Why "Borrowed power" isnt borrowed power

[BlazeRelease]

Borrowing: Borrow or borrowing can mean: to receive (something) from somebody temporarily, expecting to return it.
Naruto is not returning Kurama's Charka therefore it is not a borrowed power

Separate power?

Again, they don't literally mean borrowed.
It means power from another's source.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Every character in naruto has borrowed power considering charka came from the God tree. So everyone technically has borrow from kaguya bloodline limits etc . And kaguya borrowed power from the God tree so in essence every character in naruto stole or borrowed power .


Enough of the borrow power bullshit no one in naruto has done anything on there own .

 

[spade3dg]

Naruto literally asks Kurama and the biju for chakra...

How's it NOT borrowing? That's a better question.

There is a difference between asking and demanding. He didnt ask. He demanded. Which isnt borrowing. Also all the other bijuu willingly gave him the power. He didnt ask for it.

Borrowed power doesn't literally mean borrowed power, it refers to power obtained from another being by whatever means, for example, a bijuu,edo tensei, or summoning jutsu (to an extent.)

Whether or not borrowed power is a flawed argument and whether or not it should be counted in a vs match is entirely subjective though.


But personally to me, jinchurikis are 1 vs 2.

I understand where youre coming from, but I dont see it as a 1 vs 2 unless it is 3 beings fighting in the same fight. Its still technically 1 vs 1. Just one oerson has another power inside of them that they could use.

 

[nightwolf888]

Naruto powersource since day one has been through the ninetails , god, thisis crap , if you haters hate nautos powersourcee so much , go back in time and tell kish naruto should some other power since it somehow makes it less cool that naruto uses demons

 

[Unbiased]

Borrowing: Borrow or borrowing can mean: to receive (something) from somebody temporarily, expecting to return it.
Naruto is not returning Kurama's Charka therefore it is not a borrowed power

Here's more proof it's not borrowed. Naruto separated his chakra from the kyuubi and then they become one again and merged their chakra.

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And check out this link, it shows jiraiaya stating the seals used and the kyuubi's chakra merges with naruto's naturally.

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[SayWhat21]

"Borrowed Power" is just a cheap excuse for someone to downplay a character's achievements.

this..............

 

[spade3dg]

Every character in naruto has borrowed power considering charka came from the God tree. So everyone technically has borrow from kaguya bloodline limits etc . And kaguya borrowed power from the God tree so in essence every character in naruto stole or borrowed power .


Enough of the borrow power bullshit no one in naruto has done anything on there own .

They dodnt borrow the chakra since they were born with it. They just didnt know how to use it. Which is why the sage went around teaching ninshuu and how to use the power.


None of it is borrowed.

 

[Uzumaki Ray]

Doesn't matter ,in the end its the sum total that matters..

Naruto received hell for being a jin and had to go through a gruelling training to achieve KCM and Kurama's consent( another difficult task) for TBM.In the end he earned it,if being a bijuu meant you had power that easily you'd have perfect jins like bee and Naruto everywhere but Naruto and bee are the only ones out the several jin that have existed.Hence,they earned their power.

Their power is not borrowed, it has been earned through sweat and blood.They did something that 99.99% of the NV populace including Sasuke is incapable of.The suffering they went throughtalso counts in.What they did was not as easy as having an eye transplant ot dna implant..

Also,this would make juubito's and juubi madara having "borrowed power" without having to fight a mind battle with the juubi.

 

[spade3dg]

Naruto powersource since day one has been through the ninetails , god, thisis crap , if you haters hate nautos powersourcee so much , go back in time and tell kish naruto should some other power since it somehow makes it less cool that naruto uses demons

The thing is, he also has sage mode. That is something he learned himself, without having to draw on another being. That wasnt a handout or "Borrowed power" its a learned ability.



Also. The jin has to learn to control the power of the bijuu. So it is definitely not borrowed, but earned

 

[RoguePatriot]

So they earned getting the SO6P's power, I don't think so.

 

[Meee]

Naruto using Kurama's chakra is no different from when Obito used Sakura's to save Sasuke, If you are getting it form another being it aint yours, Kurama's location doesnt change this even Naruto HIMSELF acknowledges Kurama as a person and that its his power. EMS and above isnt your own natural power either.

That being said i couldnt care less that Naruto uses it he was able to befirend Kurama, Cool.

 

[Element Master]

Separate power?

Again, they don't literally mean borrowed.
It means power from another's source.

then Barrowed is the wrong word

 

[VangBro95]

Well then shouldn't swords and kunai or all weapons considered being borrowed power also then? I mean they aren't cutting the threw the object, the weapon is.

 

[TrollKing]

The thing is, he also has sage mode. That is something he learned himself, without having to draw on another being. That wasnt a handout or "Borrowed power" its a learned ability.



Also. The jin has to learn to contol the power of the bijuu. So it is definitely not borrowed, but earned

When you borrow something, you need to know how to use it. If you don't know how to use the borrowed goods, you have to learn to use it. After you learnt it, its still borrowed goods

 

[Unbiased]

So they earned getting the SO6P's power, I don't think so.

Well they lived long enough to get it. Surviving against the ten tails, Juubito V1, Juubito V2, and Madara So6P even if they barely and I mean barely lived it still means they earned it.

 

[nightwolf888]

The thing is, he also has sage mode. That is something he learned himself, without having to draw on another being. That wasnt a handout or "Borrowed power" its a learned ability.



Also. The jin has to learn to control the power of the bijuu. So it is definitely not borrowed, but earned

i know it's not but tell them that, they think that because the chakra lives it somehow not the users power or makes them look weak, i would haved like to seen kishi give more to naruto's sage mode though

 

[shadowcb]

All of this borrowed power argument is stupid because Kishi has made it clear all power and chakra originates from the 10 tails (entity). The differences are how they receive their powers and the type of power. Some are lucky enough to receive theirs through their bloodline and others received their power through other means. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

 

[TrollKing]

Well then shouldn't swords and kunai or all weapons considered being borrowed power also then? I mean they aren't cutting the threw the object, the weapon is.

Pretty much, but these "weapons"are weaker than udon's fists considering not even amaterasu nor bijuudama rasenshuriken can kill one person

 

[Unbiased]

All of this borrowed power argument is stupid because Kishi has made it clear all power and chakra originates from the 10 tails. The differences are how they receive their powers and the type of power. Some are lucky enough to receive theirs through their bloodline and others received their power through other means. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

and some people like lee never get any lol

 

[shadowcb]

and some people like lee never get any lol

Wrong. We have seen Lee walk on top of water so he uses chakra and he uses the "gates". A technique that increases in chakra flow in ones body.