Why did Sasuke hold back at Vote?

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Ah. You loose. THey are different eyes in this case. Nagato and Obito were both using Izuna's eyes, which would have the same powers. Sasuke was using Itachi's, whic would have different ones. You also seem to thing that the 6 paths are a set, you cannot have one without all the others. This isn't true, of course. They are just the powers used by Nagato.

How am I losing if the only thing you type is your own theory?
If Sasuke can use preta and outer, there isn't much to doubt that he can use the other paths too.

 

[SatanicGod]

AND even though he did get very familiar during his Kushina fight, Kishi NEVER said that Sasuke was 100% familiar. He didn't master it AND he only had one. Surely that has something to do with it, right?

But they were both his original eyes, Sasuke's only real excuse is lack of experience, since he, unlike Naruto, hasn't fought against many Rinnegan users

 

[Shruikan]

He clearly dosen't, since he didn't use them.

There is A panel in the manga where Madara is shown to say that Obito is trained in all 6 paths and Obito himself agreeing that he doesn't want to waste chakra on them

 

[Wparker6804]

But they are a set, it's the one constant about the Rinnegan

Sasuke didn't have a set, he had one. Obito never used the Deva, animal (except the Gedo), azura or preta path. He used the six paths technique, summoned the ghedo and used the outer path in a failed attempt to resurrect everyone who died.

If Obito had all of the paths, he would have used them--but he didn't. If he HAD possessed all of them why wouldn't he have? Sasuke and Obito only had one eye--Sasuke's WAS better, but that's because it was different.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

By that logic, Naruto doesn't have RSM anymore since he didn't use it in the Last. It also means he doesn't have Biju chakra anymore, since he only used Kyubi chakra in his final fight

Nope. Since that logic(your logic not mine) implies he lost it at some point in time.
My logic is he never had it since there is no evidence of it.

 

[SatanicGod]

How am I losing if the only thing you type is your own theory?
If Sasuke can use preta and outer, there isn't much to doubt that he can use the other paths too.

He also used Deva Path to create the CT's
and used Bansho Tenin to pull the CT's towards him

 

[Wparker6804]

But they were both his original eyes, Sasuke's only real excuse is lack of experience, since he, unlike Naruto, hasn't fought against many Rinnegan users

That's kindah the point I made here.

Is it me or did Sasuke only use the jutsu that he saw? He never saw Madara use the human, outer or azura path. But he did see deva, animal and preta path (and those are the ones he used)

 

[~Ethereal~]

He was nerfed, but not that much...I think the fight should have started when both got their rest.

 

[SatanicGod]

Nope. Since that logic(your logic not mine) implies he lost it at some point in time.
My logic is he never had it since there is no evidence of it.

You said, and I quote (literally)

He clearly dosen't, since he didn't use them.

he clearly doesn't (referring to Obito's ability to use the paths) because he didn't use them. When there is evidence saying that he could if he wanted to, such as the Human path, he said how he would use that to get the info out of Yamato, but he doesn't want to kill him

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There is A panel in the manga where Madara is shown to say that Obito is trained in all 6 paths and Obito himself agreeing that he doesn't want to waste chakra on them

How is madara gonna teach him all 6 pop jutsu when:
a)certain jutsu require rinne which neither had.
B)other jutsu (coat 4 example) require Yung yang which again neither had.
c) madara's limited his chair.



Either way both rinne=full power and obito only used 1. So he dosen't have all 6 pop techs.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Nope. Since that logic(your logic not mine) implies he lost it at some point in time.
My logic is he never had it since there is no evidence of it.

Alright but he has Chibaku Tensei but not human path? U_U

He also used Deva Path to create the CT's
and used Bansho Tenin to pull the CT's towards him

That's my point! :|

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

How is madara gonna teach him all 6 pop jutsu when:
a)certain jutsu require rinne which neither had.
B)other jutsu (coat 4 example) require Yung yang which again neither had.
c) madara's limited his chair.

Oh the same way Susanoo functions without eyes and absorbing Amaterasu without eyes as well.
But the manga stated this already, you using logic isn't going to change the facts

 

[SatanicGod]

Sasuke didn't have a set, he had one. Obito never used the Deva, animal (except the Gedo), azura or preta path. He used the six paths technique, summoned the ghedo and used the outer path in a failed attempt to resurrect everyone who died.

If Obito had all of the paths, he would have used them--but he didn't. If he HAD possessed all of them why wouldn't he have? Sasuke and Obito only had one eye--Sasuke's WAS better, but that's because it was different.

wait why am I trying to defend Obito, I came to defend Sasuke

 

[SatanicGod]

Alright but he has Chibaku Tensei but not human path? U_U


That's my point! :|

I was just adding on to your point lol not trying to refute it, and I think he has human path too, just was nerfed into not being able to use it due to inexperience and not knowing about it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You said, and I quote (literally)


he clearly doesn't (referring to Obito's ability to use the paths) because he didn't use them. When there is evidence saying that he could if he wanted to, such as the Human path, he said how he would use that to get the info out of Yamato, but he doesn't want to kill him

Is him implying human path evidence of the other paths? No.

Like I said he's not getting free 6 pop techs just for having 1 rinne that dosen't belong to him in his head. He can only use what he shown.

 

[Shruikan]

How is madara gonna teach him all 6 pop jutsu when:
a)certain jutsu require rinne which neither had.
B)other jutsu (coat 4 example) require Yung yang which again neither had.
c) madara's limited his chair.



Either way both rinne=full power and obito only used 1. So he dosen't have all 6 pop techs.

Manga has stated clearly that he has taught all 6 paths to Obito.Logic behind it is irrelevant as that is plot.it does not change the manga fact that he taught all 6 paths as he himself claimed.Otherwise Kishi would never have wrote the that panel

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh the same way Susanoo functions without eyes and absorbing Amaterasu without eyes as well.
But the manga stated this already, you using logic isn't going to change the facts

Susanoo is quite different from rinnegan techs considering madara went out of his way to get both to increase his jutsu capacity. Where as he used susanno without. Unless you're implying all ocular techs can be used without eyes Lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Manga has stated clearly that he has taught all 6 paths to Obito.Logic behind it is irrelevant as that is plot.it does not change the manga fact that he taught all 6 paths as he himself claimed.Otherwise Kishi would never have wrote the that panel

So show me proof of all 6 pop techs. Show me coat, rinne shift, and dimension shift. I'll wait.

 

[SatanicGod]

Is him implying human path evidence of the other paths? No.

Like I said he's not getting free 6 pop techs just for having 1 rinne that dosen't belong to him in his head. He can only use what he shown.

But Madara himself said that he taught Obito the six paths jutsu, that's why I think he can use them albeit on a lesser level than the original owner with both of his original eyes

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Susanoo is quite different from rinnegan techs considering madara went out of his way to get both to increase his jutsu capacity. Where as he used susanno without. Unless you're implying all ocular techs can be used without eyes Lol

Where is your counter to absorbing Amaterasu?
You disappoint me U_U

Down here, is the solo answer.

Manga has stated clearly that he has taught all 6 paths to Obito.Logic behind it is irrelevant as that is plot.it does not change the manga fact that he taught all 6 paths as he himself claimed.Otherwise Kishi would never have wrote the that panel