chakra in the moukoton, and turn it into dead wood or just revert it back to its former aspects..


I think it will stop mukton from growing, but I also think that their is a risk in absorbing such chakra... hashis chakra is extremely special... in the case that if it is absorbed their is a huge chance that it might go out of control just like what happened with danzo, thus I think nagato is limited to how much he can absorb Mukton. Or he will suffer a terrible fate...
 

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Nagato would most likely beat Hashirama and would definitely beat EMS Madara, that's my opinion. It may not be yours but there's no need to make a thread about it. What's the point of the thread?
 

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He whips out his sword and it is immediately drawn to the center of the gravity ball and seals it, like everything else it pierces.

There is No proof what so ever stating that the totsuka sword can pierce everything it stabs... That was the legend of the Kusunagi sword, and even that Couldn't pierce tailed beast skin....Considering a tbb, rasen shruiken and yasaka magtama was needed to just crack and break the center core, That's not happening

I think it will stop mukton from growing, but I also think that their is a risk in absorbing such chakra... hashis chakra is extremely special... in the case that if it is absorbed their is a huge chance that it might go out of control just like what happened with danzo, thus I think nagato is limited to how much he can absorb Mukton. Or he will suffer a terrible fate...

That's a big if... Preta can also work by dispersing the chakra as it is absorbed.....Tailed beast chakra was also stated to be dangerous, that taking in some would kill people, yet Nagato absorbed it with 0 problems...
 
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again the core of ct is very dense gravity and it can't pierce gravity



doesn't have to touch it as shown when edo nagato fought naruto, a sphere comes around him and whatever touches that sphere is absorbed

he could sense the pollen+ waft it away with his mastery of wind element

I doubt that a huge sword like that will not be able to Pierce it. Do you not realize the power behind a v3 susanoo? That thing is monstrous and I'm sure it will Pierce and seal...
 

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He whips out his sword and it is immediately drawn to the center of the gravity ball and seals it, like everything else it pierces.

Rinnehax is overpowered for sure but so is Itachi is my point. Also according to you guys, Nagato has to touch the wood in order to absorb its chakra. What if an entire forest of wood hit him? Hashirama is capable of that. And what about poison spore what does Nagato do about that?

Such things are pushed far enough back by Shinra Tensei. Shinra Tensei, which when used by Deva Path (who is not as powerful as the real Nagato, as has been stated), Flung Gamabunta and the other toad hundreds of yards into the mountains. With ease. Let's not forget Nagato's Fuuton. Read the post if you have questions about Hashirama.

Itachi won't even hit the core, an outer layer always forms before that.
 

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I doubt that a huge sword like that will not be able to Pierce it. Do you not realize the power behind a v3 susanoo? That thing is monstrous and I'm sure it will Pierce and seal...

for the 3rd time ct core is dense gravity, are you saying totsuka can pierce gravity?
 

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Nagato would most likely beat Hashirama and would definitely beat EMS Madara, that's my opinion. It may not be yours but there's no need to make a thread about it. What's the point of the thread?

Currently their are about 5 members who are debating with valid points. If you do not wish to contribute to this thread then you may leave as you please.

Please do not post pointless posts.
 
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