Thats why I said my point wasnt absolute, we dont know if Sasuke can figure it out in generate enough power and we dont know if pain is dumb enough to let Sasuke make rain clouds, reach up and strike him with kirin. I was only stating that its not a high chance any1 even Sasuke can pull that off. + if itachi can counter kirin by making a rib cage, then why cant pain react to kirin?
Why can't sasuke beat pain???
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genjutsu ..not gonna work on all six at a time or jman could have one for doubts read that manga again
susanoo. shinra tensie will push it off easily
susanoo arrows and amaterasu can be absorbed even if it hits the paths can revive or absorb the chakra like it did to naruto .
speed of sasuke useless coz their visions are linked even sm naruto found it hard.
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naruto won coz of kyubi or he would have lost
susanoo. shinra tensie will push it off easily
susanoo arrows and amaterasu can be absorbed even if it hits the paths can revive or absorb the chakra like it did to naruto .
speed of sasuke useless coz their visions are linked even sm naruto found it hard.
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naruto won coz of kyubi or he would have lost
Also, well we ever get to sasukes deffences to pains attacks. I mean if he cant kill pain right off the bat, then can he exaust him? I mean to be honest, if Sasuke cant deffend at all (which is a prime means to open a attack) then his attacks wont nessisarilly help him either. A dead body cant fight back. I mean. Lets say Sasuke and pain has a slug fest of undodgeable attacks, its almost assured that the reviving path wont be in that fight, he'll be hidden far off in the back lines. 5 dead pains become 5 alive pains. Sasuke (IF HES still alive) cant just attack his way to victory, nor would he, he's too smart for that.
Does Pain even start with Chou Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei? Even so wouldn't susanoo tank it if Tsunade could?
Why not? If frog song worked wouldn't Sasuke's crippling genjutsu work too?
What about the four other paths that can't do anything about amaterasu?
Yes it will, there is no reason why it won't.
Kirin can not be absorbed because it is natural lightning and not made out of chakra.
Sasuke loses to Pain but he would put up a fight.
I like this, its well put and acurate :ice: I only dissagree on 2 things, 1. Ive talked about several reasons why sasukes genjutsu may not work. No one has replyed to it so im guessing I made a ok point. And if the others caught fire it could still be delt with and if the healing pain were to be hit, it would probably be made a proority. Then again, theres always ”take my cloak off... No jutsu”
jtolliver87
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A big part of the reason naruto was able to "defeat" Pain was due to his sage techs and his unusual cloning abilities oh yea he had a tailed beast that did alot of work for him for a period of time....sasuke has none of these abilities which is why i say he would lose...naruto was really just naturally better suited to fight pain
ugh no Kishi would have to disagree. A guy who never truly lost a fight, named strongest in akatsuki, solod villages, killed jman noo problem, solod sixtails....yeah Sasuke is not equal or greater to pein. what a dumb thing to say.
Bright Master
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The rinnegan is highly underestimated, because we are yet to know its full capabilites. Like common, It killed hundreds of people in one move, leveled konoha, then brought them back to life. five bucks says it can summon chuck norris.
Capn FlapJak
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susanoo is hard it cracks like glass
tsunade got the slug its soft it can take bunt impacts and every 1 still took damage broken bones etc
and that thundercloud move may be real lighting but pain has real gravity that affects real rocks so a ST will do
and he will have time since sasuke has to take time to layer it with sum of his charka to control turnin it into a big oblivious attack
and about the black flame ST again or bring back to life
preta can eat it as well protectin a few they stick 2gether like a football team plans
let me help out here a little buddy
Hanzo yeah the one who took on all 3 sannin yeah him. then he and his entire village was defeated by Pein.
yeah deva solod 6tails smart one. And he only won becouse deva was disabled at first, he had a ton of intel on pein, had assistance from the other toads, had two sage clones ready, hinata saved his ass, then 6 tails came out still lost. Only after all this did he lose. Naruto alone would have been chrushed easily.
And no itachi only survived becouse of bee and naruto. Without them he would be crushed in CT. And the only reason he got hit by the sword is becouse he couldnt WALK. It took all three of them to take down a crippled Nagato.
And kishi would disagree kishi said he was the strongest no Kisame. Kisame is strong and all but would get destroyed by pein. And your an idiot nagato can absorb chakara to and dosent need a sword
Everything else you say is irreleveant. Nagato was given the power so with the power he has he would kill Sasuke mid diff
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Capn FlapJak
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u a dumb troll u even said CT wouldnt kill sasuke lets just say sasuke in susanoo can live how will he get out if the 9 tails had problems gettin out how long b4 he runs outa susanoo cuase CT once its made it holds itself
Look bro. Sasuke CANNOT win.
Kirin gets absorbed or deflected by shinra tensei. Or one gets revived by that other pain.
Amaterasu. Same as Kirin.
Chidori. Same as kirin.
Susano'o. Doesn't need to penetrate it. Chibaku tensei will take care of it.
Genjutsu requires that one pain looks in his eyes but guess what. They have shared vision so the one fighting sasuke will simply close his eyes so that the others will look for him.
Sasuke will not win. Period.
Kirin gets absorbed or deflected by shinra tensei. Or one gets revived by that other pain.
Amaterasu. Same as Kirin.
Chidori. Same as kirin.
Susano'o. Doesn't need to penetrate it. Chibaku tensei will take care of it.
Genjutsu requires that one pain looks in his eyes but guess what. They have shared vision so the one fighting sasuke will simply close his eyes so that the others will look for him.
Sasuke will not win. Period.
1. He wasnt saying he needed orochimaru's power, he was saying he needed extra power which just so happened to be orochimaru's ATM. Not saying hes right but theres no need to be so harsh. 2. Srsly, amatatsu can be delt with, you ignore my posts? Ur right about them avoiding it tho... 3. U just said u shouldnt compare Naruto and Sasuke but then u said ” ms sasuke> sm naruto ”... (+ pain is better then sm Naruto so ur point there isnt really valid.) Btw EMS from what I understand wont really chage the outcome of this fight. powering up moves that wont nessisarily work wont make them work.
Pain vs kisame... No match unless u think might guy can beat pain as well. Naruto had help. Nagato had his eyes before he met tobi, he awoke them to protect yhico which is the person whos leggs got broken - dont make fun of people
Srsly... No one replyed to my amateratsu or genjutsu posts, ive already givin a bunch of reasons they wont work, u guys ignoring that? Lol + kirin... Srsly, IF he can make clouds wile fighting pain without looking like hes gonna use them (im a regular human, no were near on track with the mental prowess of pain, but if im fighting someone and they make clouds... Srsly im gonna tell there gona use them for something.) And he can gather the kirin before pain gets rid of the clouds and or prepare a attack or prepare to push it, its gonna need to hit all of the pains at the same time and kill them, and I dont recall the pains to be idiots who all stand in a circle so that they can just be killed togeather. The chance of that happening is really really low
by far the worst thread ever, dont argue with the fact that amaterasu is a jutsu which is blaze release, now what is fire release.... ninjutsu and blaze release is just a FIRE from "h3ll" soooooo its ninjutsu too preta path absorbs all ninjutsu so sasuke doesnt have any non-ninjutsu attacks besides genjutsu and now dont goo "oh well what about susano'o huh ultimate defence brah" well guess what... its pure chakra now what is naruto rasenshuriken... pure chakra, and sasuke doesnt have tons of chakra like naruto so ya if sasuke was to keep susnao'o up while preta path sucking it in guess he would collapse and land right on baby face.
p.s. not a hater but i really dont like it when people over-rate characters, its pathetic -_-
p.s. not a hater but i really dont like it when people over-rate characters, its pathetic -_-
Sasuke1025
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Dude sasuke is smart he's not just just going to shoot a bunch of fire balls up to the sky he's gonna come at him and force him to jump then he can shoot the fire balls but purposely miss and when pain sees the thinder clouds he isn't gonna b like oh sh*t thunder clouds he's gonna use natural lightning no one has ever tamed natural lightning so by the time he raise his chidori it'll b to late
Sasuke1025
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Dude what don't you get about Amaterasu not able to be extinguish it'll keep burning 4 7 days and 7 nights if he absorb that I'm pretty sure it'll keep burning inside him like how he died from natural chakra and about susano'O what makes you think tht sasuke is gonna stand there while pain is getting closer to absorb it
that's the thing. people assume that they used "just the right ammount" of power when they combined their strength. It's a **** way to say Nagato would've killed Itachi if it wasn't fo those two, because otherwise, it was a 1 on 1 fight. Bee and Naruto were more of a nuisance in that fight. Itachi never stated that they just barely destroyed it. Itachi always plays it safe. that's why he asked for help, but honestly, we DON'T KNOW if multiple yasaka magatamas could've broken it alone. Some people assume, and then take those assumptions as facts
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