Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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kaka96

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Did i state that God was real?Learn to read and compreheind what i say.I stated why people beleive in God not that he is real.Now take that and go away because no one can prove anything.

"Did I say you were on of those? Learn to read and comprehend what I say"

Because this is exactly what I said and read what you wrote, it clearly implies that you believe that the existence of god is more logical.

"Good day sir,"
 

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Great topic.

As humans we often fight and bicker about our beliefs.For those of us that beleive in God we want to beleive in something that we can have faith in rather then ourselves.Having a God that is perfect and loveing to does he created is that idea we beleive in today.I personaly beleive in God but i do not follow in any form of religon.My family is christan and my step father is a pastor.Only naturaly i would beleive in the christian God,but when i actually looked at other religions that beleive in monotheism...each and everyone of them beleive in the same God.It's just that the people that wrote the bible or any other form of religous books that have changed their wording has corrupted the churches.It's because of this i do not follow any religon.

As for those that are Atheist can you actually beleive Man was created from a single cell?Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys.

I have read quite a number of posts in this threads. Both good arguements and bad ones. As for this "As for those that are Atheist can you actually beleive Man was created from a single cell?Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys."

There is evidence that one celled microorganisms have been able to evolve into organisms with a multitude of cells.

And for the question "Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys."

Ive read alot of posts by religious people saying that its wrong to say "Where is the evidence that god exsist?" So asking "Can you prove God is not real?" would be the same.

And sure most of the scientific statements are theory's because there are things that simply cannot be touched,felt,seen or smelled. As for instance a black hole. There is no one that have seen a black hole. Because it cannot be seen, which is why its called a black hole. Anything near a black hole would be sucked into a dense point from its massiv gravity. So no one has ever felt one. Still we have enough evidence that a black hole is real. Due to observing how things around it are effected by this black hole. A black hole seen in white and black on the paper, as a equation. It would still be a theory as there is no direct evidence. But from only observing its surrondings we are sure the black holes exsist. The same with god. There is only letters on paper's of gods divine power and his almighty self. There is no direct evidence of gods exsistance either. So it would still by definition be called a theory not fact. But what makes god real for christian's? The same thing that makes a athiest a athiest. The belief that there is something more then what we can touch and feel. Which is god. That belief makes god real to them allso what makes god imaginary for athiests. It would be wrong to require evidence from both parts as its not possible. There is only theory and belief to it.

Even tho im not religious myself, i think any religion is beautiful in itself. Having something to believe in. Something to answer the questions that science nor oneself cant answer about this universe. People that really believe in something are strong in my opinion. Anyone that strongly believe in something is strong.

There is only theory to back up our stories, and our science. But there is many very good arguements on both sides. One of the best arguements ive heard for christianity is "As the big bang happend 13,7 billion years ago. And the universe started to expand from a infinitive small point in space. as the universe arised from nothing, then what came before the big bang?" Its a very good question indeed. Science doesnt have the answer to that, but they have many good theories.
 
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The Koran? you mean the quran? and no! there is just as may mistakes in the quran than the bible.... not to mention the fundamentals of islam are easialy manipulated for violence, whereas christians at least have a spokeperson in the pope to contain the crazy!

point out one for me please and Islam has over 70 denominations and someone else pointed out that religion has changed over time and i completely agree Islam is nothing like it started out as but the denomination i am part of is fairly recent and so far it has answered most of my questions like i said before just pm if u have anything to say and my denomination also has a leader who we all follow and the violence debate u used well as i said religion has changed and these people are retarded stupid and dont know there own religion very well
 

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if you believe in god sow much than see it this way. god made me an atheist so dont try to go against the will of god
 

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The Koran? you mean the quran? and no! there is just as may mistakes in the quran than the bible.... not to mention the fundamentals of islam are easialy manipulated for violence, whereas christians at least have a spokeperson in the pope to contain the crazy!
Koran makes more sese then the Bible imao
 

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"Did I say you were on of those? Learn to read and comprehend what I say"

Because this is exactly what I said and read what you wrote, it clearly implies that you believe that the existence of god is more logical.

"Good day sir,"

Your quite the ignorant one.If i stated why people beleive in God and i said i beleive in God.It clearly states based on my original post that,that is why i beleive in God.In my original post i never clarifyed that beleiveing in God is more logical I just stated why people beleive in God.

Good day sir,
 

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The term 'smart' means intelligence, and intelligence means the ability to acquire and apply knowledge. We humans do not have restraints such as relying on an environment such as a ocean or jungle to survive, and our limbs allow us to use our knowledge in ways that other animals such as dolphins would not be able too. We have the ability to roam the world freely, which has given the human race much knowledge. But whose to say Dolphins, who have brains similar to humans and are known to learn very fast, would not achieve feats similar to ours if they had the advantage of our limbs and survival out of the ocean.

We merely have advantages over many animals, but that does not mean they do not have the same capacity to gain the same level of knowledge we have if given the chance.

Just as dolphins rely on the water, we rely on the land.
 

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if you believe in god sow much than see it this way. god made me an atheist so dont try to go against the will of god

God did'nt make you atheist you choose to be that.He just paved the two paths for you to take.It's just up to you to choose one.
 

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What is Religion?The believe and worship of a supreme God Or Deity. Now normally i will scroll at times when i am not busy reading all the comments but let me lay it out here once and for all for all of you,the three core religions on earth are Christianity,Islam,and traditional(Includes myths)I am speaking and referring to Christianity now I will be Given Proof and relevant statements Below.


Christianity
This is one of the oldest religions and has been here for thousands of years,it is based on a man known as the Savior of the world in Christianity ,called Jesus Christ the proof of his birth goes back to early Jerusalem and up to today the ruins and Jesus birth place are there this are proof,that Jesus existed and there is truly a God,also lets look at the Vatican with it,s history of popes me being a catholic will now ask you do you think every things all those history about the Vatican from 1st pope peter to pope Benedict is fabricated ,i am sorry but that is a fact that you don't want to know the truth,how do you explain people who have cancer and the doctor said they have little time to live surviving for years and in rare situations cured not because of medicine but because of God,atheist believe in the bang which for me is quite strange because would you rather believe a man(Jesus is God or the son of God)or believe that the earth with water and high mountains exploded and came about in a day and there was magical oxygen,there is an extent to wishful thinking as we all know,that in my opinion is complete fabrication of the truth ,if you don't believe in God then you don,t believe in miracles and good and evil because we all know if there is evil there is always good that is a simple fact of humanity and human life which we all know each sides has its opposites so saying religion does not exist is saying there is no balance thus only evil or only good or neither good nor evil,we shall all die one day and i wonder what you think will happen,this life is not our dwelling place,so suggest you atheists start changing your way of life i wont force anybody or force you to convert but i will persuade you in a civilized manner .Lets look at the things the last book of the bible says which is Revelation and manifest or channel it into our daily community it said there will be wars,and oppression,>>struggle in Libya>>India struggle of to make the No Pall Bill Be Used,Also so many things are going around which was foretold by the bible so please you guys just give Christianity a chance a blind man cannot say a woman is ugly because he does not have eyes and has not seen her so please don't give up on Christianity or religion give it a try try going to church or any religious place of worship and try it just believe and if you have tried and you still don't see well i can only wish the best for you.
Christianity is one of the NEWEST religions by the way. Hinduism being the oldest (by about 8,000 years)
 

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Your quite the ignorant one.If i stated why people beleive in God and i said i beleive in God.It clearly states based on my original post that,that is why i beleive in God.In my original post i never clarifyed that beleiveing in God is more logical I just stated why people beleive in God.

Good day sir,

Your post questioned the belief of atheist and not those of religious. This in my book is saying one is more logical than the other. If there a misunderstanding of thoughts , I do apologize about it but calling me an ignorant for this is not justified

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Just as dolphins rely on the water, we rely on the land.

We rely, but are not limited to, the land. Unlike dolphins, humans can go into other environments such as water as long as we have oxygen. Dolphins on the other hand can't. We merely have the physical advantage. My point still stands.
 

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Indeed it does.

Haven't answered my previous post... scientific theory related btw....


for those who said the quran made more sense, well maybe it does ut that isn't saying much!
 

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Your post questioned the belief of atheist and not those of religious. This in my book is saying one is more logical than the other. If there a misunderstanding of thoughts , I do apologize about it but calling me an ignorant for this is not justified

Good day,

If you read any other post i did question religons btw I did state i do not follow religon because it is flawed,So that only is questioning it.

Good day sir,
 

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I thought this thread was ended 10 pages ago with a Spiderman post?

Don't force me to do it again guys.
 

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If you read any other post i did question religons btw I did state i do not follow religon because it is flawed,So that only is questioning it.

Good day sir,

I did not read all post but I did read a good part. I did not see any of your other posts, If you did, I do apologize for it but it still doesn't justify your comment towards me. Never was I impolite or insulting .

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YES, the big bang theory has been proven with the discovery of Cosmic microwave background radiation. You need to bruch up on your science and learn what is intended when the words "scientific theory" are used instead of hypothesis. Please come up with a valid example....

Let me put it like this.If theorys are based on facts then why does these factual evidence constantly changes.For example(and i know this is not true but get wat im inputing)" If its proven that the apple grows from a tree and only a tree; and we beleived it for 50 years"Now we just seen an apple sprout from the ground as we observed it grow for 2 years.Therefore that original fact is false and must be changed.Science changes...or should i refer to the past scientific facts before the 20th century?
 

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Let me put it like this.If theorys are based on facts then why does these factual evidence constantly changes.For example(and i know this is not true but get wat im inputing)" If its proven that the apple grows from a tree and only a tree; and we beleived it for 50 years"Now we just seen an apple sprout from the ground as we observed it grow for 2 years.Therefore that original fact is false and must be changed.Science changes...or should i refer to the past scientific facts before the 20th century?

It's hard to understand where you are getting at here, my child.

Do you not trust "facts"?
 

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Let me put it like this.If theorys are based on facts then why does these factual evidence constantly changes.For example(and i know this is not true but get wat im inputing)" If its proven that the apple grows from a tree and only a tree; and we beleived it for 50 years"Now we just seen an apple sprout from the ground as we observed it grow for 2 years.Therefore that original fact is false and must be changed.Science changes...or should i refer to the past scientific facts before the 20th century?

I get ya on that one :|
 

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It's hard to understand where you are getting at here, my child.

Do you not trust "facts"?

Basically the fact changed from the apples only growing from trees which was stated in the past.Now in the future we observed that the apple grew from the ground without a tree.This proving that scientific facts change through out time.
 
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