Why can't sasuke beat pain???

[ShiroT]

I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

Reasons:

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

1. a chakra based attacks can be absorbed and its a slow death, the pains could easily attack sasuke while he's using it or absorb it. And plus there puppets so they don't feel pain.
2.nagato knows alot about genjutsu and the ones who are fighting sasuke can close there eyes while the ones sasuke aren't fighting can watch(shared vision)
3. susanoo is still chakra which means it can get absorbed. pain could also use brute force of summons to break it.
4. if sasuke managed to hit any of them with kirin the rest of them would still be hovering over him then the path that died will just get revived.
5.if sasuke got sucked up into the gravity field he would have to put all his attention into that and while he's doing the pains would've have killed him

lol im a sasuke fan to but tell me how sasuke is going to one shot all six pains with adleast 4 of them fighting at once and plus sasuke has no knowledge of there abilities

 

[Sasuno Tsawaki]

I pray to god that one day they call Sasuke "Lord of the EMO!, Sasugay"

 

[ninjamos]

Uhm. I think you're a wee bit behind on manga. Present chapter is almost 600 now, we have seen what the original body is capable of. SO6P part is BS, you better remove it, and Madara has those same eyes that you seem to adore.:shrug: I feel this was written Ike 4 years ago:shrug:

It might have been, but I personally thought some of it was interesting, I understand its out of date but it fits the time of the fight were talking about I saposse. Im not behin on my manga... Altho I can admit, I dont get why everyone always uses the Japanese names when the mention a jutsu. I dont understand them not caring to learn there names in jappanese since im... English I think I may make a thread about that.... Anyway...

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

oh i see this thread is still going on
the fail is getting higher with every page

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

if the rennigan gives the user's it's shared vision. If one of them were to get caught in a genjutsu won't all the pains be under a genjetsu? just wondering.

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

I pray to god that one day they call Sasuke "Lord of the EMO!, Sasugay"

lmao sasugay hahahahaha that's funny i got to admit xD

 

[Sasuke RKO]

sasuke has a chance... a slight one

 

[EYES OF ITACHI]

sasuke's my fav character N still doubt he can beat pain....there just bringing to much to the table at one time

 

[kral]

How does sauske fight the camouflage summon? Put summing and naraka path in there n wear sauske out with summons. Same as jman fight.

Genjutsu normal ones wont work because of the chakra receivers in the pains. Looks what happened when jman got one in him he couldn't use chakra cuz it was disturbing it.

Summons+revive ability + c/t+missiles +shared vision+master of all elements

 

[nika1994]

It might have been, but I personally thought some of it was interesting, I understand its out of date but it fits the time of the fight were talking about I saposse. Im not behin on my manga... Altho I can admit, I dont get why everyone always uses the Japanese names when the mention a jutsu. I dont understand them not caring to learn there names in jappanese since im... English I think I may make a thread about that.... Anyway...

i believe because Mangekyou Sharingan sounds a lot better than "Kaleidoscope Copy wheel eye"

 

[Capn FlapJak]

if the rennigan gives the user's it's shared vision. If one of them were to get caught in a genjutsu won't all the pains be under a genjetsu? just wondering.

Ok so the point of this is to explain y i think shared vision doesnt = 6 paths under genjutsu

As most of us kno genjutsu works by inserting your chakra into your
opponents brain area of chakra network makein them feel/see what u want

Now lots of people think Tsukuyomi 1 pain all fall but the paths only share vision not chakra and its the chakra affecting your chakra network thats creates the genjutsu

My reasonin as to y paths dont share chakra is preta path
It sucked up narutos sage chakra yet it was the only 1 to turn to stone

This also brings to light the fact that chakra absorbed by preta path benefit only that path if that wasnt the case nagato would have had more chakra from what preta path got from village

On a side note
plz people nagato isnt weak to genjutsu ..the toads said j man
was never good at genjutsu so pain wouldnt see it comeing
And when he was caught he praised j man sayin i never thought u
would have such a poweful genjutsu so ya genjutsu is every1s weakness

 

[ninjamos]

if the rennigan gives the user's it's shared vision. If one of them were to get caught in a genjutsu won't all the pains be under a genjetsu? just wondering.

No on Manny Manny accounts. They dont share a brain or chakra networks (which genjutsu effects... Genjutsu efects y ou through ur sences, but it doesnt affect ur sences) also theoretically there vision are like the mirror used to see Medusa (as said before). Theres also the thought that if gen-jutsu doesnt work on regular sharingan, it wont work on rinnagon. theres also plain release jutsu and stratagese. (I also wanna mention, no one has truely addressed the AMA absorbsion problem. As said it is made of chakra and once absorbed it will exist as chakra. Btw, it is ”said” that its unextinguishable cause it Burman forever and never dims, but on the account that Sasuke EXTINGUISHED it, im beginning to think less of it.)

 

[severjano]

here we ****ing Go again ms sasuke nope he die ems he going to win it must otherwise the gap between naruto is to great everyone say preta path will absorb als his chakra bla bla wel if naruto (sage mode) beat al of them an if jmain beat 3 including that absorbing pain im pretty sure ems sasuke find a way to beat all of them hes ****ing keen ninja ems sasuke is stronger then sage mode so i.m sure he wins ems sasuke his sharingan tech are almost unlimited he beat pain for sure my reason i think is that there are just many people who hate sasuke emo gay bla bla dam shit haters

 

[ninjamos]

I hate all sasuke haters..U guyz only hate dis guy just bcos he left konoha and hated everything in it and even with d aim of destroying it of which he has a good reason for making dat decision if not u haters wil nt exist..U purposely close ur eyes to sasukes talent and u decide to say all sort of nonsense u hypocrites...Now listen up..Sasuke cnt beat pein..He will kill him..4 God sake power is no where to b found near knowledge and we all know pein lacks dis and stil we all know sasuke is a skilled and knowledgeable genius with unimaginable powers..Dat alone is an advantage over pein..All sasuke needs is to discover d 5secs interval of which he wil discover it and pein is a dead duck..He has neva seen or heard izanagi b4 yet he applied his brains when fighting with danzou and he won..D same with deidara...4 d summons,.Amaterasu is enof..I wonder how they will escape 4rm genjutsu..And sasuke in d susanoo which is the best defence till date wil tidy up the 5 path..D arrow..D amaterasu wielded by d susanoo..Even a punch 4rm d susanoo is ten times d punch of naruto in sage mode..And who sayz kirin wil b absorbed..Kirin is faster than sound..D only option they av is to take a direct hit and rot in hell cos when it comes down.There z absolutely nothing u can do...The only way itachi survived was through susanoo and even d susanoo at first was reduced to nothing,,dats y we saw itachi lying face down on the ground..Get it straight..What u see coming is what u can absorb...Haters of sasuke...Ure all fakes...

Dont bag on all Sasuke haters, some of us have true hate over his character. I have since the seires began. + in my opinion, some one isnt worth hating if there a weak peace of nothing that can be pushed over, + im not a fan of pain, so im not apposed to Sasuke winning, but I honestly dont think Sasuke can. im not sure anyone alive can but madara maybe... Now that would be a fight ^^

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

Ok so the point of this is to explain y i think shared vision doesnt = 6 paths under genjutsu

As most of us kno genjutsu works by inserting your chakra into your
opponents brain area of chakra network makein them feel/see what u want

Now lots of people think Tsukuyomi 1 pain all fall but the paths only share vision not chakra and its the chakra affecting your chakra network thats creates the genjutsu

My reasonin as to y paths dont share chakra is preta path
It sucked up narutos sage chakra yet it was the only 1 to turn to stone

This also brings to light the fact that chakra absorbed by preta path benefit only that path if that wasnt the case nagato would have had more chakra from what preta path got from village

On a side note
plz people nagato isnt weak to genjutsu ..the toads said j man
was never good at genjutsu so pain wouldnt see it comeing
And when he was caught he praised j man sayin i never thought u
would have such a poweful genjutsu so ya genjutsu is every1s weakness

Excellent explanation thanks

 

[severjano]

How does sauske fight the camouflage summon? Put summing and naraka path in there n wear sauske out with summons. Same as jman fight.

Genjutsu normal ones wont work because of the chakra receivers in the pains. Looks what happened when jman got one in him he couldn't use chakra cuz it was disturbing it.

Summons+revive ability + c/t+missiles +shared vision+master of all elements

sasuke can see that camouflage whit eas did you forget that the sharingan can detect chakra so he wont be invisible for sasuke and sasuke doesnt have only normal genjutsu his genjust andaces over time its not a normal genjustu otherwise he wasnt able to break itachi,s tjukiomi and especaly ems must have awsome genjutsu

 

[ninjamos]

here we ****ing Go again ms sasuke nope he die ems he going to win it must otherwise the gap between naruto is to great everyone say preta path will absorb als his chakra bla bla wel if naruto (sage mode) beat al of them an if jmain beat 3 including that absorbing pain im pretty sure ems sasuke find a way to beat all of them hes ****ing keen ninja ems sasuke is stronger then sage mode so i.m sure he wins ems sasuke his sharingan tech are almost unlimited he beat pain for sure my reason i think is that there are just many people who hate sasuke emo gay bla bla dam shit haters

Naruto and jman didnt just beat the pains in 1 on 1 fights, jboy was nothing against 6 of them. And pain couldnt go all out on Naruto yet it was still a pretty one sided fight for the most part. Naruto had help, please understand that sage Naruto cant beat pain 1 on 1 and as u said, the gap between Sasuke and Naruto isnt that big so it makes sence that Sasuke cant either

 

[Frikid]

a bunch of ignorant fools!

sasuke can easily beat 6pop with mid difficulty

 

[severjano]

Naruto and jman didnt just beat the pains in 1 on 1 fights, jboy was nothing against 6 of them. And pain couldnt go all out on Naruto yet it was still a pretty one sided fight for the most part. Naruto had help, please understand that sage Naruto cant beat pain 1 on 1 and as u said, the gap between Sasuke and Naruto isnt that big so it makes sence that Sasuke cant either

mabey you got your point but you forget something the only thing what killed those 3 where genjutsu right and only that shot and they cant do a thing so sasuke the genjutsu specialist i.m sure he wil find a way to put them under that genjutsu plus he has more 100 tricks up his sleeve ms not he die but ems wil win and the gap is great if ems sasuke isnt stronger then sage mode naruto so 1 thing is sure he has more chance to win then sage naruto

 

[severjano]

a bunch of ignorant fools!

sasuke can easily beat 6pop with mid difficulty

dont think ms sasuke but ems sasuke will