Why did Kishi ever try to maje Naruto stop all wars?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It was the entire point of Shippuden. If you don't see the virtue in that idea and how it connects to his ninja way from Part 1 then how did you even read to the end?

You've missed the entire point of the series just for some cheap Sasuke panels.

Shikamaru describes it clearly. Soon there will be no need for ninjas, and that's what he needed to get Kakashi & Naruto into office to achieve. The gradual demilitarisation of the NV is the end-game.

 

[LeSauce]

So its your fault in wording your title/Thread opener and now you keep saying I dont understand your point.

Dude I only focusing on the subject of war here and not about killing.

So there is nothing to discuss here as the actually subject changed. But before I leave, Yes killing will always happen in NV be it from Shinobi missions or personal interest.

But Naruto only goal is to stop a war between nations and unite them and not exterminating all evilness bcus he know he cant stop that. Also ending the hatred between all Nations(Governments) and not individual hatred beside wanting to be a Hokage.

Without war or with war killing mission can still happen. So the economy of Shinobi mission can still pump out a money for the country.

Ummm, no. If you read past the title it isn't hard to figure out that I was talking about their system, and not war alone.

His goal was to stop hatred and bring peace. To stop others from becoming like Nagato, Obito, and Sasuke. However, that will never happen as he failed to address the real issue.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ummm, no. If you read past the title it isn't hard to figure out that I was talking about their system, and not war alone.

His goal was to stop hatred and bring peace. To stop others from becoming like Nagato, Obito, and Sasuke. However, that will never happen as he failed to address the real issue.

Yes that's true. Thats why Kawaki exist. Bcus not evilness come from hatred.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Ummm, no. If you read past the title it isn't hard to figure out that I was talking about their system, and not war alone.

His goal was to stop hatred and bring peace. To stop others from becoming like Nagato, Obito, and Sasuke. However, that will never happen as he failed to address the real issue.

Read Shikamaru Hiden, then get back to us. Gengo, Zabuza and Shikamaru explain it all crystal clear. This thread has missed the point of the series to try and insult a fictional character.

 

[LeSauce]

It was the entire point of Shippuden. If you don't see the virtue in that idea and how it connects to his ninja way from Part 1 then how did you even read to the end?

You've missed the entire point of the series just for some cheap Sasuke panels.

Shikamaru describes it clearly. Soon there will be no need for ninjas, and that's what he needed to get Kakashi & Naruto into office to achieve. The demilitarisation of the NV is the end-game.

Guy, you're pulling stuff out of your butt. Chunin exams are well and alive, missions are still their source of money, people are still dying and villains are still being created.

The series ended with no change whatsoever.

Lmao, you're bringing filler into this? Smh.

And I ain't bashing Naruto, I'm bashing the guy who thought it was a good idea to give him that goal

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Guy, you're pulling stuff out of your butt. Chunin exams are well and alive, missions are still their source of money, people are still dying and villains are still being created.

The series ended with no change whatsoever.

Yes but even there, the purpose of the chunnin exams changed. The exams seen in Boruto are no longer to measure Nations power, otherwise the Kote device wouldn't have been banned. The Part 1 chunnin exams is FILLED with cheap, not-own-power bs victories, it doesn't matter because they're militarised kids who only care about victory, not sportsmanship. You can say the same about the Konohamaru/Naruto OVA if you like.

It's a traditional festival that all the Kage can watch over together as friends. The de-militarisation was stated to be a gradual process that has already more than begun.

 

[LeSauce]

Yes but even there, the purpose of the chunnin exams changed. The exams seen in Boruto are no longer to measure Nations power, otherwise the Kote device wouldn't have been banned. The Part 1 chunnin exams is FILLED with cheap, not-own-power bs victories, it doesn't matter because they're militarised kids who only care about victory, not sportsmanship. You can say the same about the Konohamaru/Naruto OVA if you like.

It's a traditional festival that all the Kage can watch over together as friends. The de-militarisation was stated to be a gradual process that has already more than begun.

Lol, dude. Tenten still out there selling weapons,

Show me 1 scan that states there is no missions, show me 1 scan that states that ninjas are stopping.

Please don't bring filler either

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Lol, dude. Tenten still out there selling weapons,

Show me 1 scan that states there is no missions, show me 1 scan that states that ninjas are stopping.

Please don't bring filler either

Lmao

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You mean that shop that has no customers? You're making my points for me man. Of course there are missions, but much less drastic ones. Do you not understand what gradual means?

 

[1000 Chirping Birds]

Lol, dude. Tenten still out there selling weapons,

Lmao

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You mean that shop that has no customers? You're making my points for me man. Of course there are missions, but much less drastic ones. Do you not understand what gradual means?

/thread

 

[LeSauce]

Lmao

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You mean that shop that has no customers? You're making my points for me man. Of course there are missions, but much less drastic ones. Do you not understand what gradual means?

She's still selling. Do you realize that? 15+ years and she's still in business.

Gradual my butt. There are no scans which state the end of the ninja.

If there was a change in the system why tf are kids still learning to kill? Why is TenTen still selling weapons?

Why are people still for hire, man? Your only proof seems to come from a filler book.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

She's still selling. Do you realize that? 15+ years and she's still in business.

Gradual my butt. There are no scans which state the end of the ninja.

If there was a change in the system why tf are kids still learning to kill? Why is TenTen still selling weapons?

Why are people still for hire, man? Your only proof seems to come from a filler book.

REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH for the stars

Tenten, and as a result Kishimoto literally spelled it out for you. Your topic ends there.

 

[Nick01]

Naruto's a success, and he succeeded his dream.

/Thread.

 

[LeSauce]

REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH for the stars

Tenten, and as a result Kishimoto literally spelled it out for you. Your topic ends there.

You serious?

The only way your point would make sense is if she was going out of business.

Is that your only piece of proof? Is that why your clinging to it? Show me a scan. Don't just tell me your interpretation.

All I see is the same. I don't see any change in how things are run, I don't see any change in how Ninjas make their money.

Show me how that's changed, then you have an argument

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

You serious?

The only way your point would make sense is if she was going out of business.

Is that your only piece of proof? Is that why your clinging to it? Show me a scan. Don't just tell me your interpretation.

All I see is the same. I don't see any change in how things are run, I don't see any change in how Ninjas make their money.

Show me how that's changed, then you have an argument

G R A D U A L D E M I L I T A R I S A T I O N

It's restated in the Shikamaru canon book but it's also the subtext of the entire Naruto series in Shippuden. As I said, you have misunderstood the point of Shippuden's messiah themes. That's fine, but please stop reaching and just leave a thread when it's done. I know that's what i'm doing right now.

 

[LeSauce]

G R A D U A L D E M I L I T A R I S A T I O N

It's restated in the Shikamaru canon book but it's also the subtext of the entire Naruto series in Shippuden. As I said, you have misunderstood the point of Shippuden's messiah themes. That's fine, but please stop reaching and just leave a thread when it's done. I know that's what i'm doing right now.

Guy, change is change no matter how small it is. There is no proof of your "gradualism". There is absolutely no change.

I'm asking you for a simple scan. I don't care what you think you saw through Shippuden. Prove it to me with a scan.

If it's sooo apparent, it should be easy to find.

Filler is filler

 

[Luminousi]

I don't think there was ever actually a situation where a mission was to straight up kill someone. The profit from the missions that usually comes down to either protection or assorted services. When they are trying to protect someone if another person threatens their life they are going to fight back. It's like a police officer, do they make their money from killing people?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I don't think there was ever actually a situation where a mission was to straight up kill someone. The profit from the missions that usually comes down to either protection or assorted services. When they are trying to protect someone if another person threatens their life they are going to fight back. It's like a police officer, do they make their money from killing people?

Well, if you live in America and wanna be cynical...

But yeah, this exactly. Shikamaru states how S & A rank missions are a rarity these days. The majority of their jobs are community service or beating up a wild panda. There's still bandits and outsiders, clinging to the previous era who hate change. But that's just it. They're the outsiders now rather than the norm. Thus: change made.