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??? Lmao,

You do realize, that Hashirama was Equal to EMS Madara, and edo madara is something totally different right?

Oh my oh my,


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The problem is, they think Hashirama was Equal to the man currently in the manga, sigh, these nbers





I doubt Nagato can beat Edo madara, Madara possibly has all the rinnegan jutsu now as well.. so idk, it would be a tough fight....


On the other side, Edo madara may not have all the rinnegan jutsu, since he didn't have it along, and won't have Nagato's mastery....


as for kabuto with edo ,30 + edos is too much for anyone to handle

And tobi with bijuu's , 6 bijuu's is too much for him to handlse as well
Okay. I just wanted to see how far you would go with Nagato.
 

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Mokuton is originally chakra based, otherwise he wouldn't be able to manipulate it :|

Believe what you want but you're basically asking me the equivilant of Itachi vs Kakashi, and you're backing Kakashi :\
I said nothing about Kakashi. Dafuq are you people talking about. I'm still waiting, guess I'll have to wait a while. The rest of you get so ****ing defensive and butt hurt I am replying to Ryuu on purpose so as to have a discussion. On topic, plenty of summons are controlled by chakra and they require chakra so just because a summon is summoned with chakra the animal can be absorbed? Can pain just absorb Gamabunta? I think not.
 

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I said nothing about Kakashi. Dafuq are you people talking about. I'm still waiting, guess I'll have to wait a while. The rest of you get so ****ing defensive and butt hurt I am replying to Ryuu on purpose so as to have a discussion. On topic, plenty of summons are controlled by chakra and they require chakra so just because a summon is summoned with chakra the animal can be absorbed? Can pain just absorb Gamabunta? I think not.
You obviously didn't understand Ryuu's metaphor.

Skipping over it, you're saying he uses chakra to make wood so it can't be absorbed, but Jiraiya used chakra to make oil, that was still absorbed.

there's chakra in the wood manipulating it, he won't absorb the wood itself, but render it useless / dead and take the chakra
 

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:| nidaime, are you retarded? summonings are living beings... animals... they have brains and chakra networks..

Can preta absorb them? yes

if nagato touches you, he can drain the chakra from your body untill your dead.. he can do the same to the summonings..Their skin etc won't be drained, because it isn't chakra based...

Moukoton is the combination of water and earth, chakra based water and earth...

Just like preta can absorb chakra based fire, Everything RELATING To chakra ......

Once chakra is gone from the wood, what do you think happens to it? it either loses its form , or simply dies...
 

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are you kidding me? STOP OVERATING Hashirama and Madara... hashi was never the strongest, never... Even kabuto said that after him there were stronger people...

Nagato is a mini GOD.. A mini GOD, He can shit on hashirama any day of the week, and trap him in a giant ball in the sky....
Hashi's attacks will do nothing to him since he has preta path , His ninjutsu can also be countered by
NAGATO'S MASTERY OF THE 5 ELEMENTS,




Get this through your head

Edo Madara, is NOTHING, like the madara hashi fought.... Madara , never had rinnegan, he never has moukoton, or all of that chakra, etc...
Although in the past I have always agreed with you, now I will tell you that I extremely disagree with you.

How a can you say that Nagato is even comparable to Hashirama?

Tell me this, were do you bring this logic from?

Tell me this, Hashirama was able to beat madara WITH kurama....


Tell me this, how can you say what you said when nagato cannot even contain the kyubii.

Tell me..... What can nagato do against someone who poses the bringer of darkness?

Tell me how nagato can avoid that.... when jiraya placed him in a simple genjutsu.....
 

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:| nidaime, are you retarded? summonings are living beings... animals... they have brains and chakra networks..

Can preta absorb them? yes

if nagato touches you, he can drain the chakra from your body untill your dead.. he can do the same to the summonings..Their skin etc won't be drained, because it isn't chakra based...

Moukoton is the combination of water and earth, chakra based water and earth...

Just like preta can absorb chakra based fire, Everything RELATING To chakra ......

Once chakra is gone from the wood, what do you think happens to it? it either loses its form , or simply dies...
I have heard everything now. This post almost made me laugh out loud but I was stricken by silence at how dumb it is, sorry. Preta path can absorb Gamabunta like ninjutsu. Well played Nagato fans.

Absorb, not sucking souls, absorb. Hmm.
 
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Although in the past I have always agreed with you, now I will tell you that I extremely disagree with you.

How a can you say that Nagato is even comparable to Hashirama?

Tell me this, were do you bring this logic from?

Tell me this, Hashirama was able to beat madara WITH kurama....


Tell me this, how can you say what you said when nagato cannot even contain the kyubii.

Tell me..... What can nagato do against someone who poses the bringer of darkness?

Tell me how nagato can avoid that.... when jiraya placed him in a simple genjutsu.....


Sigh, ploops

Hashirama IS ONLY able to defeat kurama because he has an ability that supresses its chakra...

If you dont have a away to supress, or control, or seal Kyuubi, then very LITTLE people on this manga can defeat it...

And if Nagato wanted to kill kyuubi he could have easily, but capturing it as he said was too much...


To escape bringer of darkness , you only need to land a blow on the target some how... Nagato uses attacks with gravitational forces, which is undodgable.. As well as the fact that he's a sensor who doesn't even need his eyess...



Preta path can absorb Gamabunta like ninjutsu. Well played Nagato fans.

Preta path can absorb the chakra IN gamabunta... Just like yoroi was absorbing the chakra IN sasuke

And kisame was absorbing the chakra IN ninjas


Sigh
 

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Although in the past I have always agreed with you, now I will tell you that I extremely disagree with you.

How a can you say that Nagato is even comparable to Hashirama?

Tell me this, were do you bring this logic from?

Tell me this, Hashirama was able to beat madara WITH kurama....


Tell me this, how can you say what you said when nagato cannot even contain the kyubii.

Tell me..... What can nagato do against someone who poses the bringer of darkness?

Tell me how nagato can avoid that.... when jiraya placed him in a simple genjutsu.....
The only and I repeat ONLY reason he was able to defeat Madara and Kyuubi was because Hashi powers gave the special ability to supress bijuus. Hashi at one point was able to supress 8 bijuu at a time.

Does this mean Hashi is physically stronger than 8 bijuu combined hell no?

Get these weak arguments out of here. Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hashirama.

Bringer of Darkness is not an ordinary genjutsu. It has a range that can be easily escaped with Deva Path. Nagato has linked vision that his animal paths can see through. Bringer of Darkness won't do shi to Nagato because he is also a sensor.
 

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I have heard everything now. This post almost made me laugh out loud but I was stricken by silence at how dumb it is, sorry. Preta path can absorb Gamabunta like ninjutsu. Well played Nagato fans.
Are you stupid? Every living thing has chakra in it. Preta Path can absorb the chakra from the body if contact is made, effectively absorbing the 'life' of the organism, it will still have its body and things, but will die and be 'absorbed'
 

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I said nothing about Kakashi. Dafuq are you people talking about. I'm still waiting, guess I'll have to wait a while. The rest of you get so ****ing defensive and butt hurt I am replying to Ryuu on purpose so as to have a discussion. On topic, plenty of summons are controlled by chakra and they require chakra so just because a summon is summoned with chakra the animal can be absorbed? Can pain just absorb Gamabunta? I think not.
Preta path absorbs ninjutsu. Mokuton is ninjutsu. You probably find it wierd that it can be absorbed because it is solid. It can be absorbed.

I used Kakashi to show the difference in power between Nagato and Itachi. Kakashi is to Itachi what Itachi is to Nagato. It is clear who the winner is. It is for that reason why explaining this is rather irrelevant. Nagato could start with Chibaku Tensei. Itachi dies. Banshou Tenin/Human Path combo defeats Itachi (Note, he is immobilised when under the effects of Banshou Tenin). Gedo Mazo just stomps. All of Itachi's offensive techniques are made useless by Shinra Tensei. Tsukuyomi is his only hope. So lets compare all of Nagato's possibilites with Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Heck, I guess even Kakashi could beat Hashirama if he Kamui'd him :|

I also notice how quick people are to jump on the Hashirama hype wave. A myth like the So6P. Nagato was actually called the 2nd Sage of 6 Paths. GG.
 

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I have heard everything now. This post almost made me laugh out loud but I was stricken by silence at how dumb it is, sorry. Preta path can absorb Gamabunta like ninjutsu. Well played Nagato fans.

Absorb, not sucking souls, absorb. Hmm.
You don't anything about Nagato. :flaw::flaw::flaw: Preta Path was able to suck up Naruto's senjutsu chakra. Please exit the thread now.


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The only and I repeat ONLY reason he was able to defeat Madara and Kyuubi was because Hashi powers gave the special ability to supress bijuus. Hashi at one point was able to supress 8 bijuu at a time.

Does this mean Hashi is physically stronger than 8 bijuu combined hell no?

Get these weak arguments out of here. Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hashirama.

Bringer of Darkness is not an ordinary genjutsu. It has a range that can be easily escaped with Deva Path. Nagato has linked vision that his animal paths can see through. Bringer of Darkness won't do shi to Nagato because he is also a sensor.

Hope for Nb, -Restored

Not only is he a sensor, But he also has rain tiger at will, which would give him hashirama's exact location, at any time, once the rain is falling




Tsukuyomi is his only hope. So lets compare all of Nagato's possibilites with Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Heck, I guess even Kakashi could beat Hashirama if he Kamui'd him
I will say I am a big fan of Itachi , and EVEN I know that Nagato won't get hit by Tsukyomi...
Nagato had details on Itachi that I've yet to see anyone else have other than zetsu, eg- the presigns of Amaterasu, and he knew that once atmospheres started shifting, to start dodging...
To think he would just fight while looking at Itachi, when he would obviously know about tsukyomi... when he has many other means to fight without eye contact, such as sensory, or shared eye contact with summons, is completely ridiculous
 
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Preta path absorbs ninjutsu. Mokuton is ninjutsu. You probably find it wierd that it can be absorbed because it is solid. It can be absorbed.

I used Kakashi to show the difference in power between Nagato and Itachi. Kakashi is to Itachi what Itachi is to Nagato. It is clear who the winner is. It is for that reason why explaining this is rather irrelevant. Nagato could start with Chibaku Tensei. Itachi dies. Banshou Tenin/Human Path combo defeats Itachi (Note, he is immobilised when under the effects of Banshou Tenin). Gedo Mazo just stomps. All of Itachi's offensive techniques are made useless by Shinra Tensei. Tsukuyomi is his only hope. So lets compare all of Nagato's possibilites with Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Heck, I guess even Kakashi could beat Hashirama if he Kamui'd him :|

I also notice how quick people are to jump on the Hashirama hype wave. A myth like the So6P. Nagato was actually called the 2nd Sage of 6 Paths. GG.
Wait didn't Itachi destroy CT in the making? Yes he had help but he clearly was anchoring himself. And if he was anchoring himself and Nagato dropped the meteor, well he has an unbreakable shield to take the hit. TenTen is greater than Edo Madara but explaining this is rather irrelevant. No I'd like that explanation otherwise I could just make ridiculous claims. Clones could fool Nagato and Itachi has smarts. He has Tsukuyomi to win and I'd take that bet. Also I don't understand why this is such a no-brainer when Itachi simply needs to look at him to win. Seems like a no-brainer in the other direction.

I'd just like to add, you say things like Totsuka Sword could be Preta pathed away or Shinra Tensei'd away but then Nagato could have done either of those to avoid getting sealed which he didn't so why assume he would. He got sealed by the sword, again, in the manga. **** these hypothetical he has this so he would use it.
 
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Hope for Nb, -Restored

Not only is he a sensor, But he also has rain tiger at will, which would give him hashirama's exact location, at any time, once the rain is falling
You do know that once you are blind you loose all your doujutsu abilities right? look at what happened in Itachi vs kabuto battle. the moment he blinded them susanoo went out. This tells you that the same exact thing will happen with nagato, his paths will do him no good. You also seem to miss understand that hashi cannot be simply killed by atraction of gravity. The moment he is attracted to nagato and nagato tries to stab him the next thing you will see is his head off... A simple stab is something hashi can heal from..... Also we don't even know what the hell hashi has in his forbidden scroll.


Their is a REASON why madara STILL thinks Hashi is STILL the one who is ONLY capable of stopping him now. That we DO NOT know....
 

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Wait didn't Itachi destroy CT in the making? Yes he had help but he clearly was anchoring himself. And if he was anchoring himself and Nagato dropped the meteor, well he has an unbreakable shield to take the hit. TenTen is greater than Edo Madara but explaining this is rather irrelevant. No I'd like that explanation otherwise I could just make ridiculous claims. Clones could fool Nagato and Itachi has smarts. He has Tsukuyomi to win and I'd take that bet. Also I don't understand why this is such a no-brainer when Itachi simply needs to look at him to win. Seems like a no-brainer in the other direction.
Not even going to carry on. Itachi cannot break CT on his own, he was getting pulled upwards towards the core, and wasn't anchroing himself.

Nagato won't get hit by Tsukuyomi.

Idk what that tenten part had to do with anything, since we've backed our points up logically, you haven't.
 

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Wait didn't Itachi destroy CT in the making? Yes he had help but he clearly was anchoring himself. And if he was anchoring himself and Nagato dropped the meteor, well he has an unbreakable shield to take the hit. TenTen is greater than Edo Madara but explaining this is rather irrelevant. No I'd like that explanation otherwise I could just make ridiculous claims. Clones could fool Nagato and Itachi has smarts. He has Tsukuyomi to win and I'd take that bet. Also I don't understand why this is such a no-brainer when Itachi simply needs to look at him to win. Seems like a no-brainer in the other direction.
Wrong. Itachi has no feats of destroying Chibaku Tensei. Clearly, Killer Bee contributed the most to its destruction with his Bijuu Dama, so to suggest that Itachi could do it by himself is laughable. Itachi would have to use a shitload of chakra to even dent it, but hey, we all know Itachi is a chakra machine, right? :|

If you begin to take that route with Itachi, then he surely defeats all besides the Sage himself? Am I right?
 

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You do know that once you are blind you loose all your doujutsu abilities right? look at what happened in Itachi vs kabuto battle. the moment he blinded them susanoo went out. This tells you that the same exact thing will happen with nagato, his paths will do him no good. You also seem to miss understand that hashi cannot be simply killed by atraction of gravity. The moment he is attracted to nagato and nagato tries to stab him the next thing you will see is his head off... A simple stab is something hashi can heal from..... Also we don't even know what the hell hashi has in his forbidden scroll.


Their is a REASON why madara STILL thinks Hashi is STILL the one who is ONLY capable of stopping him now. That we DO NOT know....

This post is just full of fail. 1st off the tech Kabuto used and Hashirama uses are two different things.

2nd. Neither of those techniques disabled dojutsu. Itachi and Sasuke merely had a tough time mantaining Susanoo because of the irritating sound. They didn't lose their abilities.

Tell me what is Hashi going to do when he getting Bansho Tensei to the ground.

I like how your just showing your ignorance in that last part.
 
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You do know that once you are blind you loose all your doujutsu abilities right? look at what happened in Itachi vs kabuto battle. the moment he blinded them susanoo went out. This tells you that the same exact thing will happen with nagato, his paths will do him no good. You also seem to miss understand that hashi cannot be simply killed by atraction of gravity. The moment he is attracted to nagato and nagato tries to stab him the next thing you will see is his head off... A simple stab is something hashi can heal from..... Also we don't even know what the hell hashi has in his forbidden scroll.


Their is a REASON why madara STILL thinks Hashi is STILL the one who is ONLY capable of stopping him now. That we DO NOT know....


Dude, you are saying a whole set of incorrect things right now... Being blind only takes away your doujutsu abilities that require eye contact.. Such as tsukyomi or amaterasu....

Things like deva path , won't go away because of a genjutsu...


The whiteshock jutsu's blinding effect didn't make their susanno drop.. It was the deafening sound and vibrations that caused paralysis and because of that sasuke was unable to hold up his susanno, because he couldn't concentrate properly..


As you can see here , Itachi still has susanno up despite being blind, which completely disproves your theory
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I'd just like to add, you say things like Totsuka Sword could be Preta pathed away or Shinra Tensei'd away but then Nagato could have done either of those to avoid getting sealed which he didn't so why assume he would. He got sealed by the sword, again, in the manga. **** these hypothetical he has this so he would use it.
Hey, get this, Nagato is a sensor and can pinpoint chakra signals from miles away, he can without a doubt sense the immense amount of chakra which forms Susano'o swinging it's arm to stab him and avoid it from a few meters away

Hey, get this, Nagato was being controlled by someone (Kabuto) who didn't know his powers even a fraction as well as him, he didn't even know he was a sensor.

Gosh you're silly!
 
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