Why couldn't Sasuke kill Naruto at VOTE 2?

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simply because he was trying to overwhelm naruto with sheer force and one does not simply beat naruto with brute power,an area of expertise naruto excels at

i was really hoping sasuke would fight more inteligently as it fits his style,was hoping for some genjutsu tactics,rinnegan paths but no.kishi just made it all about explosions and flashiness

he did the same with madara vs hashirama
 

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Haha I get what you mean but like. I dont know if well rested is an accurate term. I mean dying has to suck ass right? Like it cant be a chill experience.
 

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simply because he was trying to overwhelm naruto with sheer force and one does not simply beat naruto with brute power,an area of expertise naruto excels at

i was really hoping sasuke would fight more inteligently as it fits his style,was hoping for some genjutsu tactics,rinnegan paths but no.kishi just made it all about explosions and flashiness

he did the same with madara vs hashirama

Ex-****in-actly. Thank you for understanding.
 

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LMAO at people saying plot....

For one simple reason my dear...

NARUTO > SASUKE
 

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Even if kaguya + momo vs naruto 2 vs 1, we all know how the story would have turn out
 

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Lame excuses every where. You sasuke fans always cry. I think god made you just for crying.


OP: Same reaction i had when i went through these chapters. Sasuke is really really inferior to naruto. Its a fact that naruto had low chakra at that time while sasuke saved his most of chakra during kaguya. and the most funiest part is that naruto didnt even had intent of killing sasuke so he didnt go full against sasuke while sasuke intention was to kill naruto

Naruto and sasuke has no match. Naruto is clearly superior to him.

That's what make it even worse. Naruto is no where near as smart as Sasuke when it come to battle tactics. Throughout this whole war arc, you clearly see how somebody gotta be the brain for Naruto and you clearly see how Sasuke able to use his own brain in fights.

Lame excuses or not, Plot/kishi was on naruto's side.

simply because he was trying to overwhelm naruto with sheer force and one does not simply beat naruto with brute power,an area of expertise naruto excels at

i was really hoping sasuke would fight more inteligently as it fits his style,was hoping for some genjutsu tactics,rinnegan paths but no.kishi just made it all about explosions and flashiness

he did the same with madara vs hashirama

We got a MVP here!!
 
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nah sasuke couldve killed him instantly with his sword.

gaiden naruto almost died to a stab.
 

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That's what make it even worse. Naruto is no where near as smart as Sasuke when it come to battle tactics. Throughout this whole war arc, you clearly see how somebody gotta be the brain for Naruto and you clearly see how Sasuke able to use his own brain in fights.

Lame excuses or not, Plot/kishi was on naruto's side.





We got a MVP here!!


Wrong. Naruto has shown tactics and planning since the chuunin exams. Naruto is not weaker than Sasuke. Open your eyes.
 

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You still do not understand the manga nor what kishi writing


I understand plenty.. I get the symbolism, the resolution, all of that. I think Naruto is better than Sasuke. How about that you pompous ass?
 

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This is just sad, really really sad, I used to like Naruto like I thought his kyuubi transformation in part 1 against sasuke was awesome, I found it irrelevant who won or lost because they were both epic like "omg Naruto did this" and "omg but Sasuke did this", Naruto as a character is ruined by you Naruto fanboys that can't even make threads about your own fave but need to wank Sasuke :lmao:. Madara fans, hardly care, I swear every other fan base does not care for Sasuke but YOU Naruto fanboys, it's rather sad :lmao:, hell Madara fans rarely make threads concerning sasuke but at least they can make threads about their fave, how about you stop being such a closet Sasuke fan and admit you love sauce because if you didn't, you Naruto fans wouldn't be constantly on his ish :bdpf:. Most Naruto fans are like "but Sasuke fans...", just because another fan base makes threads about their own fave than their fave's rival doesn't mean you guys need to get salty because you can't do the same to your fave without including sasuke, heck even when the thread isn't about Sasuke you find some way to include sasuke :lmao:.


OT: To answer the thread, didn't Naruto also have tail beast and kurama chakra just sasuke? Sasuke just had larger quantity of it but Naruto still had all 9 tail beast chakra, said by the sage himself so... Also Naruto needed two rasenshurikens, one a bijuudama the other a regular one enhanced by the NE of the entire valley to beat one Indra arrow. Even kurama said the chapter after if they took even an ounce less, they would be dead. Prior to indra arrow, Bijuusano was spanking Naruto so I don't even know what you're talking about. Yes Sasuke took naruto's kurama chakra but his eye powers were still weakened noted by kurama. The chidori Enron thing? Have you forgotten that wind is lightning's weakness??? Sasuke needed fire, wind's weakness to even it out. However; naruto's wind rasengan was enhanced by kurama's Chakra or did we miss the page when kurama gave the last of his Chakra? Dat selective reading :lmao:. Lightning+fire=wind kurama chakra or not, they evened out. Also Sasuke obviously was nerfed if sasuke knew all the paths of pein, and mastered the rinnegan, he would've absorbed the rasengan and struck Naruto down like kurama said but he hadn't mastered the rinnegan. Shines tensei would've negged Naruto in more ways than none, and human path??? Well...we saw what nagato, as an Edo, did to KCM Naruto. Sasuke had to feel his abilities out, unlike Naruto he didn't have a precipice for what to ase his rinnegan off of but previous sharnningan powers, also the rinnegan and EMS do drain chakra you know no matter how miniscule. While Naruto had BSM and KCM as precipices to how to use RSM unlike sasuke. Naruto didn't want to kill and sasuke hadn't mastered his abilities at least not to the extent of naruto's mastery with his respective abilities. I'm tired if continuously having to explain this to you fapboys :lmao:
 

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I understand plenty.. I get the symbolism, the resolution, all of that. I think Naruto is better than Sasuke. How about that you pompous ass?

This manga is about naruto can't do anything on his own. Tell me if its wrong
 

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Wrong. Naruto has shown tactics and planning since the chuunin exams. Naruto is not weaker than Sasuke. Open your eyes.

Naruto is far stronger than Sasuke. Nobody shouldn't deny that. Naruto got some tactics and planning skills but no where near Sasuke and kakashi level. This is where the prodigy effect kick in! It is what separated them in the first place!
 

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This manga is about naruto can't do anything on his own. Tell me if its wrong

So this manga is about a character who can't do anything on his own? Lol you are dumber than I thought. I think all the Sasuke wank on this dying website is really starting to get to people.
 

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I will quote my fellows.

Sasuke = Sasuke's chakra + Sage's chakra
Naruto = Naruto's chakra + Sage's chakra + Kurama's chakra + small portion of Bijuus chakra

It's unfair to begin with. Naruto clearly has the advantage here and will obviously last longer in a continuous battle since his chakra reserves are much greater compared to Sasuke to begin with. So your biased opinion about Sasuke having an advantage is complete crap. I'll explain it more.

If Sasuke joined the war alongside Naruto, it would be a massive disadvantage on Sasuke's side since Naruto has MUCH greater initial chakra. Sasuke joining the war late balanced this out. Naruto's surplus supplies of Kurama's chakra negated Sasuke's benefit of joining late so both are on equal footing. Sasuke gains no benefit of joining late.

And then Naruto's Yang Kurama got replaced (which spent most of the chakra), so even after Sasuke eventually balanced his chakra disadvantage by joining late, Naruto took it back to his side and got the advantage after Kurama got replaced because Yin Kurama was almost full on chakra, and Yang Kurama who spent most of the chakra was gone. So now Naruto has the upper hand.

Sasuke spend HIS chakra for the most part whereas Naruto used Kurama's chakra for the most part with moderate to little use of his own chakra. Sasuke's chakra increased in proportionate amount to Naruto's default chakra so that's balanced, and Kurama's surplus chakra was compensated by joining late so that WAS also balanced, but then Naruto got the massive chakra boost by Kurama getting replaced giving Naruto the advantage. And because of that Sasuke's chakra ceased much earlier. He needed the bijuus chakra to compensate for his lacking Six Paths chakra.

Sasuke being close to fresh is the biggest bullshit I've heard in a while. Both of them were equally as exhausted. Both were restored to full stamina after meeting the Sage. So the previous account of tiredness is automatically negated. After that whatever happened, happened to both Naruto AND Sasuke. So no exhaustion excuse available. Amd Naruto also rested a lot of times before Sasuke arrived. In fact, he was resting and getting healed when Sasuke arrived. Sasuke evidently even lost control of his powers due to weakness and exhaustion whereas Naruto showed no such symptoms. So Sasuke was evidently the one having the disadvantage.

And Naruto's surplus supplies of immeasurable Kurama's chakra hardly match up to the lame excuse of Sasuke's non fighting time in Kaguya's dimension, in which Naruto hardly used any mass scale ninjutsu even after having the massive advantage of having so much more chakra than Sasuke, plus Sasuke wasn't resting, he was trying ways to get out.

Giving Naruto the edge just because he said that he didn't want to kill Sasuke is the most ignorant crap ever. AS IF he could kill Sasuke whenever he desired LOL. And just because Naruto has no intention of killing Sasuke from nowhere means that he was holding back. He was using his full power and exactly proportionate to the power Sasuke was using. Naruto's best chance to draw with Sasuke was to use his full power. He used all his most powerful attacks to counter Sasuke. Killing intention or not is irrelevant because he was using his full power.

Sasuke said that Naruto wasn't serious only because Naruto wasn't using his full power AT THAT TIME. And Sasuke was ALSO not using his full power. Just because Naruto didn't say something similar about Sasuke (like Sasuke said about Naruto) doesn't mean Sasuke was utilizing his full power.

He was tempting Naruto to use his full power by saying attacks like that won't work while also restraining himself from using his full power. Sasuke was also not using his full power (clearly evident) and was waiting for Naruto to use his full power before he himself used his full power. But Naruto didn't listen to Sasuke that way because he knew that using their full power would be destructive and fatal for both which he wanted to avoid. So Sasuke forced Naruto into using his full power by going into full power himself (by collecting Bijuus chakra within Susanoo). So Naruto had no option but to use his full power. And after that Naruto activated his full power and Sasuke said that he got serious. But the fact remains that he fought Sasuke with his full power. so killing intention or not is irrelevant.

Yours truly.

So let me see...

- An expert at Senjutsu, RSM grants him the universal comprehension of all things
- Has more chakra than Sasuke in base plus Kurama's own chakra and the Bijuu's, not counting the whole planet's nature energy
- Elemental advantage
- Kurama is fully operative, lending him chakra and giving him some advices

While Sasuke...

- Complete noob at Rinnegan
- Nearly exhausted considering he was fighting with his own reserves, took the Bijuu's chakra that doesn't compare to the planet's nature energy in terms of quantity
- His eye doesn't tell him how to use its powers and doesn't create chakra for him
- Affected by severe plot induced stupidity

And yet Naruto had the disadvantage? Seriously?

Sasuke couldn't win. Naruto's monologues took away any of Sasuke's brain capacities lowering him to his level, had way better powerups and experience, we don't know for sure if Sasuke was fully recovered from the eye transplant, balanced a whole planet's NE with his chakra (hey, wasn't he running on lows Nardo fans?) and had the plotshield with him. It's obvious there couldn't be nothing more than a tie.
 

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This is just sad, really really sad, I used to like Naruto like I thought his kyuubi transformation in part 1 against sasuke was awesome, I found it irrelevant who won or lost because they were both epic like "omg Naruto did this" and "omg but Sasuke did this", Naruto as a character is ruined by you Naruto fanboys that can't even make threads about your own fave but need to wank Sasuke :lmao:. Madara fans, hardly care, I swear every other fan base does not care for Sasuke but YOU Naruto fanboys, it's rather sad :lmao:, hell Madara fans rarely make threads concerning sasuke but at least they can make threads about their fave, how about you stop being such a closet Sasuke fan and admit you love sauce because if you didn't, you Naruto fans wouldn't be constantly on his ish :bdpf:. Most Naruto fans are like "but Sasuke fans...", just because another fan base makes threads about their own fave than their fave's rival doesn't mean you guys need to get salty because you can't do the same to your fave without including sasuke, heck even when the thread isn't about Sasuke you find some way to include sasuke :lmao:.


OT: To answer the thread, didn't Naruto also have tail beast and kurama chakra just sasuke? Sasuke just had larger quantity of it but Naruto still had all 9 tail beast chakra, said by the sage himself so... Also Naruto needed two rasenshurikens, one a bijuudama the other a regular one enhanced by the NE of the entire valley to beat one Indra arrow. Even kurama said the chapter after if they took even an ounce less, they would be dead. Prior to indra arrow, Bijuusano was spanking Naruto so I don't even know what you're talking about. Yes Sasuke took naruto's kurama chakra but his eye powers were still weakened noted by kurama. The chidori Enron thing? Have you forgotten that wind is lightning's weakness??? Sasuke needed fire, wind's weakness to even it out. However; naruto's wind rasengan was enhanced by kurama's Chakra or did we miss the page when kurama gave the last of his Chakra? Dat selective reading :lmao:. Lightning+fire=wind kurama chakra or not, they evened out. Also Sasuke obviously was nerfed if sasuke knew all the paths of pein, and mastered the rinnegan, he would've absorbed the rasengan and struck Naruto down like kurama said but he hadn't mastered the rinnegan. Shines tensei would've negged Naruto in more ways than none, and human path??? Well...we saw what nagato, as an Edo, did to KCM Naruto. Sasuke had to feel his abilities out, unlike Naruto he didn't have a precipice for what to ase his rinnegan off of but previous sharnningan powers, also the rinnegan and EMS do drain chakra you know no matter how miniscule. While Naruto had BSM and KCM as precipices to how to use RSM unlike sasuke. Naruto didn't want to kill and sasuke hadn't mastered his abilities at least not to the extent of naruto's mastery with his respective abilities. I'm tired if continuously having to explain this to you fapboys :lmao:

And here I thought Flash Uchia was the king if excuses...
 
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