Why can't sasuke beat pain???

[killerman82]

He would almighty push him so hard it would make his ancestors dizzy. xd

 

[Spitfire421]

He would almighty push him so hard it would make his ancestors dizzy. xd

^^^ Lmao. Also, nice sig! xd

 

[Gneiss]

If sasuke and pain fight without knowledge than pain will most definitely win but with knowledge pain still wins with high difficulty. If he fights nagato himself sasuke will lose because he's to quick to use his strongest abilities in battle and that would be his downfall

 

[Tsujan9484]

simple.....cause Pein>Sasuke

 

[nNoma]

Dude what don't you get about Amaterasu not able to be extinguish it'll keep burning 4 7 days and 7 nights if he absorb that I'm pretty sure it'll keep burning inside him like how he died from natural chakra and about susano'O what makes you think tht sasuke is gonna stand there while pain is getting closer to absorb it

This doesn't make much sense at all, that would mean when the Preta path absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken it would have gone off inside that Pain thus severing the chakra circulation and link to Nagato. Sadly this never happened and it never would. Amaterasu is in fact a ninjutsu, a very powerful one, but still a chakra infused blaze release ninjutsu. It would get absorbed just as any other blaze release ninjutsu would.

The sharingan is a bit overrated IMO, people just assume because amaterasu is a technique linked with the sharingan is has ways to ignore other ninjutsu and techniques. Well this is not the case, just as people think Tsukuyomi can't be broken...again a powerful genjutsu, but not unbeatable nor unbreakable.

People need to realize that Pain is probably the strongest person in Naruto right now. I say this because while Edo Madara is hacks, he does not possess the same knowledge of the rinnegan as Nagato did...please please please I'm not turning this into a Nagato vs Edo Madara thread. I'm just saying that Pain wasn't meant to be defeated by anyone, that's why Naruto was only able to defeat him by changing him. Even Tobi knew this, and never asked how Naruto defeated him, just asked how Naruto changed his mind.

Pain was built up, hyped, and for good reason. He was the second sage of six paths, we was a God by all standards. Can Sasuke beat him, no absolutely not. It just wouldn't happen. Did Naruto beat him, no not at all, did J-man nope. The dude is a monster.

 

[severjano]

Thats why I said my point wasnt absolute, we dont know if Sasuke can figure it out in generate enough power and we dont know if pain is dumb enough to let Sasuke make rain clouds, reach up and strike him with kirin. I was only stating that its not a high chance any1 even Sasuke can pull that off. + if itachi can counter kirin by making a rib cage, then why cant pain react to kirin?

okey but sasuke had not only kirin he has amateraseru and more shit everyon say bla bla it wil get absorbd what about the other pain you really think sasuke is dumb that he wel fire all his jutsu at one pain that absorbing pain isnt fast like minato he cant save all of them

Sasuke can't even beat deva path or animal path. His genjutsu is weak. Amaterasu can be counter so many ways its not funny. N susanno can be counter by deva path or the path with all the missile. Sasuke has no way of defeating 6pop. N if someone truly believe amaterasu won't be absorb then ur an idiot honestly.

hahah you logic is weak and pathetic how can you say its genjutsu is weak it isnt.he is a dam uchiha they are known for good genjutsu he already proved his genjutsu is high advanced even whit normal sharingan he blockd itachis tyukiyomi and you realy think that weak regular missle can block that giant susanoo arrow no bro it cant and you really think that sasuke wil fire al his jutsu ad that absorbing pain hes is not a dumbass you know what about the other pains lol:sy:

This doesn't make much sense at all, that would mean when the Preta path absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken it would have gone off inside that Pain thus severing the chakra circulation and link to Nagato. Sadly this never happened and it never would. Amaterasu is in fact a ninjutsu, a very powerful one, but still a chakra infused blaze release ninjutsu. It would get absorbed just as any other blaze release ninjutsu would.

The sharingan is a bit overrated IMO, people just assume because amaterasu is a technique linked with the sharingan is has ways to ignore other ninjutsu and techniques. Well this is not the case, just as people think Tsukuyomi can't be broken...again a powerful genjutsu, but not unbeatable nor unbreakable.

People need to realize that Pain is probably the strongest person in Naruto right now. I say this because while Edo Madara is hacks, he does not possess the same knowledge of the rinnegan as Nagato did...please please please I'm not turning this into a Nagato vs Edo Madara thread. I'm just saying that Pain wasn't meant to be defeated by anyone, that's why Naruto was only able to defeat him by changing him. Even Tobi knew this, and never asked how Naruto defeated him, just asked how Naruto changed his mind.

Pain was built up, hyped, and for good reason. He was the second sage of six paths, we was a God by all standards. Can Sasuke beat him, no absolutely not. It just wouldn't happen. Did Naruto beat him, no not at all, did J-man nope. The dude is a monster.

you overate pain 2 much there are now more stroger ninjas then pain naruto byuu mode and defenently mandara and i am sure tobi is stronger to

 

[leenamikaze]

LORD SASUKE!!! He can defeat anyone!!! Yayaya -_- wtf?!! Hahaha fail thread! Sasuke cant defeat pain. End of story

 

[severjano]

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fu.ck sasuke haters First of all to you you Sasuke haters.
Sasuke took on the Kgaes, not all of them though, and he did way better then Naruto could ever do. Sasuke could kill Naruto. Can any of you tell me how Naruto wins so may battles? Maybe the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi is the whole show. Sasuke is a real ninja going up against real Kages. Stop saying stupid things like Naruto planned the fight with Pein. He can't even plan a party, without asistance. The KYUUBI Naruto went crazy on Pein with the foxes chakra. Sasuke uses Sasuke not a demon fox.

Sasuke kills Pain because he is the coolest character and Pain is not. And Sasuke has the drive that makes him unpredictable.
3 years ago

first off kirin isnt orochimaru jutsu, and it doesnt require orochimaru's charka dummy. look at narutowiki for once.

lastly it is not a once in a life shot. you sound butthurt that orochimaru got owned inside of sasuke's mind lmao. :flaw:

i suggest you go re read the manga and look up jutsu on wiki before you start makeing up stuff.
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1. only people who have dodge amatersu shown is, tobi,raikage.

i dont think 5/6 paths are that fast to dodge it or see it comeing.

2. you have been drinking the haterade sasuke juice. :sy:

tbb came from kurma not naruto. susanno arrow is sasuke's power.

you cannt comare naruto to sasuke here so stop trying.


3.sasuke wouldnt die from ct or st.

4. this is the only part so far that makes any sense, but i like kirin takes care of 5/6 paths if not. none of them are fast enough to dodge or try to absorb amatersu.

amatersu is not rasengen shiruken. amatersu is 100times faster. mabye not 100 but way faster.


dude ms sasuke> sm naruto

ems is overkill . stop drinking that juice



once again stop compareing rasenshurken to amatersu there two different attacks not the same at all.

like i said before they the guy who absorbs stuff wouldnt see it comeing. i doubt he is as fast as raikage:sy:.

it can be dodged but not buy anyone with lower speed then raikage.



lol. there in here thats fer sure.

lol yea your right and there are so many of them there like cockroaches and you comments are great men they crack me up

 

[Capn FlapJak]

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fu.ck sasuke haters First of all to you you Sasuke haters.
Sasuke took on the Kgaes, not all of them though, and he did way better then Naruto could ever do. Sasuke could kill Naruto. Can any of you tell me how Naruto wins so may battles? Maybe the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi is the whole show. Sasuke is a real ninja going up against real Kages. Stop saying stupid things like Naruto planned the fight with Pein. He can't even plan a party, without asistance. The KYUUBI Naruto went crazy on Pein with the foxes chakra. Sasuke uses Sasuke not a demon fox.

Sasuke kills Pain because he is the coolest character and Pain is not. And Sasuke has the drive that makes him unpredictable.
3 years ago

kages ..huh big deal pain would kill em all and not need tobi to save him
As for naruto and his fox i agree it saves him a lot but its his nothing can b done bout it all fair

 

[severjano]

thanks for repeating what i said bro. i never said naruto soloed pain. i said excatly what you said w/o the whole hinat thing.

hinato got swated like a fly if i remember correctly how did she save him when he was still pen to the ground lol:sy:

lol the itachi thing:sy: kid read the manga. here is what happen

naruto and bee were getting choked out in the strong forms, then itachi susanno grabed then from nagato. then nagato used ct or st idk. and all of them used some of there strongest attacks to counter it.

then in the smoke itachi sealed them. this is why i said what i said.

if itachi wouldnt have saved, them then they should have been in deep waters. so stop trolling kid or re read the fight.

im a dummy? because i want to see kisame vs nagato? kay get nagato rod out your b hole.
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what i said is that sasuke wouldnt stand there and try and take on the jutsu.:sy: your the troll bro.

btw it wasnt the 9 tails it was the 8 tails. didnt look like it had trouble to me:sy:




no dude i read excatly what he said he said you need orochimaru's charka to perform kirin i red it myself. kirin has nothing to do with orochimaru.

its created by a power fire jutsu such as amatersu. which makes clouds, clouds make rain, rain normal accompines lighting. sasuke guides the lighting.:sy:

i love how you people pick and choose what people say in post.

i said for that kid to stop compare rasgenshirkun to amatersu, because in his whole post he was basically talking about naruto and sasuke. and he was basically saying that ems could only take sm naruto. now stop cuting and pasting i say" not literally but u get it.

ems has nothing new? how about the abiltiy to spam amatersu unlike ms? ability to spam doujutsu w/o going blind like ms?

sasukes ems gained no new abilites? Blaze Release Magatama. overall you should at least read all of what i said, read up on stuff before you post next time.

Over time, use of the Mangekyō Sharingan's techniques deteriorates the user's eyesight to the point of blindness. Only by taking and transplanting the Mangekyō of another Uchiha clan member can the vision be restored, a process that results in the creation of an Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan (永遠の万華鏡写輪眼, Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan). The tighter the blood ties are between the "donor" and the receiver, the better it is for compatibility — a sibling for example would make the best donor. The time from fusing the donor's Mangekyō with the receiver's Mangekyō to the point of full recovery is at least several days as seen in Sasuke's case. Not only does this process permanently restore one's eyesight, but it also gives the person even greater increases in power. The Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan also changes form from the original Mangekyō form, to what appears to be a fusion of the wielder's own Mangekyō with the transplanted one. If an Uchiha with the Mangekyō Sharingan is reincarnated through the Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation technique, they gain the ability to use the Mangekyō Sharingan for extended periods of time without complaints of any deteriorating vision.
Through unknown means, the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan can also evolve even further into the Rinnegan, as plus he had an new susanoo if you watch the manga

kages ..huh big deal pain would kill em all and not need tobi to save him
As for naruto and his fox i agree it saves him a lot but its his nothing can b done bout it all fair

your crazy men al those pain have only 1 ability each. if it was a fight between kages and pain then pain dont stand a chance you overate pain to much did you forget that they hold there own against mandara

 

[Capn FlapJak]

your crazy men al those pain have only 1 ability each. if it was a fight between kages and pain then pain dont stand a chance you overate pain to much did you forget that they hold there own against mandara

ya i meant if he fought them like sasuke mostly 1 at a time
i dont think pains can win but i do think nagato can beat them all at once
wasnt it u talkin big bout sasuke cause he fought kages...?pain would have done better sasuke needed zetzus stolen charka and tobi pain or nagato wouldnt need it...

 

[severjano]

all people listen to this wel one thing is for sure people i thing ems is strong enough to beat pain right now but forget that thats my opinion but my point is you now may think sasuke dont stand a chance againts pain wait 50 more manga ep or 100 en we will see how strong sasuke becomes pain is fu.cking dead history sasuke lives and gets stronger and stronger hahaha cant wait when this manga is finish then its just a fact that sasuke is stronger pain is dead and sasuke not so sasuke already wins and sasuke is just getting stronger (and this comment is ment for the sasuke haters)

 

[Capn FlapJak]

all people listen to this wel one thing is for sure people i thing ems is strong enough to beat pain right now but forget that thats my opinion but my point is you now may think sasuke dont stand a chance againts pain wait 50 more manga ep or 100 en we will see how strong sasuke becomes pain is fu.cking dead history sasuke lives and gets stronger and stronger hahaha cant wait when this manga is finish then its just a fact that sasuke is stronger pain is dead and sasuke not so sasuke already wins and sasuke is just getting stronger (and this comment is ment for the sasuke haters)

ya u provein our point sasuke still cant take on a village and naruto/fox and still b have the amount of charka to bring back to life said village
pain or nagato win
intel or not sasuke loses
wait til sasuke get rinnegan lol cause as of now
deva path solo with CT
im no hater i really do like sasuke and he would b a monster with rinnegan but im no fanboy i kno sasuke just cant beat pain

 

[severjano]

ya i meant if he fought them like sasuke mostly 1 at a time
i dont think pains can win but i do think nagato can beat them all at once
wasnt it u talkin big bout sasuke cause he fought kages...?pain would have done better sasuke needed zetzus stolen charka and tobi pain or nagato wouldnt need it...

thats not my point i meant to say that everyone think sasuke going to lose 100% chance i meant to say that sasuke fought against 2 kages including jonin ninja before healing and now he has ems and is even stronger but i am not sure what you said mandara uchiha is stronger then nagato he had the same abilities and more did you forget that giant metorite i never see nagato do that and the kages powers combined stopt it they hold there own against him and nagato is weaker ???? hahah zo the kages have a even chance to win against nagato so nagato never can beat them al at once they proved it in the battle against mandara

ya u provein our point sasuke still cant take on a village and naruto/fox and still b have the amount of charka to bring back to life said village
pain or nagato win
intel or not sasuke loses
wait til sasuke get rinnegan lol cause as of now
deva path solo with CT
im no hater i really do like sasuke and he would b a monster with rinnegan but im no fanboy i kno sasuke just cant beat pain

wel thats your opinion and i am more a naruto fan then a sasuke fan i stay whit what i think i am not a idiot not just that i like sasuke but i just realy think ems sasuke has a good chance to win but fu.ck it i stay whit what i think if you think pain then its your opinion

 

[Capn FlapJak]

thats not my point i meant to say that everyone think sasuke going to lose 100% chance i meant to say that sasuke fought against 2 kages including jonin ninja before healing and now he has ems and is even stronger but i am not sure what you said mandara uchiha is stronger then nagato he had the same abilities and more did you forget that giant metorite i never see nagato do that and the kages powers combined stopt it they hold there own against him and nagato is weaker ???? hahah zo the kages have a even chance to win against nagato so nagato never can beat them al at once they proved it in the battle against mandara[/QUOTIE]

I don't get this how does madaras fight prove nagato can't beat the 5 Kages
I'm not sayin nagato is stronger then madara but the two fight diff
Madara mostly uses ems and yes nagato can send giant rocks at u too he just doesn't make them too big cause it would kill him too madara is edo
I really don't think u understand negatos powers 1 of them is gravity so ya... He can moves rocks as well and what is CT if not a giant rock

 

[severjano]

thats not my point i meant to say that everyone think sasuke going to lose 100% chance i meant to say that sasuke fought against 2 kages including jonin ninja before healing and now he has ems and is even stronger but i am not sure what you said mandara uchiha is stronger then nagato he had the same abilities and more did you forget that giant metorite i never see nagato do that and the kages powers combined stopt it they hold there own against him and nagato is weaker ???? hahah zo the kages have a even chance to win against nagato so nagato never can beat them al at once they proved it in the battle against mandara[/QUOTIE]

I don't get this how does madaras fight prove nagato can't beat the 5 Kages
I'm not sayin nagato is stronger then madara but the two fight diff
Madara mostly uses ems and yes nagato can send giant rocks at u too he just doesn't make them too big cause it would kill him too madara is edo
I really don't think u understand negatos powers 1 of them is gravity so ya... He can moves rocks as well and what is CT if not a giant rock

what i meant was that he can beat them at once i meant in 1 blow and no theres no prove that nagato can make a big one like mandara besides mandara was indeed edo but nagato was edo to so???

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whahah YEA HELL OVERWHELMING!!! never seen nagato make a big one like that the first ninja was the strongest he could make one as big as the moon it relys on chakra mandara has almost unlimited chakra nagato doesnt have that much charka so he cant create a big one like that and nagato and mandara are very much different mandara is on a hell bigger league then nagato

 

[Capn FlapJak]

what i meant was that he can beat them at once i meant in 1 blow and no theres no prove that nagato can make a big one like mandara besides mandara was indeed edo but nagato was edo to so???

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whahah YEA HELL OVERWHELMING!!! never seen nagato make a big one like that the first ninja was the strongest he could make one as big as the moon it relys on chakra mandara has almost unlimited chakra nagato doesnt have that much charka so he cant create a big one like that and nagato and mandara are very much different mandara is on a hell bigger league then nagato

Again what is CT did u overlook that
And has madara killed the Kages in 1 hit no so what's the point intact what's the point if madara cause he not savein sasuke from diein to CT which u seem to not count as a giant rock....and nagato doesn't have that much chakra? now I kno u don't kno shit bout nagato I don't kno what madaras chakra levels were in life due to edo
But nagato has the highest chakra supply to date of any non edo
Fir gods sake he blow up the whole leaf village owned them even b4 he did
Fought naruto and narutos chakra levels r crazy add in the fox and the bring back every1 to life
Intact add perta path if used from nagatos body gives him more chakra he is like kisame who gets stronger the stronger the person he is fightin
And like I said nagato loses to madara but sasuke don't even get that chance 6 Paths of pain will kill him and make a body outa him for the 1 body Sasuke might probly kill

But u were right I'm not changein your mind and your not changein mine so no hard feelings
And sure ems sasuke has a chance in my eyes but I really do doubt it and really doubt it with sasuke havein info
The other reason y I don't see it is I see sasuke running low on chakra in a fight with pain and the longer it drags out the better for pain\nagato as said by itachi
And I don't see how he would end the fight quick
There are so many things to fight worry bout with pain
For example some1 said summons how sasuke deal with em?
Then some1 said black flames ok I can see that but there are like 8 of em and the dog can b even more if sasuke don't flame it quick and each sum that gets attacked make a openin for pain to attack sasuke cause they won't just stand there
And last of all CT I really don't see how people think sasuke can win with a attack like this that sasuke has never dealt with and doesn't have the firepower to blow up

 

[Josh]

Stop multi-posting! >_<

 

[tsuyaraba]

Let's look at the facts regarding The Six Paths of Pain's abilities, and then look at Sasuke's to see how they measure up.

Six Paths of Pain(Not Nagato)

-When the Paths are active together, Nagato is able to see through there eyes, thus giving him six seperate fields of vision.

-All the Paths have incredible speed, strength, and the ability to create chakra disruption blades(the black poles). These allow the Paths to incapacitate opponents that are struck with them.

Deva Path- Allows the user to manipulate attractive and repulsive forces, thus pulling an opponent in to attack them, or pushing an opponent or an attack away as a defensive method.

Chibaku Tensei- Arguably one of the strongest Jutsu we have seen in Naruto thus far, is used by the Deva Path. A black sphere of gravity is formed which attracts and gathers objects from all directions pulling them in and compressing them in to a giant sphere. This Jutsu was barely countered by Naruto with his 8-tails cloak, Pain himself even marveled at the strength of the nine-tails, but responded by saying he would have to make an even larger one to deal with it's full power.

Human Path- Allows the user to absorb the soul of anything it touches, as well as read it's mind. This is a one shot ability, anyone or anything touched by this path will automatically lose it's soul.

Asura Path- Allows the user the ability to summon mechanized armor, augmenting there body with extra limbs and weaponry. Provides protection to the other Paths, as well as constant cover fire and offensive capabilities. Some might think this Path is not useful, but in fact it has be shown to be able to take a large amount of punishment. I might also add that something that has mechanized armor would be far less affected by an ability like Amateratsu.

Animal Path- Allows the user the ability to summon various creatures, all which possess the rinnegan and same shared field of vision as the six paths. Some of these summons include a very powerful chameleon able to camouflage itself and anything that touches it. A dog summon with immense strength and speed, which doubles when struck, among others.

Preta Path- Grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form. Any chakra based ninjutsu of any element can be absorbed this way.

Naraka Path- Grants the user two abilities, these include interrogation and resurrection, by using the King of Hell.

Interrogation- implemented on a target, a serpent-like apparition of their life force energy, in the form of an enlarged tongue emerges from their mouth and is presented to the figure. The King of Hell then proceeds to pass its judgement on the victim. If they are lying, their life force energy is ripped out by its two hand-shaped tongues and consumed, leading to the victim's death. If the target is telling the truth, it lets go of the protrusion leaving the target alive but extremely exhausted.

Resurrection- For its second ability, the King of Hell can repair the other Paths, should they be damaged or killed. When it consumed the remains of the Asura Path, the path emerged from the figure fully restored.

Sasuke(EMS)

Basic known Facts- Under his training with Orochimaru Sasuke was subjected to the Sannin's experiments and as a result developed physical enhancements including an immunity towards most forms of poisons. His training has also given him great skill in fūinjutsu and is also otherwise quite knowledgeable in other seals.

Shurikenjutsu and Kenjutsu- Sasuke is well versed in weapons, his swordsmanship has been shown to be lethal and decisive on more than one occasion, and has been used as an important element in his fighting style. Combining his chidori with his weapon to create a more long ranged accurate strike. He is also able to use shadow shuriken technique in which he could hide one shuriken in the shadow of another.

Summoning Techniques- Sasuke is able to summon a hawk, which increases his mobility and allows him to get in close to his opponent from many different angles.

Chakra Nature Transformations- As a member of the Uchiha, Sasuke has great proficiency in fire release nature manipulation. Mastering Fire Release: Great Fireball by the age of 7 he surprised many of his peers, even Kakashi was amazed at such a feat.
He has also been shown combining his fire skills with weapons to create new techniques.

Sasuke is also proficient in the use of lightning release manipulation. Learning chidori early on and combining it with his sharingan allowed Sasuke to better control it later on. This is evident when he learns to channel his chidori allowing him to emit electricity from all over his body. In addition he also able to combine the element with his sword giving the blade immense cutting power, and allowing it to numb anyone it cuts.

Blaze Release: Amaterasu- Is the highest level Fire Release technique, and are said to ignite at the focus of the user's vision. It is also said to be unavoidable. The flames are able to burn through almost anything, and can't be extinguished through any known means. However Sasuke later learns that he possess the ability to extinguish the flames using his sharingan.

Susanoo'- Is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan after awakening the abilities in both eyes. It is the user's guardian deity, but at the same time, it consumes the user's life. The user's eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of their chakra. Susanoo' is materialized from the user's chakra differing in color and appearance based on the user. having Susanoo activated can impair the users movements, and delay the use of other techniques.
Despite Susanoo's impressive defensive capabilities, the protection it grants its user is not absolute. The user can be thrown out of the upper half of Susanoo by an enemy manipulating the substance underneath Susanoo.

Tsukuyomi- A genjutsu with comparable power to that of Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed before being able to use it. When activated the user is trapped in an illusion which seems to go on for days, but what happens inside the illusion takes only seconds in the real world. This causes intense psychological damage that can incapacitate the victim for a considerable amount of time. Due to the complexity of the illusion and the quickness with which it is executed, an enormous amount of chakra is necessary. Sasuke can perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye, though his illusion is considered inferior to Itachi's Tsukuyomi since it does not alter the opponent's perception of time indicating he has yet to master it.

In conclusion, we can see that both the Six Path's of Pain and Sasuke possesses an immense amount of powerful skills and abilities.

When pit against one another, we can see that Pain's abilities far exceed that of Sasuke's. In Ninjutsu, and Taijutsu, Pain not only surpasses Sasuke, but he has the means to shut down all of Sasuke's attacks. Genjutsu although powerful will more than likely not effect pain's paths the way they would effect a regular person.

Pain remains to be known as one of the strongest characters in Naruto to date, he was known as a god by many and revered as the second coming of the Sage of Six Paths. His abilities and chakra reserves far surpass that of almost any living Naruto character. This is why I believe Sasuke can never defeat Pain.

Very well, detailed comparison here. i like this one. People, take note.

 

[Kage Jake]

Remember, Pein only had a FRACTION of the powers compared to the Sage of Six paths. Sasuke and try but will be no match for Pein.