Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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For one It wasn't Gods fault for any of this happening it outline it the 1st book of the Bible. 2nd the reason for all of the bad stuff that happens to us is sin plain and simple we fell and let sin into our lives, and as a fallen world we have to face bad things. 3rd he doesn't just sit around and watch everyday he asks us to come to him willingly, and by faith walk in him. In the promise that the riches we have waiting for us in heaven far exceed that of our wildest imagination. Its shown all throughout the Bible to those who follow him good things come. God gave up is only son to save us all from our sins and all he asked is for us to come to him willingly, whole-heartily, to walk by faith, and not by only what we see. No matter who you are, no matter what sin you committed through Jesus we are all forgiven. That doesn't mean we won't be judged that just means when the time comes to be judge that instead of being judged based solely on our sins, that Jesus will stand before God himself and say this man, or woman has known me, and is pardoned for all they done. You're right though we can't just sit and say that we believe, and expect things to happen because of it. You have to walk by faith and like what Jesus say in Luke 9:23"Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me."

i'll respect your views and what you have said despite im not that religious, but one thing first, im refering to those are the inocents and are suffering and surrounder by what you would called the sinners, they live in daily fear and i dont think they have the time or the will and hope to even think of the idea that they will pull through as they see others dying or suffering beside them(for the most part im refering to certain nations in africa, but it aint just africa), thats why they need a helping hand to show them that there is hope that things can change and that they have the power to do so, but again, they need someone, and if god exists, you'd think god would intervene on this 'special scenario' this aint your every day man or woman with a sucky life in a 2nd or 1st world country, im talking about those that live in slave-***** houses for children, under the tyranny and rule of warlords, dictators, and slave masters who force them to dig the earth till they drop, you'd think that in at least those kind of scenarios ther would be intervention
 
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i'll respect your views and what you have said despite im not that religious, but one thing first, im refering to those are the inocents and are suffering and surrounder by what you would called the sinners, they life in daily fear and i dont think they have the time or the will and hope to even think of the idea that they will pull through as they see others dying or suffering beside them(for the most part im refering to certain nations in africa, but it aint just africa), thats why they need a helping hand to show them that there is hope that things can change and that they have the power to do so, but again, they need someone, and if god exists, you'd think god would intervene on this 'special scenario' this aint your every day man or woman with a sucky life in a 2nd or 1st world country, im talking about those that live in slave-***** houses for children, under the tyranny and rule of warlords, dictators, and slave masters who forced to dig the earth till they drop, you'd think that in at least those kind of scenarios ther would be intervention

God helps he send his own people to help these people, he acts in indirect ways. He will use people to do his will to for a greater good, and lives are saved. But like I said before we live in a fallen world, a world embracing sin, and as hard as it accept let alone explain its the truth. No man or woman can say "I have not sinned", and many must suffer, and die for what we as a race did. But here is the ultimate kicker, and what many people don't get or fathom is that death isn't the end. To die doesn't mean the end its more of a transition than anything else. And through all the pain and suffering we face today and in this life, that is temporary, we have far greater riches in heaven. Now in my opinion I believe that even though you can live a life not knowing God or even refusing to believe in him. That when we die that we will stand before Jesus and he will ask us one more time to follow him and believe in him. I also believe at that moment that many who have suffered, and died not knowing him with acknowledge him and give their souls to him. I also believe that there will be some who will stand in front of him and still refuse and those are the people who will be judged by their sins. Once people can grasp the fact that this life is just a prologue to something greater death will no longer fear anyone. But it is also something not to be wasted, but a way to earn that greater something.
 

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What is Religion?The believe and worship of a supreme God Or Deity. Now normally i will scroll at times when i am not busy reading all the comments but let me lay it out here once and for all for all of you,the three core religions on earth are Christianity,Islam,and traditional(Includes myths)I am speaking and referring to Christianity now I will be Given Proof and relevant statements Below.


Christianity
This is one of the oldest religions and has been here for thousands of years,it is based on a man known as the Savior of the world in Christianity ,called Jesus Christ the proof of his birth goes back to early Jerusalem and up to today the ruins and Jesus birth place are there this are proof,that Jesus existed and there is truly a God,also lets look at the Vatican with it,s history of popes me being a catholic will now ask you do you think every things all those history about the Vatican from 1st pope peter to pope Benedict is fabricated ,i am sorry but that is a fact that you don't want to know the truth,how do you explain people who have cancer and the doctor said they have little time to live surviving for years and in rare situations cured not because of medicine but because of God,atheist believe in the bang which for me is quite strange because would you rather believe a man(Jesus is God or the son of God)or believe that the earth with water and high mountains exploded and came about in a day and there was magical oxygen,there is an extent to wishful thinking as we all know,that in my opinion is complete fabrication of the truth ,if you don't believe in God then you don,t believe in miracles and good and evil because we all know if there is evil there is always good that is a simple fact of humanity and human life which we all know each sides has its opposites so saying religion does not exist is saying there is no balance thus only evil or only good or neither good nor evil,we shall all die one day and i wonder what you think will happen,this life is not our dwelling place,so suggest you atheists start changing your way of life i wont force anybody or force you to convert but i will persuade you in a civilized manner .Lets look at the things the last book of the bible says which is Revelation and manifest or channel it into our daily community it said there will be wars,and oppression,>>struggle in Libya>>India struggle of to make the No Pall Bill Be Used,Also so many things are going around which was foretold by the bible so please you guys just give Christianity a chance a blind man cannot say a woman is ugly because he does not have eyes and has not seen her so please don't give up on Christianity or religion give it a try try going to church or any religious place of worship and try it just believe and if you have tried and you still don't see well i can only wish the best for you.
 

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Unless I get some evidence of higher being I will not believe. Ghosts, zombies, angelss, vampires, unicorns and gods are the same for me. Part of imagination.
 

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What is Religion?The believe and worship of a supreme God Or Deity. Now normally i will scroll at times when i am not busy reading all the comments but let me lay it out here once and for all for all of you,the three core religions on earth are Christianity,Islam,and traditional(Includes myths)I am speaking and referring to Christianity now I will be Given Proof and relevant statements Below.


Christianity
This is one of the oldest religions and has been here for thousands of years,it is based on a man known as the Savior of the world in Christianity ,called Jesus Christ the proof of his birth goes back to early Jerusalem and up to today the ruins and Jesus birth place are there this are proof,that Jesus existed and there is truly a God,also lets look at the Vatican with it,s history of popes me being a catholic will now ask you do you think every things all those history about the Vatican from 1st pope peter to pope Benedict is fabricated ,i am sorry but that is a fact that you don't want to know the truth,how do you explain people who have cancer and the doctor said they have little time to live surviving for years and in rare situations cured not because of medicine but because of God,atheist believe in the bang which for me is quite strange because would you rather believe a man(Jesus is God or the son of God)or believe that the earth with water and high mountains exploded and came about in a day and there was magical oxygen,there is an extent to wishful thinking as we all know,that in my opinion is complete fabrication of the truth ,if you don't believe in God then you don,t believe in miracles and good and evil because we all know if there is evil there is always good that is a simple fact of humanity and human life which we all know each sides has its opposites so saying religion does not exist is saying there is no balance thus only evil or only good or neither good nor evil,we shall all die one day and i wonder what you think will happen,this life is not our dwelling place,so suggest you atheists start changing your way of life i wont force anybody or force you to convert but i will persuade you in a civilized manner .Lets look at the things the last book of the bible says which is Revelation and manifest or channel it into our daily community it said there will be wars,and oppression,>>struggle in Libya>>India struggle of to make the No Pall Bill Be Used,Also so many things are going around which was foretold by the bible so please you guys just give Christianity a chance a blind man cannot say a woman is ugly because he does not have eyes and has not seen her so please don't give up on Christianity or religion give it a try try going to church or any religious place of worship and try it just believe and if you have tried and you still don't see well i can only wish the best for you.


This isn't what every Christian thinks. Please don't base your opinion on Christian's because of things said like this.

Believe in what you want to believe in. I'm a Christian, I don't care what people think about my decision. God isn't for you? Fine, I hope you can find something else

I personally believe, but that doesn't mean that others should
 

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lol. Who told you there a was a God? a man?......religion=man made

and, who told you there wasn't a God? a man?.......science=man made

man is man made. the necesscity to back up your faith or lack of is insecurity leaking for you weakened state of mind. Don't look to facts and proof and others for answers, look inside yourself and know. Im neither a atheist nor a religous person. I'll decide that when I die. lol

That means you are agnostic.
 

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Believe in what you want to believe in....

...I personally believe, but that doesn't mean that others should

This is what I think. I personally don't believe but think faith must be nice if you have it. We should be free to choose our own belief systems
 

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This isn't what every Christian thinks. Please don't base your opinion on Christian's because of things said like this.

Believe in what you want to believe in. I'm a Christian, I don't care what people think about my decision. God isn't for you? Fine, I hope you can find something else

I personally believe, but that doesn't mean that others should

Then you are wrong as followers of Christ we are sent to spread the Word and try and bring people to God, not let people past on by. Doesn't mean force it upon them, but instead to help them see, and go willingly to God
 

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all churches--at some point--get corrupted. however, it doesn't matter in what you choose to believe... it's belief itself that keeps "religion" going. the Egyptian religion/mythology lasted over 4000 years, while Christianity is barely at 2000 years. We call it Egyptian Mythology, so should we also say Christian Mythology? or is Christianity so current that it's no myth...? i don't know... also, i don't believe that u must believe in the Bible to believe in God... Religion and belief are different...

i wanna start by saying im a christian but i dont believe in religion because religion is a man made thing that can be corrupted imo ppl are driven away from the faith in god thru jesus because of extremist religion because they try to judge ppl when thats gods job it says in the bible that jesus went and died for us in the cross so the sins of the flesh can be forgiven and that from that day we are judge by our sins from the heart/soul not for the ones on our flesh religion is man searching for god Christianity is god searching for man so cant point my finger on gays for example and say that they are not saved because god loves them the same way he loves me it says in the bible that the man that choose gods way changes on his own free will so we cant force ppl to change because thats how atheists are born
 
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Then you are wrong as followers of Christ we are sent to spread the Word and try and bring people to God, not let people past on by. Doesn't mean force it upon them, but instead to help them see, and go willingly to God

So I'm not doing my job as a Christian because I refuse to force my religion on to others?

Ok.
 

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So I'm not doing my job as a Christian because I refuse to force my religion on to others?

Ok.

Where in the world did get force your religion on to others, from "Doesn't mean force it upon them, but instead to help them see, and go willingly to God" Did you even read what I wrote?
 

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this is the main reason I hate christians. Thanking god is extremely stupid. Even on dinner table what I believe is american custom.

why do you have to hate Christian why can you just disagree with them? oh yea and your pic is way too small for me to read, or my laptop won't let me zoom in on it enough to actually read what it says.
 

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why do you have to hate Christian why can you just disagree with them? oh yea and your pic is way too small for me to read, or my laptop won't let me zoom in on it enough to actually read what it says.

Hmm strange it worked a minute ago. But sorry I really don't hate all christians. Except the kind like Westboro Baptist Church.
 

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That means you are agnostic.

lol. if you want to label me that. would you call someone a christian if he only believed in God and not the following of christ? well you really can't be agnostic, its not a creed but a method and I don't even believe in that. Its complicated. Religion and spirituality isn't something you follow by the book and label easily at least for me, and to me its not about know everything or having all the answers, its about knowing enough for your well being and actually believeing in what you are saying. But if thats how you see it then who am I to tell you your wrong? :)

but hey if you don't get lost chance are you'll never be found right?
 

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this is the main reason I hate christians. Thanking god is extremely stupid. Even on dinner table what I believe is american custom.

i would like to hear why you think thanking god is stupid but without disrespecting please
 

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Hmm strange it worked a minute ago. But sorry I really don't hate all christians. Except the kind like Westboro Baptist Church.

Yea the people like the Westboro Bapist Church are extremely misguided, and really shouldn't be considered Christians they make me very sad.
 

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i would like to hear why you think thanking god is stupid but without disrespecting please

When people get food they thank God thinking God has blessed them (does he not treat us all equally?). When black people starve to death they say God does not help people. Why would you thank someone who did nothing for it?

But I'm sorry for my earlier words.
 
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Is it that hard to understand that I don't believe in things I don't have proofs or logical explanation for?
 
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