Why do fans stereotype the Uchiha based on 4 - 5 Uchihas?

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So many people (especially Uchiha fans) seem to stereotype Uchihas mainly based on the big 4: Madara, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi

I have seen comments on this base such as:

"Uchihas tend to be a lot like Indra in personality, Obito was an anomaly"
"Uchihas inherit the solo"
"An Uchiha couldn't be a jinchuuriki because their emotional sides would make them give into the beasts hatred"
( long before her fight with Buntan) "Sarada is nothing like what an Uchiha should be (cool, collected, arrogant, calculative, etc...)"
(after her fight with Buntan) "She is a true Uchiha now"
etc...


The people who say this stuff don't seem to realize that there were many more way less prominent Uchihas (when I say less prominent, I mean both in and out of universe) in shinobi history.

What's worse, is that these people fail to realize just how much more special that Madara, Obito, and Sasuke are than most other Uchihas (when it comes to power and even personality to some degree).


Let's talk about some of these stereotypes:

1. "Uchihas tend to be like Indra. They are emo and arrogant other things."

My counter: I can name so many more Uchihas that were not like Indra.

Sarada
Shisui
Kagami
Mikoto
That elderly couple in the Uchiha district
Izumi
Fugaku (you may argue that staging a coup is Indra - like, but there is a difference. The Uchiha clan were wrongfully sectioned off from the village and accused of an attack that they did not carry out. Fugaku was just trying to defend his clan from genuine injustice. That is different from starting a centuries long war because "boo hoo papa didn't choose me to be the leader")

Itachi wasn't really Indra-like either to be honest.
etc...

This stereotype is made even worse when you realize that even the main ones (Madara, Obito and Sasuke) weren't "emo" or "evil" or anything like that at their base natures.

Madara was initially a nice boy that just wanted the warring to stop. He liked skipping rocks and was willing to befriend anyone regardless of clan (as evidenced by the fact that he befriended Hashirama).

He only started to display those stereotypical "Uchiha traits" because of the combination of a number of factors, which include:
The deaths of all of his brothers.
Tobirama snooping around, essentially preparing for his oppression of the Uchiha
Black Zetsu's manipulation via the stone tablet


Moving on to Obito: He was a kind boy with a heart of gold. He stopped at nothing to help the elderly or to save comrades. He was much like Naruto. Even with the Indra Asura comparisons, Obito was more like the Asura to Kakashi's Indra.

He only started to display the sterotypical qualities once he met Madara and once Rin died shortly thereafter.

Sasuke was an innocent young boy who looked up to his big brother and dreamed of joining the police force. He only changed when said brother murdered their entire family!


As you can see, those stereotypical qualities aren't even really "Uchiha" qualities. They are just qualities that arise in victims of circumstance.


Even worse, is the fact that two of the main Uchihas that these stereotypes are based upon...

are acutal reincarnations of Indra! It makes sense that those two in particular would be at least somewhat like Indra. These two are not a good basis to judge the whole clan on.

Stereotype number 2: "Uchihas solo"

My response: No! Madara solos. Obito solos. Sasuke solos. Itachi solos. Sarada solos.

The whole clan though? Well let's take a look shall we.

We only know of one opponent that Izuna Uchiha ever had: Tobirama Senju
Well how did that end up? It ended up with Izuna getting soloed and killed by Tobirama!

Does Izuna solo then? (by feats, because I know he had hype, but we know how that goes *cough cough Hiruzen*)


What about these fodders discussed on these wiki pages (they are all canon Uchihas by the way):





All we know them to have done in terms of combat feats is get beat up one sidedly by Itachi. Even if it was another Uchiha that beat them up, if these 3 had the famed solo qualities, then you would think that they could at least match Itachi, and they actually should have beaten him since it was 3 on 1. Do they portray the Uchiha solo qualities?


Did Kagami show the Uchiha solo qualities? There was only one chance for us to see him potentially offer to fight, and that was against the Kinkaku force. Yet Kagami stayed silent, and it was Hiruzen, and then Tobirama that offered to go. If Uchihas automatically solo, then why didn't Kagami go (or at least offer)? Why didn't he protest Hiruzen's claim that he was the strongest one there?



Even for someone as hyped as Shisui, what solos does he have?

We know Danzou was able to take his right eye.
Apparently he and Itachi also got beat up by some old byakugan guy in Itachi Shinden (someone else may know more about that than me though since I don't have access to that book).

I see him getting soloed, but where are his solos?



Do you see what I mean by the stereotyping?

Why don't people just fan (or hate) specific Uchihas, instead of singing the praises of the whole clan when we only know those praises to be true for about 5 (out of thousands)?


This is why I always say that I am a fan of Madara, Obito, Sasuke, and Sarada has been growing on me, but you will never hear me say that I am an Uchiha fan.

What are your thoughts on this matter?
 

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The problem is that we don't have many other Uchiha's to go off of. I wouldn't say the Uchiha are "emo", they actually do a pretty good job of keeping composure despite the storm brewing underneath their calm demeanor. Considering the fact that the Uchiha didn't even live together until after the Nine-Tails attack, it's unlikely they'd all be similar.

Your point is valid nonetheless.
 

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It's probably cause the Uchiha Clan is one of the strongest Clan's in the verse.
 

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Because all the Uchiha's we've gotten an in-depth view on all acted in the same manner, and had practically the same personalities.

However, those points you've brought up give a completely different light on that matter.

I have to agree that Madara and Sasuke are monumentally why the Uchiha are erroneously viewed as pessimistic or as if too emotionally incarcerated.

Luckily, we have quite a handful of Uchiha that displayed a greater side to the clan and what it could have been had it not been the austere situation into which they had been sordidly plunged.

Sasuke had to lose his entire family for him to become so detached and somewhat uncaring, and even then, Itachi had to continually push his buttons until he eventually succumbed to a vindictive fate. So, essentially he was shaped by circumstance, not by some trait, and Uchiha's were unfortunately never at peace. They always had some hassle to surmount. Before Konoha was established, there was the war between them and the Senju, and when that had been resolved, Tobirama yet again reopened their skepticism. And this was because Tobirama wouldn't trust them as Hashirama had, and ironically, Tobirama has a lot of the Uchiha's stereotypical attributes.

Madara also has some justifiable reasons. Obito, not so much, but it took him quite a lot before he gave in, and he was manipulated by Madara.

In fact, all Uchiha's have been unlucky to be surrounded by character's that wanted to manipulate them.

Indra was manipulated by Black Zetsu. Madara was indirectly manipulated by Black Zetsu through the stone tablet, Sasuke by Itachi and Obito by Madara.

So in austerity, they're victims of Black Zetsu orchestrated plan for Infinite Tsukuyomi. Which, frankly, would mean we'd have more characters like kid Obito, Kagami, Shisui, Sarada, etc. if the story had not been centered around the Uchiha, since plot required that they'd be felonious at heart.

The stereotype really stems from a big misinterpretation, and Madara, Sasuke and Obito are sadly to be faulted. Albeit, they're part of why this series is so famous anyway.
 
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it's because even though this website been around for over 7 years, people still incorrectly use "an" instead of "a" when referring to Uchiha.

I know in school you're taught to use "an" before a vowel, but when the vowel is phonetically pronounced as a consonant, ( as in YU-chi-ha) you must use "a."
 

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I dont agree with all the steteotypes posted but i wouod say personality stereotype of uchihas is pretty common
 
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Cuz they solo.
 

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I dont agree with all the steteotypes posted but i wouod say personality stereotype of uchihas is pretty common

How is it common?

Shisui was nothing like the stereotype.
Kagami was nothing like it.
Sarada is not like it.
Mikoto was not like it.
Fugaku was not like it.
Itachi wasn't really like it (his showing of it was more of an act that he carried on for 8+ years)

Even kid Obito, kid Madara and kid Sasuke weren't like it.

etc... The only ones who were really like the stereotype were Sasuke (after his family was murdered), Madara (family dead, Tobirama snooping around, and Black Zetsu manipulation), Obito (Madara manipulation), and Itachi (just acting).

4 Uchihas who didn't really have this as their base nature don't really make these traits common.

Cuz they solo.

Even Izuna? Who did he solo?
Who did Yashiro solo?
What about Tekka?
How about Inabi?

Heck, who has Shisui soloed?


Cuz they sexy.

Even this dude?

Uchiha are potentially too dangerous.

Aren't all shinobi potentially too dangerous? I mean even Sakura can cause earthquakes with a punch. Think about all the devastation she could do to cities and towns.
 

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How is it common?

Shisui was nothing like the stereotype.
Kagami was nothing like it.
Sarada is not like it.
Mikoto was not like it.
Fugaku was not like it.
Itachi wasn't really like it (his showing of it was more of an act that he carried on for 8+ years)

Even kid Obito, kid Madara and kid Sasuke weren't like it.

etc... The only ones who were really like the stereotype were Sasuke (after his family was murdered), Madara (family dead, Tobirama snooping around, and Black Zetsu manipulation), Obito (Madara manipulation), and Itachi (just acting).

4 Uchihas who didn't really have this as their base nature don't really make these traits common.



Even Izuna? Who did he solo?
Who did Yashiro solo?
What about Tekka?
How about Inabi?

Heck, who has Shisui soloed?




Even this dude?



Aren't all shinobi potentially too dangerous? I mean even Sakura can cause earthquakes with a punch. Think about all the devastation she could do to cities and towns.

Everyone it's a reason why they was still considered strongest in Konoha. And :lol Shisui was literally feared for his power along with Itachi.
 

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Everyone it's a reason why they was still considered strongest in Konoha. And :lol Shisui was literally feared for his power along with Itachi.

I never said that they weren't feared or considered the strongest in Konoha. However, that alone doesn't mean that every member of the clan soloed.

When I say these things, I am going based on known feats (known to the readers), not hype. I'm well aware of Shisui's hype and the fear his name brought about, but going by known feats he (and a number of other hyped Uchihas) doesn't have the best track record. Don't forget: Hiruzen also had such hype, but look how that turned out.

I reiterate: Who did Izuna solo? We (the readers) only know of one opponent that Izuna ever had, and that was Tobirama. That ended up in Tobirama soloing Izuna (not the other way around).

Same goes for Shisui. I can think of one majorly known conflict that we know Shisui to have had, and that ended up in him losing his right eye. Even for a lesser known conflict, I heard that he and Itachi got soloed by some old byakugan wielder in Itachi Shinden. Where are Shisui's solos though?

Do you see what I'm saying? I'm sure that just about all of these Uchihas have had their share of off screen unknown solos that have generated their hype, but if we are going to hype people over solos that they have most likely gotten off screen, then we might as well stop chastising people like Naruto for never killing or soloing anybody since I'm pretty sure Naruto (and just about every other decent ninja) has soloed tons of fodders in off screen, unknown about, filler- type missions. Heck, if you watch part 1 filler, you'll see that even the likes of Hinata, Kiba and Shino have soloed their share of fodders. Yet those people get chastised and deemed fodder based on having little to no wins in the actual manga.
 

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How is it common?

Shisui was nothing like the stereotype.
Kagami was nothing like it.
Sarada is not like it.
Mikoto was not like it.
Fugaku was not like it.
Itachi wasn't really like it (his showing of it was more of an act that he carried on for 8+ years)

Even kid Obito, kid Madara and kid Sasuke weren't like it.

etc... The only ones who were really like the stereotype were Sasuke (after his family was murdered), Madara (family dead, Tobirama snooping around, and Black Zetsu manipulation), Obito (Madara manipulation), and Itachi (just acting).

4 Uchihas who didn't really have this as their base nature don't really make these traits common.



Even Izuna? Who did he solo?
Who did Yashiro solo?
What about Tekka?
How about Inabi?

Heck, who has Shisui soloed?




Even this dude?



Aren't all shinobi potentially too dangerous? I mean even Sakura can cause earthquakes with a punch. Think about all the devastation she could do to cities and towns.

They are psychologically dangerous.
 

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They are psychologically dangerous.

Including Sarada? Kagami? Shisui? Mikoto? The old couple that was selling sweets?

Any shinobi given enough power and motivation is psychologically dangerous.

Can you honestly tell me that Tsunade could not be dangerous if she decided to rampage?
 

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Wasn't the Uchiha clan as an aggregate still one of the strongest clans in history? I mean abusing iznagi and izanami made them ruthlessly strong. Whenever a clam heard even a single Uchiha was passing by they dipped to my knowledge
 
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