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We have the resources to use our intelligence to its full capacity, but that doesn't mean we are the smartest.
No your wrong the average human only uses up to 10% of their brain. We don't use our intelligence to its full capacity but just more effectively due to our brains being larger than the other species of the animal kingdom.

But yeah I get the gist of what your saying.
 

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you know at one point i was wondering about the 8 inner gates but i never treid to look it up, and teh oter thing is that these people who would be considered masters on it, theyve spent their lifes since little kids, the only knwoledge i found on the web was about the chi ball practice but that was hard, idk why but the first time i did it, it almost came out a bit natural, but after that i had to concentrate and take my time more, i only do it from time to time when im bored though,lol

yea, the eight inner gates is a dangerous practice, it really shouldn't be practiced, because their is a spiritual side to it that could trigger something to go wrong.. lol i believe in that chi stuff also, and i don't go by logic of this world, because people made logic. to me logic i man made in a way, because there are so many unexplainable things in this world. after all these years, even einstein was proven wrong..

humans focus too much on numbers and calculations, when alot of times, that stuff doesn't even apply. humans stereotype things to much, that is why i carry an open mind.
 

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I'm atheist and it's clear to me that there is no GOD (ignore if you practice religious beliefs of any kind)
Furthermore idk if you know your doing it or not but your somewhat trying to FORCE your religion on to atheists and that is what pisses me of people trying to convert others to their religious beliefs.
People are who they are just let them be and don't make religious threads they always end up in debates where half the people are extremists and the other half are completely just idiotic.
I'm sure your aware that these threads are pointless and just agitate others so just try to hold back on these religious threads...

Just a question, but what makes you so sure that God isn't real?
 
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yea, the eight inner gates is a dangerous practice, it really shouldn't be practiced, because their is a spiritual side to it that could trigger something to go wrong.. lol i believe in that chi stuff also, and i don't go by logic of this world, because people made logic. to me logic i man made in a way, because there are so many unexplainable things in this world. after all these years, even einstein was proven wrong..

humans focus too much on numbers and calculations, when alot of times, that stuff doesn't even apply. humans stereotype things to much, that is why i carry an open mind.

exactly my point
 

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Look man, it's better not to make these threads, they end up pretty bad, people start to bash their ideas, but none of them can't agree with each other.... There is a God ! Why are you breathing right now? Do you think all of this came from the Big-Bang, the human cells itself? Please cut these craps, there's a God above us! Do you have any proof that HE doesn't exists? DO YOU?
 
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and now without further ado: THIS...HAS..BECOME........A BATMAN/SPIDY THREAD

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...what do atheists have to lose to believe in a religion?

Is it because you just want freedom in general from practicing any religious beliefs?

I don't mind the question being raised at all but I do find the first statement strange. I don't know why I don't believe in a god - I just don't. I believe when I die my body breaks up and becomes a part of everything again. I will just end. This isn't sad, it just is. I don't want to pretend to believe in something else 'just in case'

On the second statement don't assume that atheists or agnostics don't have their own moral code because many of us do and I have never been work shy

I hope you don't mind my comments :)
 

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No your wrong the average human only uses up to 10% of their brain. We don't use our intelligence to its full capacity but just more effectively due to our brains being larger than the other species of the animal kingdom.

But yeah I get the gist of what your saying.

Please do some research before claiming someone is wrong. That 10% use of brain statement was a simple myth created in the 80s, and has been proven incorrect long ago.
 
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Look man, it's better not to make these threads, they end up pretty bad, people start to bash their ideas, but none of them can't agree with each other.... There is a God ! Why are you breathing right now? Do you think all of this came from the Big-Bang, the human cells itself? Please cut these craps, there's a God above us! Do you have any proof that HE doesn't exists? DO YOU?

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you arent contributing with agreement, besides some of us came to the conclusion that there might and might not be a higher power, and if so it can be more than one, and besides it would be stupid to deny cellular respiration and the very basics of the reasons for why theres oxygen in this planet and why youre alive to type something like that, and do YOU have proof he or she:D exists, thats the point here, nobody should say anything about being absolutley okay with a set belief because we are nobody to be jumping to conclusions whithout any type of proof, yes i know you'll say its about faith, but if you say that then you're not getting my point
 

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Just wanted to comment on the science vs religion debate over there, that no matter how much you try to prove your point, the other has a ''good answer'' like religious people say: The big bang couldn't happen by itself you know? or ''there just isn't enough proof :/

+ Devil worship is worshipping Lucifer/Devil, Satanism well, just read this, it should clear it well enough...



PS your link isn't working...

well i guess that makes sense..... but itsnt this the same as being an athiest cause you dont believe in a god
 

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We ARE the smartest race of animals on the planet. Look at how poorly designed we are next to the rest of the animal kingdom. If we WERENT the smartest, we wouldnt have evolved in the manner we did. The ONLY reason we are on top of the food chain is our superior intelligence over all other animals.

The term 'smart' means intelligence, and intelligence means the ability to acquire and apply knowledge. We humans do not have restraints such as relying on an environment such as a ocean or jungle to survive, and our limbs allow us to use our knowledge in ways that other animals such as dolphins would not be able too. We have the ability to roam the world freely, which has given the human race much knowledge. But whose to say Dolphins, who have brains similar to humans and are known to learn very fast, would not achieve feats similar to ours if they had the advantage of our limbs and survival out of the ocean.

We merely have advantages over many animals, but that does not mean they do not have the same capacity to gain the same level of knowledge we have if given the chance.
 
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and another thing, if the idea of god( a supreme being is a better statement since the term embraces every god whom are in fact the same god in every religion idk why people make it so complicated) is true, and if created this world, you'd think he have some feeling of responsibility and not just sit there watching how literally countless millions suffer and die out of hunger and thirst for both food and water, and for freedom from opression, slavery, pain, broken hearts, chaos, murder and rape, if he was so high and mighty he or she(forgot) wouldnt be sitting on his or her ass watching down on us...i used to think that if that supreme being does exist maybe he or she believes that we deserve our chance, some time so we can fix this world with our own two hands, well that guy or girl just got what he or she wanted because that's exactly what I will do in my life, im sick and tired of people thinking that the solution to their problems is gonna fall out of the sky like some miracle, because clearly it hasnt happend for over 2000 effing years
 

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and another thing, if the idea of god( a supreme being is a better statement since the term embraces every god whom are in fact the same god in every religion idk why people make it so complicated) is true, and if created this world, you'd think he have some feeling of responsibility and not just sit there watching how literally countless millions suffer and die out of hunger and thirst for both food and water, and for freedom from opression, slavery, pain, broken hearts, chaos, murder and rape, if he was so high and mighty he or she(forgot) wouldnt be sitting on his or her ass watching down on us...i used to think that if that supreme being does exist maybe he or she believes that we deserve our chance, some time so we can fix this world with our own two hands, well that guy or girl just got what he or she wanted because that's exactly what I will do in my life, im sick and tired of people thinking that the solution to their problems is gonna fall out of the sky like some miracle, because clearly it hasnt happend for over 2000 effing years

its all about free will my friend, and this

And God said, No!"


I asked God to take away my pain.
God told me no.
It's not my task to take it, but yours to let it go.

I asked God to make my child, who was handicapped, to be perfect.
God told me no.
His spirit is perfect, his body is only temporary.

I asked God to grant me patience.
God told me no.
Patience is a byproduct of tribulations. It is not given. It is earned.

I asked God to give me happiness.
God told me no.
I give you blessings. Happiness depends on you.

I asked God to protect me from pain.
God told me no.
Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares and brings you closer to me.

I asked God to make my spirit grow.
God told me no.
You have to grow up by yourself, but I will prune for you to bear fruit.

I asked God for all things that would make me enjoy life.
God told me no.
I give you life so you may enjoy all things.

I asked God to help me love others as much as He loves me.
God said: Ahhh! Finally you get the idea. "


"Love thy neighbour as thyself."
 
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its all about free will my friend, and this

And God said, No!"


I asked God to take away my pain.
God told me no.
It's not my task to take it, but yours to let it go.

I asked God to make my child, who was handicapped, to be perfect.
God told me no.
His spirit is perfect, his body is only temporary.

I asked God to grant me patience.
God told me no.
Patience is a byproduct of tribulations. It is not given. It is earned.

I asked God to give me happiness.
God told me no.
I give you blessings. Happiness depends on you.

I asked God to protect me from pain.
God told me no.
Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares and brings you closer to me.

I asked God to make my spirit grow.
God told me no.
You have to grow up by yourself, but I will prune for you to bear fruit.

I asked God for all things that would make me enjoy life.
God told me no.
I give you life so you may enjoy all things.

I asked God to help me love others as much as He loves me.
God said: Ahhh! Finally you get the idea. "


"Love thy neighbour as thyself."

in a sense thats what i said i guess, if anything is to change then i feel you have to do it yourself, if anything is to be aquired then you have to get it yourself, ive always liked to do things with my own will,means, and determination instead of having someone doing it for me,...not that i dont understand the concept of teamwork
 

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in a sense thats what i said i guess, if anything is to change then i feel you have to do it yourself, if anything is to be aquired then you have to get it yourself, ive always liked to do things with my own will,means, and determination instead of having someone doing it for me,...not that i dont understand the concept of teamwork

exactly.. that is why i believe GOD gave us our own free will, to see how far we can go with it, i feel that is a gift. but that is just my beliefs.. and i claim no religion.

does anyone believe in the devil? or demonic forces?
 

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lol. Who told you there a was a God? a man?......religion=man made

and, who told you there wasn't a God? a man?.......science=man made

man is man made. the necesscity to back up your faith or lack of is insecurity leaking for you weakened state of mind. Don't look to facts and proof and others for answers, look inside yourself and know. Im neither a atheist nor a religous person. I'll decide that when I die. lol
 

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and another thing, if the idea of god( a supreme being is a better statement since the term embraces every god whom are in fact the same god in every religion idk why people make it so complicated) is true, and if created this world, you'd think he have some feeling of responsibility and not just sit there watching how literally countless millions suffer and die out of hunger and thirst for both food and water, and for freedom from opression, slavery, pain, broken hearts, chaos, murder and rape, if he was so high and mighty he or she(forgot) wouldnt be sitting on his or her ass watching down on us...i used to think that if that supreme being does exist maybe he or she believes that we deserve our chance, some time so we can fix this world with our own two hands, well that guy or girl just got what he or she wanted because that's exactly what I will do in my life, im sick and tired of people thinking that the solution to their problems is gonna fall out of the sky like some miracle, because clearly it hasnt happend for over 2000 effing years

For one It wasn't Gods fault for any of this happening its outlined in the 1st book of the Bible. 2nd the reason for all of the bad stuff that happens to us is sin plain and simple we fell and let sin into our lives, and as a fallen world we have to face bad things. 3rd he doesn't just sit around and watch everyday he asks us to come to him willingly, and by faith walk in him. In the promise that the riches we have waiting for us in heaven far exceed that of our wildest imagination. Its shown all throughout the Bible to those who follow him good things come. God gave up is only son to save us all from our sins and all he asked is for us to come to him willingly, whole-heartily, to walk by faith, and not by only what we see. No matter who you are, no matter what sin you committed through Jesus we are all forgiven. That doesn't mean we won't be judged that just means when the time comes to be judge that instead of being judged based solely on our sins, that Jesus will stand before God himself and say this man, or woman has known me, and is pardoned for all they have done. You're right though we can't just sit and say that we believe, and expect things to happen because of it. You have to walk by faith and like what Jesus say in Luke 9:23"Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me."
 
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What do you people think of others being agnostic?
 
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lol. Who told you there a was a God? a man?......religion=man made

and, who told you there wasn't a God? a man?.......science=man made

man is man made. the necesscity to back up your faith or lack of is insecurity leaking for you weakened state of mind. Don't look to facts and proof and others for answers, look inside yourself and know. Im neither a atheist nor a religous person. I'll decide that when I die. lol

yea, you wont know until you die
 

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For one It wasn't Gods fault for any of this happening it outline it the 1st book of the Bible. 2nd the reason for all of the bad stuff that happens to us is sin plain and simple we fell and let sin into our lives, and as a fallen world we have to face bad things. 3rd he doesn't just sit around and watch everyday he asks us to come to him willingly, and by faith walk in him. In the promise that the riches we have waiting for us in heaven far exceed that of our wildest imagination. Its shown all throughout the Bible to those who follow him good things come. God gave up is only son to save us all from our sins and all he asked is for us to come to him willingly, whole-heartily, to walk by faith, and not by only what we see. No matter who you are, no matter what sin you committed through Jesus we are all forgiven. That doesn't mean we won't be judged that just means when the time comes to be judge that instead of being judged based solely on our sins, that Jesus will stand before God himself and say this man, or woman has known me, and is pardoned for all they don't. You're right though we can't just sit and say that we believe, and expect things to happen because of it. You have to walk by faith and like what Jesus say in Luke 9:23"Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me."
i love all of this... so true.. i can't deny this , and i don't claim a religion... " I am"
 
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