Why did Kisimoto give Naruto the easier opponents in the manga?

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You know they say "knowing your opponent" is half the battle. Considering Naruto's help was the frog summons, they could only do so much considering they were busy fighting Pain's summons.
I still can't stand it if someone says Naruto won feat-wise, which is simply not the case. In a fair 1on1, he would've lost so many times.. and when I compare characters, I do it only in a fair 1on1.

Naruto had the frogs that fought the summons, he had Jiraiya's intel in form of Fukasaku, he had a piece of Katsuyu for healing and intel, as well as Kurama and Minato of course. His advantage in this fight was enormous.
 

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Pain was pretty heavy as an opponent. But yeah, Naruto had a lot of help and Pain/Nagato already was exhausted after removing Konoha from the map. The problem is, most of Naruto's victories feel like a gift of god or something.

Basing all of his fights on one when Sasuke had help and literally died twice? Very intelligent post

OT: Your obviously someone's alt. Since you thought MS users could use PS, I don't think this is even worth responding to
 

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Naruto recieved more help in every fight than most main characters.
 

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I still can't stand it if someone says Naruto won feat-wise, which is simply not the case. In a fair 1on1, he would've lost so many times.. and when I compare characters, I do it only in a fair 1on1.

Naruto had the frogs that fought the summons, he had Jiraiya's intel in form of Fukasaku, he had a piece of Katsuyu for healing and intel, as well as Kurama and Minato of course. His advantage in this fight was enormous.

Yeah but if you think that way then you're missing the story's entire premise. It's not about taking everything on all on your own, it's about fighting together. If you go into this series thinking that fights should be won based on skill and individual ability then you'll lose every time. Itachi being the perfect example for this (overlooked every time because people are immature and worship him).

Itachi never won any of his battles if you think about it in a more broader context. You need to ask yourself what defines a winner. Itachi took on the burden of murdering his entire clan and branding himself a criminal for the sake of the village. True in the sense that it prevented civil war BUT at the cost of human lives? Is that not the premise of war? The very thing Itachi was trying to prevent?

People on this forum will look at this comment and condemn me for saying this but its true. The butterfly effect of this was that the massacre would inevitable drive his own brother down a path of vengeance and that's a lonely road. No one should ever have to be an avenger for anything because the sure outcome of that is war.

You look at Naruto's life and you can see the immediate contrast in both character and strength. That's why people hate him, because when they make a comparison thats usually based off a selfish premise.
 
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Only answering the question. Naruuto can never be in the solo gang

Who the hell wants to be in the lonely gang?

Isn't that an oxymoron since being "solo" means to be by yourself and "gang" implies there's a group of you?
 

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So a simple typo is all it takes to get a rise out of shadow clonebase. They get all A's in an introvert class
 

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So a simple typo is all it takes to get a rise out of shadow clonebase. They get all A's in an introvert class

Not exactly, you just prove how eager you are to defend your fanboyism to the point where you don't even bother checking your spelling and grammar.

It's rather pathetic if you ask me.
 

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So a simple typo is all it takes to get a rise out of shadow clonebase. They get all A's in an introvert class

Introvert? So does "solo" also imply that your favourite characters are also shy and very timid?

Where did the shadow clones touch you my boy?
 

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Not exactly, you just prove how eager you are to defend your fanboyism to the point where you don't even bother checking your spelling and grammar.

It's rather pathetic if you ask me.

It's pathetic when you attack someones grammar because you're desperate for an insult. Silly shadow clones.
 

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It's pathetic when you attack someones grammar because you're desperate for an insult. Silly shadow clones.

Not really pathetic, in fact it's a good thing I reminded you. Considering you've taken this quite seriously and there are no mistakes in your replies. You should thank me :)
 

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Not really pathetic, in fact it's a good thing I reminded you. Considering you've taken this quite seriously and there are no mistakes in your replies. You should thank me :)

You pathetic shadow clone your behavior is unsightly.
 

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It's pathetic when you attack someones grammar because you're desperate for an insult. Silly shadow clones.

I would also like to add that I don't see why you are a fanboy. I mean really, what's in it for you? A sense of belonging? Common ground with others? Is it really solo if you're in a group?
 

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You pathetic shadow clone your behavior is unsightly.

No, whats unsightly is that picture at the bottom of all your comments. What is that? Watercolour? You need to find whoever made that and shoot him.
 

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So a simple typo is all it takes to get a rise out of shadow clonebase. They get all A's in an introvert class

My comment obviously got deleted.

I'm only trolling you because you have get to say anything intelligent since you've joined
 

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My comment obviously got deleted.

I'm only trolling you because you have get to say anything intelligent since you've joined

you have get to say anything okay
 

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Yeah but if you think that way then you're missing the story's entire premise. It's not about taking everything on all on your own, it's about fighting together. If you go into this series thinking that fights should be won based on skill and individual ability then you'll lose every time.

Then just don't say things like "Naruto is/was stronger than X/Y", which is simply not the case. If someone wants to compare the power of two or more characters, then you only can look at skill and individual ability.

I'm fine with the teamwork-theme of the manga, but people also have to differ. This theme is no excuse to justify silly comparisons.
 
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