why count edo tensei when doing rankings?

KingHashirama

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Well here's the suggestion.
A shinobi is counted or ranked by the jutsu he got.and edo tensei is a jutsu.it's not summonian jutsu having distinctive emotions and feelings,it dont care about emotions and feelings but act as same what the users wants... So it is counted while doing rankings.

No a shinobi is ranked by his strength.. not the amount of jutsus.
 

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Edo tensei is the ONLY summoning where the user is in complete control... should toads and snakes not count then?

Summoning conscious people does not count as your own power.

Never said summoning should not count all i pointed out was the difference between edo tensi and what you stated. regular summons and edo tensi are different in how they operate. if you wanted to argue comparing toads and snakes to konan that would make sense because the toads and snakes and konan can all act on there own regardless of what the summoner says. however when someone is brought up through edo they become a tool to the caster the power of the binding of the jutsu. it is up to the caster weather they can eat sleep or shit. they are different and with edo you are puppets to the users will. He might be using other people jutsu but technically he is the one using the jutsu because he is the one giving the command for it to be done. Im not here to argue weather konan is an extension of pains power because he can summon her that hold no relevance in the comparison to edo tensi because edo tensi operates different then most summons. imo all summons should count as a users power. i see edo tensi should be deemed the casters power because of the ridiculous control that the caster has over what he summons to the point where it is literally like another part of them. Edo tensi is more like a kuni rather then other summons because of the amount of control he has over it.
 

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No a shinobi is ranked by his strength.. not the amount of jutsus.
Then by your logic tsunade should be first in top 10 considering she is the strongest in narutoverse? A character is ranked by everything: his taijutsu,ninjutsu,genjutsu and inteligence. Speed,strenght etc is included in taijutsu.
Considering that edo tensei is a NINJUTSU it is counted as Kabuto's power the same as toads are counted as Jiraiya's power. If you mark edo tensei as a tool then it is still counted as Kabuto's power the same as Samehada is a part of Kisame's power. It is a tool,but he is extraordinarily strong with it. And not to mention the rankings are made when characters are at their prime. Kabuto's prime is dragon sage+edo tensei. Saying that edo tensei doesnt count cause the characters would be alive is like saying that for instance Muu would beat the crap out of almost everyone just because when he was at his prime everyone else was a baby or not even born.
 

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Nope....they are a dead body being controlled. If anything it adds to the user's power (Kabuto).

Edo Madara, while he may have control over himself, wouldn't be capable of all that he is were it not for someone bringing him back as well as modifying his Edo summon so that he wasn't a decrepit old man.
Madara said countless times. Don't get the wrong idea, you didn't create this power.
 

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Madara said countless times. Don't get the wrong idea, you didn't create this power.

He didnt create it but he controlled it so it does count as his power. Naruto didnt create Kurama's powers but he controls it. Kurama is a part of Naruto's power,therefore Edo tensei is a part of Kabuto's power.
 

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Once again..
Is the third kazekage not part of Sasori's arsenal?


Yes it is...and so is edo tensei for kabuto and oro
 

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Once again..
Is the third kazekage not part of Sasori's arsenal?


Yes it is...and so is edo tensei for kabuto and oro
Thats a puppet of the 3rd Kazekage...... How can you not tell the difference?
 

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No a shinobi is ranked by his strength.. not the amount of jutsus.

oh i see where you mistook.., why not an shinobi is known by his jutsus? Minato known by his FTG, Madara known by his EMS(douJUTSU) and sasuke too. Itachi Tsukyomi same, hashirama moktoun no jutsu with out jutsu a shinobi is not a shinobi.it's like a rich man without education.
Barely wasting his money in vain.
 
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