[Discussion] Why Did'nt Itachi...

[AmaniPaz]

Plot no jutsu lol.

 

[Thefatsteak]

I'm thinking that this can only be done using a byakugan. Perhaps when a doujutsu is used its chakra signature gets larger and then it gets remembered. Hinata may never have seen Kakashi use his sharingan before and therefore did not have a good read on his eye's chakra signature, especially considering Kakashi's chakra could smother the eye's chakra because the signature of an entire body is undoubtedly stronger than an eye

 

[WhistleBlower]

ask kishi this question, he created the manga naruto!!

 

[thegame]

So here is my response for your thread:

I believe it is an interesting aspect to take, but I do have a few questions, since I'm very skeptical:

1. Where does it say that Obito/Madara trained Itachi?
2. Is there any evidence that Itachi saw Obitos sharingan BEFORE he met Kakashi?

We know he saw his sharingan since he was able to set ameterasu off from sasuke on contact with obitos eye, however, when did he see it, I can believe it would be before the uchiha massacre, but is there any evidence?

Also Ao could recognize shisuis eye because he had seen it before (with his byakugan). Sharingan shouldn't be able to see it, also he had to have seen Obitos mangekyou sharingan, since the 3-tomoe is the same for every sharingan, meaning it shouldn't be recognizable, when he met Kakashi he hadn't MS.

So I don't really think there would be evidence supporting this after all.

 

[Bloodytaste]

possible, i thought that maybe the Artifical Body of Hashirama, made it hard for non Chakra Sensor to rekognize this signuture.
Obitos Body seems to be fully made of Zetsu. I do not think, that its only the right side anymore, i guess his whole Body was melted with it, after Minato hit Obito hard. We can see that, when Obito fought Danzous men, he just throw of his left arm. So we can say his nearly full body and chakra is manipulated and changed. I mean Kakashi also could not identify Obitos chakra signature. So The mask made by Zetsu material, could also make others fool~ So if we think about this, then there was no way for itachi to analyse obitos Signature. I mean he was trained by Obito, when he was like 13 years old, even for Itachi it would not be easy to differ chakra that good. He lives with Sasuke many years so he nearly knows ever detail and his chakra is familiar, how long did he knew Obito? Maybe some Months? Afterwards, they seem not to have contact anymore. So he could not see that kakashis sharingan chakra signature was Obitos.

Guess that would be the most logical explaination. Hashirama Body + Itachi not having spend much time with Obito.

 

[Whiteknight]

I was going through some old manga chapters and something struck me as kinda odd. Why did'nt Itachi recognize Kakashi's sharingan as being Tobi/Obito's?

And let's not forget Sasuke. Sasuke spent more time looking at both Tobi and Kakashi than Itachi did, and he never once mentioned a similarity either. Kakashi himself has a sharingan and used it to look at Tobi, and he didn't recognize it as Obito's chakra (although Kakashi probably didn't look at Obito's corpse long enough to get a good reading of his chakra color).

Sasuke has looked at both Tobi and Zetsu together, and never mentioned that the two had similar chakra (even though Obito's chakra network should be 50% zetsu).

None of the Hyuuga in the war have mentioned that Zetsu's chakra looks anything like Yamato's, even though both should be strongly derived from a very unique source: Hashirama.

There are several problems with this, where Kishi has set several people up as being capable of seeing innermost identity, and then having the main antagonist being somebody familiar who is hiding behind a simple mask.

 

[Codex]

So here is my response for your thread:

I believe it is an interesting aspect to take, but I do have a few questions, since I'm very skeptical:

1. Where does it say that Obito/Madara trained Itachi?
2. Is there any evidence that Itachi saw Obitos sharingan BEFORE he met Kakashi?

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[thegame]

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Well that is very interesting, I really hope we will find out, whether Itachi was lying or not, guess I totally forgot that part or something. Anyway it probably wasn't 'the' Uchiha Madara, if it really happened

 

[supino]

Well that is very interesting, I really hope we will find out, whether Itachi was lying or not, guess I totally forgot that part or something. Anyway it probably wasn't 'the' Uchiha Madara, if it really happened

he probably knew of Madara, but the person he knew was not Madara... unless there is sth else and Kishi hasn't revealed it yet; for example, it is odd in my pov how normally Itachi spoke to Nagato as if he already knew who the guy was... but it seemed that nobody knew the secret behind Pain but for Obito, Zetsu and Konan. it is irrelevant to the current topic, but nonetheless interesting.

 

[soggysombrero]

whats really weird is that kisame said it was the 2nd time he saw a sharingan when it should be the third.

but lets me honest

when naruto and sasuke met fists at the birdge after the sasuke danzo fight and naruto was like our positions could be switched
with then a pic of naruto with chidori and sasuke with rasengan going at it

in the real truth obito is naruto gone bad

both lost everything they loved, naruto's will of fire helped him become a better person for the people he still loved

but obito let his hatred take him over and became this villain we see now with a mask
its the age old elder/younger son argument love/peace

thats it lol

 

[Codex]

whats really weird is that kisame said it was the 2nd time he saw a sharingan when it should be the third.

Indeed, that is a bit weird, but I can think of two possible explanations:
1) He was covering up the fact that he had been in contact with Madara/TObito/whoever it was because he didn't want Itachi to know about it.
2) in the translation i read (

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), Kisami's exact statement is "This is the second time I've seen another sharingan." Depending on how nit-picky you want get with the grammar (assuming the translation is reliable), this could be interpreted as the second time he's seen a sharingan in addition to Tobi's. In other words, Itachi's was the first time he saw another sharingan (making that the second sharingan he's seen), and Sasuke was the second. That's a bit of a reach, but...

Well that is very interesting, I really hope we will find out, whether Itachi was lying or not, guess I totally forgot that part or something. Anyway it probably wasn't 'the' Uchiha Madara, if it really happened

Yeah, Kishi has really done a great job giving us so much information, while simultaneously give us so little. It seems that the villains are the only ones who know jack about the world, and everything they say is potentially a lie. Why are the good guys so fricken stupid? Itachi is perhaps the only exception, but he was lying through his teeth playing the part of villain.