Naruto clearly had the biggest disadvantage during final VOTE fight.

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And you honestly think sasuke was going to sit there and take a rasengan -,-"?

What manga or character do you think this/he is?

A rock tripped naruto .. don't you think all sasuke had to do was dodge a little and poke his leg out to cause the same result?
Yeah, exactly.

Also if sasuke had rinnegan mastery the fight would of long been over by absorbing everything Naruto threw.


Full on fanboying and flawed

Naruto throws nukes

Sasuke cant absorb that large of a scale.

We are not talking about "what ifs" talking about the big vote fight.

And who won with the biggest disadvantage :cool:

das rite
 

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Does that matter? They literally died at the hands of Madara which means out of chakra. They were revived then gifted with Hagoromo's chakra. Chakra levels reset.

Well yeah they got a huge boost from Hagoromo.
He pretty much gave them a reset ++.

I dunno their bodies still looked beat up upon revival, so although they were sorta "fresh" I wouldn't say either were in peak condition. (Other than power wise)
 

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So let me see...

- An expert at Senjutsu, RSM grants him the universal comprehension of all things
- Has more chakra than Sasuke in base plus Kurama's own chakra and the Bijuu's, not counting the whole planet's nature energy
- Elemental advantage
- Kurama is fully operative, lending him chakra and giving him some advices

While Sasuke...

- Complete noob at Rinnegan
- Nearly exhausted considering he was fighting with his own reserves, took the Bijuu's chakra that doesn't compare to the planet's nature energy in terms of quantity
- His eye doesn't tell him how to use its powers and doesn't create chakra for him
- Affected by severe plot induced stupidity

And yet Naruto had the disadvantage? Seriously?
 

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Nice thread.

Naruto was nerfed but he still won :lmao:
 

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So let me see...

- An expert at Senjutsu, RSM grants him the universal comprehension of all things
- Has more chakra than Sasuke in base plus Kurama's own chakra and the Bijuu's, not counting the whole planet's nature energy
- Elemental advantage
- Kurama is fully operative, lending him chakra and giving him some advices

While Sasuke...

- Complete noob at Rinnegan
- Nearly exhausted considering he was fighting with his own reserves, took the Bijuu's chakra that doesn't compare to the planet's nature energy in terms of quantity
- His eye doesn't tell him how to use its powers and doesn't create chakra for him
- Affected by severe plot induced stupidity

And yet Naruto had the disadvantage? Seriously?

Go away.


Sasuke clearly had the most OP technique in naruto verse

Naruto

still
won

against

indras

arrow

gg

solo
 

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Go away.


Sasuke clearly had the most OP technique in naruto verse

Naruto

still
won

against

indras

arrow

gg

solo

Shouldn't have expected anything different from a Naruto fan. Thank god there are functional brain in that fanbase...
 

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Naruto:Only 3 goududamas and a huge portion of chakra gone,also had the intent to not kill but seriously injure...him being weakened due to fighting 1on1 with Kaguya...

Sasuke:New Rinnegan? intent to kill...close to fresh.

Thats pretty much all I could think of to be quite honest but that was balanced out when he took all the chakra from Tailed beasts to make his strongest weapon..

Plus Sasuke had the rock that Naruto fell over when he was dashing towards Sasuke with his Rasengan.."The rock 1-0"

So conclusion

Naruto had the biggest disadvantage.. same as Hashirama not wanting to kill his friend..except Naruto had the intent to seriously injure not kill the entire fight rather than Hashirama deciding to kill Madara..

And the Rock gave Sasuke the upperhand

dat rock :cool:

Say what you will..all this is true,odds were tipped in Sasukes favor but still lost...if it was a close draw Sasuke would not have said "I lose" even if he did get talk no jutsu'd as Naruto throughout the fight was focus on saving Sasuke while sasuke wanted to kill him.
On his own reserves..Naruto was using those reserves against Kaguya while Sasuke was being durp in another dimension :;/
Dont forget aswell...Naruto has been fighting a war before all of this way before Sasuke even came to the battlefield...

Sasuke = Sasuke's chakra + Sage's chakra
Naruto = Naruto's chakra + Sage's chakra + Kurama's chakra + small portion of Bijuus chakra

It's unfair to begin with. Naruto clearly has the advantage here and will obviously last longer in a continuous battle since his chakra reserves are much greater compared to Sasuke to begin with. So your biased opinion about Sasuke having an advantage is complete crap. I'll explain it more.

If Sasuke joined the war alongside Naruto, it would be a massive disadvantage on Sasuke's side since Naruto has MUCH greater initial chakra. Sasuke joining the war late balanced this out. Naruto's surplus supplies of Kurama's chakra negated Sasuke's benefit of joining late so both are on equal footing. Sasuke gains no benefit of joining late.

And then Naruto's Yang Kurama got replaced (which spent most of the chakra), so even after Sasuke eventually balanced his chakra disadvantage by joining late, Naruto took it back to his side and got the advantage after Kurama got replaced because Yin Kurama was almost full on chakra, and Yang Kurama who spent most of the chakra was gone. So now Naruto has the upper hand.

Sasuke spend HIS chakra for the most part whereas Naruto used Kurama's chakra for the most part with moderate to little use of his own chakra. Sasuke's chakra increased in proportionate amount to Naruto's default chakra so that's balanced, and Kurama's surplus chakra was compensated by joining late so that WAS also balanced, but then Naruto got the massive chakra boost by Kurama getting replaced giving Naruto the advantage. And because of that Sasuke's chakra ceased much earlier. He needed the bijuus chakra to compensate for his lacking Six Paths chakra.

Sasuke being close to fresh is the biggest bullshit I've heard in a while. Both of them were equally as exhausted. Both were restored to full stamina after meeting the Sage. So the previous account of tiredness is automatically negated. After that whatever happened, happened to both Naruto AND Sasuke. So no exhaustion excuse available. Amd Naruto also rested a lot of times before Sasuke arrived. In fact, he was resting and getting healed when Sasuke arrived. Sasuke evidently even lost control of his powers due to weakness and exhaustion whereas Naruto showed no such symptoms. So Sasuke was evidently the one having the disadvantage.

And Naruto's surplus supplies of immeasurable Kurama's chakra hardly match up to the lame excuse of Sasuke's non fighting time in Kaguya's dimension, in which Naruto hardly used any mass scale ninjutsu even after having the massive advantage of having so much more chakra than Sasuke, plus Sasuke wasn't resting, he was trying ways to get out.

Giving Naruto the edge just because he said that he didn't want to kill Sasuke is the most ignorant crap ever. AS IF he could kill Sasuke whenever he desired LOL. And just because Naruto has no intention of killing Sasuke from nowhere means that he was holding back. He was using his full power and exactly proportionate to the power Sasuke was using. Naruto's best chance to draw with Sasuke was to use his full power. He used all his most powerful attacks to counter Sasuke. Killing intention or not is irrelevant because he was using his full power.

Sasuke said that Naruto wasn't serious only because Naruto wasn't using his full power AT THAT TIME. And Sasuke was ALSO not using his full power. Just because Naruto didn't say something similar about Sasuke (like Sasuke said about Naruto) doesn't mean Sasuke was utilizing his full power.

He was tempting Naruto to use his full power by saying attacks like that won't work while also restraining himself from using his full power. Sasuke was also not using his full power (clearly evident) and was waiting for Naruto to use his full power before he himself used his full power. But Naruto didn't listen to Sasuke that way because he knew that using their full power would be destructive and fatal for both which he wanted to avoid. So Sasuke forced Naruto into using his full power by going into full power himself (by collecting Bijuus chakra within Susanoo). So Naruto had no option but to use his full power. And after that Naruto activated his full power and Sasuke said that he got serious. But the fact remains that he fought Sasuke with his full power. so killing intention or not is irrelevant.
 
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Unfair

are you ****ing stupid

Sasuke got a better powerup...Rinnegan

And increased all his abilities all Naruto got was a upgraded Sage Mode.Nothing more

I was talking about the chakra disadvantages, you fool. I know Sasuke has better powers (Sasuke's powers are clearly superior to Naruto). But what's the point of having those powers if you don't have the chakra to use them.

Kurama is a entitiy of chakra with a personality which naruto has earned the right to attain,trained for it

He has the right to use Kurama. Who's opposing that? But it still adds to Naruto's chakra. You've got to realize the fact that Kurama's addition of chakra helped Naruto last much longer. Aside from that, Kurama's advantages don't matter much to Sasuke, even though it's unfair Sasuke is still stronger, so no problem. Since they were reaching the end of their chakra, Naruto's higher chakra mattered. If it was a fresh start, it wouldn't matter because Sasuke is stronger even with all the advantages Kurama gives Naruto. Because if it was a fresh start, Naruto's higher chakra wouldn't matter, because Sasuke could easily fight with his own chakra. He would have enough for Naruto.

Sasuke has been handed everything....

Naruto trained hard and earned.

Naruto has been handed more stuff. Kurama is the biggest endowment. Sasuke can't compete with Naruto's endowment (especially Kurama) even with all his handovers. EMS isn't the same form of endowment as Kurama. Kurama gives Naruto a lot of bijuu specific powers, plus a Huge pool of chakra, collecting and moulding energy for him while he's battling, giving him him ideas, knowledge and strategies. EMS only enhances Sasuke's existing MS powers and remedy blindness, nothing more.

And Sasuke also trained for his powers so don't bring that shit. Susanoo didn't instantly emerge, Sasuke had to practice for it.

fuk outta here

Man, if you make a stupid thread, you are bound to get rustled. Don't be butthurt because I soloed your argument. That had to happen.
 

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The show is called Naruto but it seems Kishimoto makes Sasuke seem stronger than Naruto.

He purposely made Sasuke stronger than Naruto BECAUSE the show is called "Naruto". He wants to depict that raw physical power ain't everything, the power of love and cooperation can overpower it.
 

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He purposely made Sasuke stronger than Naruto BECAUSE the show is called "Naruto". He wants to depict that raw physical power ain't everything, the power of love and cooperation can overpower it.

Indeed, what made Naurto a fascinating character is not his power, but his will, cooperation and courtesy

Maybe burrito will understand and inherit naruto's and surpass him in such nature
 

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Why do people still argue about this, Kishi made them even representing ying/yang. It isn't that complicated it is a manga aimed at young adults right, put your bias aside and look at it from a neutral perspective and you will see that they are even at the end of the manga.
 

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Why do people still argue about this, Kishi made them even representing ying/yang. It isn't that complicated it is a manga aimed at young adults right, put your bias aside and look at it from a neutral perspective and you will see that they are even at the end of the manga.

Naurto's will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sasuke's, that's how they even out
 
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I'll admit naruto was at a disadvantage but thas only because sasuke was too strong. In the end sasuke got nerfed like he always has been getting since kishi always makes sasuke too op

Poor Sasuke getting nerfed by getting bijuu (which is Naruto's thing)
 

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Poor Sasuke getting nerfed by getting bijuu (which is Naruto's thing)

Obviously that was a power up butkishi restricted a lot of his abilities like him just being able to absorb Chakra and kishi getting sasuke could swap naruto in front of him and chidor just like madara. Sasuke never used amaterasu shield never used his amaterasu sword I could go on but the fight was bs and everyone know it all naruto could do was tie with sasuke.
 
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