Why did the Uchiha weaken so much after coming from Indra?

[Phoenix110]

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[KingHashirama]

So you think Sasuke's indra arrow = Indra's arrow?

Does Rasengan of Naruto = Minato's rasengan?

 

[Goetia]

Loving the Noob Saibot set.

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Blood diluted...ages of peace did not warrant training for war and battle. Madara and Sasuke were probably the strongest Uchiha since Indra.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Non-Uchihas like Kakashi can use the Mangekyo Sharingan the same way non-Senju/Uzumaki can learn Sage Mode.

And the Uchiha were strong, Sasuke, Obito, Shisui, Itachi were all capable of giving Kages a run for their money even though they weren't in their prime. U_U


The Ashura/Indra concept was applied to their lineage. One side is consistently strong (Obito, Shisui, Itachi) but rarely amazing (Madara/Sasuke) whereas the other side is consistently average (Tsunade, her brother, Tobirama) but extremely amazing on the rare occasions. (Hashirama/Naruto) :hmm:

 

[Icelerate]

Gene dilution.

 

[Sageflash]

Gene dilution, mental state eroding after so many losses to Ashura and the Senju, and as pointed out by Hagoromo, the progeny doesn't necessarily inherit their parent's strengths.

 

[shelke]

Indra was an amazing warrior. He inherited his own badass dojutsu, Hagoromo's amazing chakra and genius, he had a massive PS with no eye surgery or deterioration, he didn't Bijuu chakra to use Indra's Arrow as pointed out in a separate thread. Indra was also a great match for Ashura, both having to press themselves to the max and destroying their bodies in battle. He may have lost the war as Hagoromo said, but he did it valiantly.


The Uchiha, bar Itachi-sama, can make no such claims largely. They steadily try to steal DNA from the superior Senju clan, Ashura's descendants. VERY few even have the ability to awaken the MS, and they have to switch eyes and use the power of butthurt to attain the same power that Indra got with his lone wolf stylisms.

Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS, which Indra's latest descendant could not do until he was given a Rinnegan with tomoe and godlike Yin chakra to boot. How did Indra, his transmigrants, and his clan descendants become so weak from such a perfect fighter?

@Bold Where is this badly written fiction stemming from? Asking for a coherent thread from the likes of you ... well, it's asking too much. All of them trying to steal Senju DNA? Please, let's see that long list you have compiled from hard manga evidence. Only Uchihas' blood-line was thinned? Oh dear me. That Naruto diehard's heart tripping at this romance is talking again.

Garbage thread.

P.s:

his lone wolf stylisms

What does that even mean? This was just an icing on the cake, given the rest of the piled up garbage.

 

[Xlad]

It's obviously because of bloodline thinning. Why did Ashura had a similar looking ability as Naruto, but the former didn't need Tailed Beast chakra? Because of bloodline thinning.

 

[Ansatsuken]

What 5 posters above stated^^^^^

Cant you think about that OP.

 

[Conspirator.]

Indra was an amazing warrior. He inherited his own badass dojutsu, Hagoromo's amazing chakra and genius, he had a massive PS with no eye surgery or deterioration, he didn't Bijuu chakra to use Indra's Arrow as pointed out in a separate thread. Indra was also a great match for Ashura, both having to press themselves to the max and destroying their bodies in battle. He may have lost the war as Hagoromo said, but he did it valiantly.


The Uchiha, bar Itachi-sama, can make no such claims largely. They steadily try to steal DNA from the superior Senju clan, Ashura's descendants. VERY few even have the ability to awaken the MS, and they have to switch eyes and use the power of butthurt to attain the same power that Indra got with his lone wolf stylisms.


Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS, which Indra's latest descendant could not do until he was given a Rinnegan with tomoe and godlike Yin chakra to boot. How did Indra, his transmigrants, and his clan descendants become so weak from such a perfect fighter?

The bit about Kakashi is wrong. He had Rikudo chakra from Obito, which is why he could awaken it with "just MS", and the others(Uchihas) couldn't. With that being said, Indra is above all the Uchiha's without Rikudo chakra. The reason being that he was Hagaromo's son, and inherited his strong chakra genes directly. His blood thinned throughout the generations, hence why his reincarnations are weaker than he is, without Rikudo powers obviously.

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Ouch! Butthurtness

 

[King Of Pop]

skimmed through the op and found some nonsense. not surprised given the idiocy of the poster.

=DarkStar1;18648599]Indra was an amazing warrior. He inherited his own badass dojutsu, Hagoromo's amazing chakra and genius, he had a massive PS with no eye surgery or deterioration,

he inherited rikudous chakra, same chakra that hoaxed up Naruto and sasuke, same chakra that allowed kakashi use ps with only MS, no shit indra would have ps as well.

he didn't Bijuu chakra to use Indra's Arrow as pointed out in a separate thread.

actually when you can prove that he had indras arrow then we can talk. theres really no evidence he had it and no his name being the name of the technique isnt proof. sasuke could have just named it after him his ancestor or after the God of lightning indra and even he does, no evidence it would be anywere as powerful as the one of bijju ps. but if am missing something then you can show me.

Indra was also a great match for Ashura, both having to press themselves to the max and destroying their bodies in battle. He may have lost the war as Hagoromo said, but he did it valiantly.

vote madara was a great match for hashirama and pushed him to his limits like wise with sasuke who never actually lost a physical battle with ashuras reincarnate. kicked his ass many times.

The Uchiha, bar Itachi-sama, can make no such claims largely.

yes they can

They steadily try to steal DNA from the superior Senju clan, Ashura's descendants.

generalising the whole clan off one man, seems legit. doesnt change the fact that they matched the senjus, were said to be the strongest alongside the senjus, canoncally stated to be the most feaered clan in the village. no senju dna

VERY few even have the ability to awaken the MS, and they have to switch eyes and use the power of butthurt to attain the same power that Indra got with his lone wolf stylisms.

give them rikudous chakra like indra and they would do the same, or the skilled ones would. your argument is invalid as the chakra diluted as generations passed by. if a non uchiha like kakashi can excel with the chakra, no reason why skilled uchihas wont do the same.

Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu

only in your fail opinion. his prociency is not better than the main uchiha.

as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS,

with rikudous chakra which no other ms uchiha had access to at least the soosano users. give them same chakra and they would do the exact same thing. not to mention obito literally possessed the guy, giving him his chakra. lets see kakashi do that with his own chakra..

which Indra's latest descendant could not do until he was given a Rinnegan with tomoe and godlike Yin chakra to boot.

keep failing as manga showed him forming a ps With his Ems, much before his rinnegan, same with madara. not that i expect anything less from you though

How did Indra, his transmigrants, and his clan descendants become so weak from such a perfect fighter?

-noted to be among 2 strongest clans around
-clown says they became weak.

seems legit.

they obv became weaker compared to him(non rikudou) because of dilution, but not being as strong as him doesnt mean weak in general.

 

[ChrisWolf]

Indra was an amazing warrior. He inherited his own badass dojutsu, Hagoromo's amazing chakra and genius, he had a massive PS with no eye surgery or deterioration, he didn't Bijuu chakra to use Indra's Arrow as pointed out in a separate thread. Indra was also a great match for Ashura, both having to press themselves to the max and destroying their bodies in battle. He may have lost the war as Hagoromo said, but he did it valiantly.


The Uchiha, bar Itachi-sama, can make no such claims largely. They steadily try to steal DNA from the superior Senju clan, Ashura's descendants. VERY few even have the ability to awaken the MS, and they have to switch eyes and use the power of butthurt to attain the same power that Indra got with his lone wolf stylisms.


Biggest case and point is Kakashi Hatake. He is not Uchiha, yet he is easily the most proficient with his dojutsu as well as attaining the legendary PS with only MS, which Indra's latest descendant could not do until he was given a Rinnegan with tomoe and godlike Yin chakra to boot. How did Indra, his transmigrants, and his clan descendants become so weak from such a perfect fighter?

what is your ava and sig from?

 

[Fire Goddess]

Indra is truly a formidable God of combat, I'd bet he was very wise and good with strategy like Madara was. He truly is better than his descendants, but that does have to do with the fact he couldn't procreate with anyone else who inherited chakra.

I don't have chakra... LOL but still

 

[KingHashirama]

Because indra himself was a peasent in front of Ashura.

Madara > Indra, as far skills go.


PS: Gene dilution is a shitty reason in naruto-verse.

 

[Fire Goddess]

Because indra himself was a peasent in front of Ashura.

Madara > Indra, as far skills go.


PS: Gene dilution is a shitty reason in naruto-verse.

Peasant, how so? Money is of no importance, so what are you talking about? (Just because Indra and I share a bank account LOL jk )

If genes are not the reason for Indra being stronger than his descendants, what is another possibility for this? I'm curious

 

[KingHashirama]

Peasant, how so? Money is of no importance, so what are you talking about? (Just because Indra and I share a bank account LOL jk )

If genes are not the reason for Indra being stronger than his descendants, what is another possibility for this? I'm curious

Why is Hashirama stronger than those who came before him? Should be a peasent no?

Why is Hiruzen randomly the strongest Sarutobi we know??

How does Sasuke possess more powerful eyes than Madara?? (stated by Kurama himself)

So gene dilusion isn't the reason here mate. Idk why people say indra and Ashura possessed rikudou's chakra... when none of them are held in the highest regards within their own clans...

 

[Fire Goddess]

Why is Hashirama stronger than those who came before him? Should be a peasent no?

Why is Hiruzen randomly the strongest Sarutobi we know??

How does Sasuke possess more powerful eyes than Madara?? (stated by Kurama himself)

So gene dilusion isn't the reason here mate. Idk why people say indra and Ashura possessed rikudou's chakra... when none of them are held in the highest regards within their own clans...

But what is the a better idea, then? They are very strong, even if they are not acknowledged by their clans, this doesn't mean they were weak, they were so long ago, their own clans had no idea who they even were, and the Sage of the six paths was only stated as a myth, how could they be held in highest regards no one even knew of them. Sasuke could have more powerful eyes, but that doesn't make him a more powerful shinobi than Madara, Madara is actually more powerful. It's also manga fact, that Indra and Ashura possess Hagoromo's chakra, through inheritance. A peasent is someone who is poor...

 

[DroGGz0r]

Because indra himself was a peasent in front of Ashura.

Madara > Indra, as far skills go.


PS: Gene dilution is a shitty reason in naruto-verse.

People can't take you serious if you post shits like that.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Because Indra's genes got diluted as his descendants mated with non-So6P descendants. Duh.