I see the appeal to it. I mean, if it is plausible, it is believable. But that on itself does not make a theory into a fact.
Only dumb people would think that "It is POSSIBLE = it ACTUALLY is"
If there is some mental gymnastics involved, that means that it is merely a theory. A fact is cut dry, fact. No refuting it. It is impossible.
I see a lot of people using the theory "Uzumakis are Senjus" as a fact. Any kind of further thinking will overturn that especially when presented with new evidence. The fact that it has holes needed to fill just to make that statement true means that it is not a fact.
You are BIASED AF. You look at things SUBJECTIVELY than OBJECTIVELY. You choose the one that best fit your fandom despite having presented with new facts! Yours is a THEORY not a FACT. Outdated one at that.
The only facts to back the theory of "Uzumaki is part of Senju clan":
FACT #1: Nagato is Senju as well as Uzumaki
FACT #2: Uzumaki is distantly related to Senju
FACT #3: Because there are no more Senju, Naruto became Asura's transmigrant
The theory of all these 3 spelling out: Uzumaki are Senju makes sense. But it is not a fact. It requires one to string them all together to drive that conclusion with complete disregard of other evidence that prove otherwise.
The fact that speculation and omission are required to make this theory true means that it is a WEAK theory.
These are outdated facts at that.
FACT #1: Nagato's relation with Senju
Naruto and Nagato and the rest of the Uzumaki were indeed set up as Senju. That is solely due to the "RS ending." However, the plot moved further than that and retconned the entire RS thing.
FACT #3: Naruto is the 2nd coming of the ultimate being: Rikudou Sennin
Revised FACT: Naruto is Asura's transmigrant
Revised FACT: The ultimate being is RS's mother, "Rabbit goddess"
Rerevised FACT: there is no ultimate being since it can be achieved by eating your partner as a chakra fruit
Revised FACT: There are 2 Rikudou Sennin, Kaguya the rabbit goddess's twins: Hagoromo and Hamura
Nagato's plotline was from a time where the end plot was not fully established yet. It is where Hagoromo and Hamura were practically nonexistent, just an idea that is not fully developed, let alone established. So at the end of the series, we cannot take anything that was INTRODUCED during the Nagato plotline as is. Things were not as they seem.
Hell, even at the end, it was still the case. We see Kaguya without Tenseigan, yet Hamura got them and Toneri awakened his. This storytelling conflicted because the movie was being kept under wraps.
"BUT UZUMAKI IS SENJU IS MANGA FACTS" by some no-brained dumbass
It isn't. It is nowhere shown nor said that they were.
It is IMPLIED that they were DURING the Rikudou Sennin plotline. This was overturned when Kaguya became the ultimate being; Rikudou Sennin became Hagoromo and Hamura; and Naruto became Asura's transmigrant instead.
NEW AND FAR MORE DEVELOPED FACTS AND EVIDENCE:
similarities and carbon copy parallels.
Toneri's plotline is Madara's plotline
Toneri (pre Tenseigan) is Naruto.
Kinshiki has chakra armaments like the Uzumaki chains
Momoshiki's plotline is Kaguya's.
Here we have a Yin awakening the Rinne doujutsu and a Yang awakening Tenseigan.
Toneri having the same abilities as Naruto.
Symbolism throughout the Otsutsuki ark (from end of Naruto to the 2 movies to Boruto).
Yin = black/dark/spirit/mental/feminine/negative/mind/intangible (simply Rinnegan and Sage tattoos)
Yang = white/light/reality/physical/masculine/positive/body/tangible (Tenseigan and Chakra whatever)
duality = partnered up with oppposites.
Hagoromo = Hamura
Uchiha + Senju + Uzumaki? NONONO... There's no duality there. Uchihas do not have other split clans. Senjus do not have split clans. Hyugas do not have split clans.
There are no branch clans with other names. There are no statements that say Uzumaki is a branch. Nor was it ever shown.
Which means, new facts and evidences refute the Uzumaki are Senju theory.
Only dumb people would think that "It is POSSIBLE = it ACTUALLY is"
If there is some mental gymnastics involved, that means that it is merely a theory. A fact is cut dry, fact. No refuting it. It is impossible.
I see a lot of people using the theory "Uzumakis are Senjus" as a fact. Any kind of further thinking will overturn that especially when presented with new evidence. The fact that it has holes needed to fill just to make that statement true means that it is not a fact.
You are BIASED AF. You look at things SUBJECTIVELY than OBJECTIVELY. You choose the one that best fit your fandom despite having presented with new facts! Yours is a THEORY not a FACT. Outdated one at that.
The only facts to back the theory of "Uzumaki is part of Senju clan":
FACT #1: Nagato is Senju as well as Uzumaki
FACT #2: Uzumaki is distantly related to Senju
FACT #3: Because there are no more Senju, Naruto became Asura's transmigrant
The theory of all these 3 spelling out: Uzumaki are Senju makes sense. But it is not a fact. It requires one to string them all together to drive that conclusion with complete disregard of other evidence that prove otherwise.
The fact that speculation and omission are required to make this theory true means that it is a WEAK theory.
These are outdated facts at that.
FACT #1: Nagato's relation with Senju
Naruto and Nagato and the rest of the Uzumaki were indeed set up as Senju. That is solely due to the "RS ending." However, the plot moved further than that and retconned the entire RS thing.
FACT #3: Naruto is the 2nd coming of the ultimate being: Rikudou Sennin
Revised FACT: Naruto is Asura's transmigrant
Revised FACT: The ultimate being is RS's mother, "Rabbit goddess"
Rerevised FACT: there is no ultimate being since it can be achieved by eating your partner as a chakra fruit
Revised FACT: There are 2 Rikudou Sennin, Kaguya the rabbit goddess's twins: Hagoromo and Hamura
Nagato's plotline was from a time where the end plot was not fully established yet. It is where Hagoromo and Hamura were practically nonexistent, just an idea that is not fully developed, let alone established. So at the end of the series, we cannot take anything that was INTRODUCED during the Nagato plotline as is. Things were not as they seem.
Hell, even at the end, it was still the case. We see Kaguya without Tenseigan, yet Hamura got them and Toneri awakened his. This storytelling conflicted because the movie was being kept under wraps.
"BUT UZUMAKI IS SENJU IS MANGA FACTS" by some no-brained dumbass
It isn't. It is nowhere shown nor said that they were.
It is IMPLIED that they were DURING the Rikudou Sennin plotline. This was overturned when Kaguya became the ultimate being; Rikudou Sennin became Hagoromo and Hamura; and Naruto became Asura's transmigrant instead.
NEW AND FAR MORE DEVELOPED FACTS AND EVIDENCE:
similarities and carbon copy parallels.
Toneri's plotline is Madara's plotline
Toneri (pre Tenseigan) is Naruto.
Kinshiki has chakra armaments like the Uzumaki chains
Momoshiki's plotline is Kaguya's.
Here we have a Yin awakening the Rinne doujutsu and a Yang awakening Tenseigan.
Toneri having the same abilities as Naruto.
Symbolism throughout the Otsutsuki ark (from end of Naruto to the 2 movies to Boruto).
Yin = black/dark/spirit/mental/feminine/negative/mind/intangible (simply Rinnegan and Sage tattoos)
Yang = white/light/reality/physical/masculine/positive/body/tangible (Tenseigan and Chakra whatever)
duality = partnered up with oppposites.
Hagoromo = Hamura
Uchiha + Senju + Uzumaki? NONONO... There's no duality there. Uchihas do not have other split clans. Senjus do not have split clans. Hyugas do not have split clans.
There are no branch clans with other names. There are no statements that say Uzumaki is a branch. Nor was it ever shown.
Which means, new facts and evidences refute the Uzumaki are Senju theory.
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