Why did the Uchiha weaken so much after coming from Indra?

[DarkStar1]

Indra was an amazing warrior. He inherited his own badass dojutsu, Hagoromo's amazing chakra and genius, he had a massive PS with no eye surgery or deterioration, he didn't Bijuu chakra to use Indra's Arrow as pointed out in a separate thread. Indra was also a great match for Ashura, both having to press themselves to the max and destroying their bodies in battle. He may have lost the war as Hagoromo said, but he did it valiantly.


The Uchiha, bar Itachi-sama, can make no such claims largely. They steadily try to steal DNA from the superior Senju clan, Ashura's descendants. VERY few even have the ability to awaken the MS, and they have to switch eyes and use the power of butthurt to attain the same power that Indra got with his lone wolf stylisms.


Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS, which Indra's latest descendant could not do until he was given a Rinnegan with tomoe and godlike Yin chakra to boot. How did Indra, his transmigrants, and his clan descendants become so weak from such a perfect fighter?

 

[Narutohokage324]

They get power ups by becoming emotional. Shounen FTW

 

[BLAZE]

Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS,

My sides
Rikudo chakra goes fishing Lol

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Indra's spouse is the predecessor of Sakura Haruno

 

[lndra]

I always laugh when people say that Sasuke inherited Indra's true self. Sasuke has not done shit by himself until he got EMS/Rinnegan. Even then he was still being aided by Itachi and so forth.

Even Madara got played around with by Hashirama. Using Kurama Lol

weaklings

 

[Styles]

Yet the manga said uchiha and Senju was the strongest clans. And Uchiha's was the only ones to fight on par with the Senju.

 

[DarkStar1]

Indra's spouse is the predecessor of Sakura Haruno

This is a strong possibility

I always laugh when people say that Sasuke inherited Indra's true self. Sasuke has not done shit by himself until he got EMS/Rinnegan. Even then he was still being aided by Itachi and so forth.

Even Madara got played around with by Hashirama. Using Kurama Lol

weaklings

Exactly.

The Uchiha are not lone wolves nor have they accomplished anything alone. They all wanked off Senju DNA or Tailed Beasts, which is supposed to be Ashura and Naruto's flag to carry, cooperation and all that. I just wonder how they fell so hard.

 

[DarkStar1]

Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS,

My sides
Rikudo chakra goes fishing Lol

Nothing you post ever makes sense, the f*ck is wrong with you?

Fact is, DMS Kakashi is a tier above Rinnegan Sasuke using the same chakra. Let it sink in and let the anger go.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Why did the senju weaken so much from ashura

 

[BLAZE]

Nothing you post ever makes sense, the f*ck is wrong with you?

Fact is, DMS Kakashi is a tier above Rinnegan Sasuke using the same chakra. Let it sink in and let the anger go.

My Sides Lol

 

[Zee U]

The Uchihas were, along the Senjus, the strongest clan of the... whole planet? Did you see people mention Hyugas, Akimichis, whatever shit when talking about Senjus or Uchihas? No, because they were on a whole another different level. Stop comparing average Uchihas to Indra. Were average Senjus as strong as Ashura? Let's take a look at Madara, a transmigrant. How much strong was he, as kid? So strong he was capable of destroying adult Senjus. A kid. No Sharingan, no borrowed powers or twisted shit like that. Him and Izuna were the strong Uchihas, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. They were the strongest two clans, no grasping at straws can help here. Heavily established by boring panels of portraying and hype. Dunno why am i even bothering, this doesn't pack a trace of sense.

 

[Umari Senju]

Why did the senju weaken so much from ashura

genetic mingling. Ashura/Indra are Otsusuki, they marry and procreate with someone who is not of their clan...Their child/children are only half otsusuki (Uchiha/Senju) as the generation go by and those half otsusuki procreate the genetic pool begins to weaken. and so forth.

 

[Umari Senju]

The Uchihas were, along the Senjus, the strongest clan of the... whole planet? Did you see people mention Hyugas, Akimichis, whatever shit when talking about Senjus or Uchihas? No, because they were on a whole another different level.

Stop comparing average Uchihas to Indra. Were average Senjus as strong as Ashura? Let's take a look at Madara, a transmigrant. How much strong was he, as kid? So strong he was capable of destroying adult Senjus. A kid. No Sharingan, no borrowed powers or twisted shit like that. Him and Izuna were the strong Uchihas, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. They were the strongest two clans, no grasping at straws can help here. Heavily established by boring panels of portraying and hype.

You are mistaken:

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by Madara's reaction to the mention of the Shimura and Sarutobi clans, Uchiha and Senju weren't the only powerful clans.

 

[Zee U]

You are mistaken:

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by Madara's reaction to the mention of the Shimura and Sarutobi clans, Uchiha and Senju weren't the only powerful clans.

Madara being surprised in that way doesn't necessarily mean those clans Hashi mentioned were strong. You are in fact assuming Madara was surprised due to the clans' strenght, but i can also assume those clans were important (and it's probable they were considering the positions Hiruzen and Danzou occupied in Konoha and Tobirama's team) in a political sense. Even if we take your argument for right, that still doesn't disprove my point: Uchiha and Senjus were the strongest.

 

[RavenAce]

Guess all that incest finally caught up with them.

 

[Bolt Rules]

Yes Itachi solos

 

[Umari Senju]

Madara being surprised in that way doesn't necessarily mean those clans Hashi mentioned were strong. You are in fact assuming Madara was surprised due to the clans' strenght, but i can also assume those clans were important (and it's probable they were considering the positions Hiruzen and Danzou occupied in Konoha and Tobirama's team) in a political sense. Even if we take your argument for right, that still doesn't disprove my point: Uchiha and Senjus were the strongest.

The fact that Hashirama mentioned them and not the other clans, and the fact that Madara was surprised to find they joined them suggests they weren't a nobody weakling clan either.

Not disputing the last part. You are doing what you said everyone else is doing, you are basing the entire clans strength based on Ashura/Indra transmigrants. The only reason we are to believe these 2 clans were the strongest was because Kishi only mainly revolved the story around these two clans.

Turns out they are the only clans with Otsusuki Blood. apparently so are the Hyuugas, then there are the Uzumaki who the entire Shinobi world turned against out of fear of their sealing jutsu alone.

Uchiha/Senju being the strongest clans are debatable

 

[Styles]

Nothing you post ever makes sense, the f*ck is wrong with you?

Fact is, DMS Kakashi is a tier above Rinnegan Sasuke using the same chakra. Let it sink in and let the anger go.

Lol Bruh what.

You are mistaken:

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by Madara's reaction to the mention of the Shimura and Sarutobi clans, Uchiha and Senju weren't the only powerful clans.

Lol maybe he was surprised that they was gonna join as a rival clan who knows.

 

[Solo Arrow]

Nothing you post ever makes sense, the f*ck is wrong with you?

Fact is, DMS Kakashi is a tier above Rinnegan Sasuke using the same chakra. Let it sink in and let the anger go.

Kakashi stands no chance against sasuke. He was only able to use sharingan for a few minutes and had to have Sakura carry him around after.

 

[Amaterasu]

This is a strong possibility


Exactly.

The Uchiha are not lone wolves nor have they accomplished anything alone. They all wanked off Senju DNA or Tailed Beasts, which is supposed to be Ashura and Naruto's flag to carry, cooperation and all that. I just wonder how they fell so hard.

Well, Sasuke never had Senju DNA nor Beasts before the Madara incident