Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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Uchiha Paulsama

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GOD works in mysterious ways, just think about why some people have great faith and believe.. think about it carefully.
 

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It's fun watching all you guys struggle to get your points across, lol Just let it go geeeze.
Anyway Eve spoke to a snake.. I can conclude that she in fact spoke parseltounge just like Voldemort.

Just saying guys.
 

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its not that i dont believe in god, but there are many flaws in the belief of him.

dont kill anyone, love all: hates gays and killed everyone on earth

show love and kindness: pharoah says no, kill children, not pharoah

no one shall use my name for ill-will: guy asks him to kill kids cuz they made fun of him, does it

forgivness: for christ's sake, eve ate the apple like 4000 years ago, get over it!

is all knowing: had to ask cain where abel was, had to look for adam and eve, knew that lucifer was gonna turn into satan and ruin the world, makes him anyway

the bible is always right: over 8000 proven translation mistakes, bible just happened to leave out the first 4 billion years of life

fossils: gods puzzle pieces?

works in mysterious ways: that just happen to be science and suddenly stops when videocameras rolled around

has the power to easily prove his existence and save billions and billions of lives: doesnt

something good happens, its me, something bad, all satan

satan kill count: about ten
god: billions

is gonna destroy the world, wants people to be saved: only tells old man in the middle of nowhere

can see the future: gets pissed when things go wrong

hmmm, im gonna save humanity by sending my son on a suicide mission: gets mad when he is killed, maybe it wouldve been easier to JUST NOT MAKE SIN POSSIBLE

puts adam and eve in a right or wrong situation: doesnt give them knowledge of right and wrong

THIS! +rep
 

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As far as I'm concerned. The only religions that appear peaceful and full of happiness to me are Buddhism, Islam and some small number of faiths in the far eastern countries like Japan and China.

I don't think Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism show tranquility. Christianity seems to dull and boring. I mean if you visit any churches, they seem kinda dark and abit weird. Judaism just looks creepy especially when you research into it. Why do you think Hitler was getting rid of them? Because of what they're doing in Israel to other religious group of people including babies and elderly. I say they're evil. Hinduism is too flashy and messy, they have a day of celebration when they colour themselves all over and it creates to much mess. It does not look right.

Last thing, sorry if I've offended anyone. This is just my point of view on religion and beliefs. Peace ☮
 

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Dont spam......Jesus is watching!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about? Spam? the very goal of this thread is to say why we are non-believers.
You're comment is much more of a spam IMO :|
 

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can i just point out that all atheists are saying this is wrong with the bible and i agree but u people dont realise that the bible is not the only holy book and i agree that the bible contradicts itself but maybe u should read the Koran
 

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can i just point out that all atheists are saying this is wrong with the bible and i agree but u people dont realise that the bible is not the only holy book and i agree that the bible contradicts itself but maybe u should read the Koran

thats another thing, how do we know that the holy books are right? for all we know the bible is right and the rest are wrong, vive versa or that they are all wrong.

also, many of the christians say "theyre wrong, were right,but all their bibles say the same thing except for a few differences in wording, so wouldnt that make them all fake if one is fake?
 

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The answer to everybody's question has to be somewhere in between God and Science, It's as simple as that. If science can't yet prove that God does not exist then there is a plausible room for something that say religion would have the answer for and in vice-versa. With Religion and God arise the questions and with science the search for answers.
 

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Great topic.

As humans we often fight and bicker about our beliefs.For those of us that beleive in God we want to beleive in something that we can have faith in rather then ourselves.Having a God that is perfect and loveing to does he created is that idea we beleive in today.I personaly beleive in God but i do not follow in any form of religon.My family is christan and my step father is a pastor.Only naturaly i would beleive in the christian God,but when i actually looked at other religions that beleive in monotheism...each and everyone of them beleive in the same God.It's just that the people that wrote the bible or any other form of religous books that have changed their wording has corrupted the churches.It's because of this i do not follow any religon.

As for those that are Atheist can you actually beleive Man was created from a single cell?Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys.
 

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thats another thing, how do we know that the holy books are right? for all we know the bible is right and the rest are wrong, vive versa or that they are all wrong.

also, many of the christians say "theyre wrong, were right,but all their bibles say the same thing except for a few differences in wording, so wouldnt that make them all fake if one is fake?

wat tells me the bible is wrong is that it contradicts itself and the Koran does not also a lot of science is also explained in the Koran but its much harder to understand my point is understanding the Koran is going to take more effort and also like Christianity there are many different denominations so u would have to research all of them as well so i make it a point to prove to people only face to face why ? because then i can give u books to read which basically explain a lot of ur questions but i cant remember it all now and i like talkin face to face anyway and im leavin this thread now so just pm me for any questions
 

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Great topic.

As humans we often fight and bicker about our beliefs.For those of us that beleive in God we want to beleive in something that we can have faith in rather then ourselves.Having a God that is perfect and loveing to does he created is that idea we beleive in today.I personaly beleive in God but i do not follow in any form of religon.My family is christan and my step father is a pastor.Only naturaly i would beleive in the christian God,but when i actually looked at other religions that beleive in monotheism...each and everyone of them beleive in the same God.It's just that the people that wrote the bible or any other form of religous books that have changed their wording has corrupted the churches.It's because of this i do not follow any religon.

As for those that are Atheist can you actually beleive Man was created from a single cell?Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys.

Believers have no more evidence of what they advance then scientist do.
Can you actually tell me where god came from if god was the one to create the world? God creating himself is as senseless as the world creating itself
 

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if you are interested in Atheism they are several books on the topic, I would personally recommend Christopher Hitchen's God is Not great : How religion poisons everything.

As for whether or not there is a god? The right question for me was even if there is a god, why praise or obey him? I could not come up with a resonnable answer, so i moved from atheism towards anti-theism.
 

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Great topic.

As humans we often fight and bicker about our beliefs.For those of us that beleive in God we want to beleive in something that we can have faith in rather then ourselves.Having a God that is perfect and loveing to does he created is that idea we beleive in today.I personaly beleive in God but i do not follow in any form of religon.My family is christan and my step father is a pastor.Only naturaly i would beleive in the christian God,but when i actually looked at other religions that beleive in monotheism...each and everyone of them beleive in the same God.It's just that the people that wrote the bible or any other form of religous books that have changed their wording has corrupted the churches.It's because of this i do not follow any religon.

As for those that are Atheist can you actually beleive Man was created from a single cell?Can you prove God is not real?You do realise most of these scientific statements are made up of mostly theorys.




there is logically no way to prove something DOESNT exist, as if something doesnt exist, they leave no evidence, including evidence of non-existence

however, the reason there are atheists is that there is way more evidence in evolution and science than in god.

lets take the universe for example: its always growing and their are millions of galaxies with billions of planets, but only one of them had life? what, did god just decide to bullshit time by creating extra planets for no reason?

physics state an object in motion stays in motion. the big bang caused the universe to expand at a very high rate. since there was no force equal to that or greater than the big bang to propel the universe in the opposite direction, it kept expanding

those are blocks of evidence as to why science might be the true way the universe was created

me: i believe god used the big bang to create the universe
 

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Believers have no more evidence of what they advance then scientist do.
Can you actually tell me where god came from if god was the one to create the world? God creating himself is as senseless as the world creating itself

Did i state that God was real?Learn to read and compreheind what i say.I stated why people beleive in God not that he is real.Now take that and go away because no one can prove anything.

Good day sir,
 

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there is logically no way to prove something DOESNT exist, as if something doesnt exist, they leave no evidence, including evidence of non-existence

however, the reason there are atheists is that there is way more evidence in evolution and science than in god.

lets take the universe for example: its always growing and their are millions of galaxies with billions of planets, but only one of them had life? what, did god just decide to bullshit time by creating extra planets for no reason?

physics state an object in motion stays in motion. the big bang caused the universe to expand at a very high rate. since there was no force equal to that or greater than the big bang to propel the universe in the opposite direction, it kept expanding

those are blocks of evidence as to why science might be the true way the universe was created

me: i believe god used the big bang to create the universe
The fact about is people want to argue over something they can not prove.You can't prove human evolution without knowing how it began.You want to talk about the big bang?The big bang is a theory therfore it means it's not yet proven.

You missed the whole thing I just said.I basically said no one can prove God is real or not.I also stated why people beleive in God and I didnt say he is real.


I do like your belief that God used the big bang,but it is the bilble and the other books that contradict themselves.I question my step father about other life on planets.He gave me statements made within the bible to answer my question.He made sense but yet i still question it.The answer he basically told me is no.
 
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can i just point out that all atheists are saying this is wrong with the bible and i agree but u people dont realise that the bible is not the only holy book and i agree that the bible contradicts itself but maybe u should read the Koran

The Koran? you mean the quran? and no! there is just as may mistakes in the quran than the bible.... not to mention the fundamentals of islam are easialy manipulated for violence, whereas christians at least have a spokeperson in the pope to contain the crazy!
 

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You missed the whole thing I just said.I basically said no one can prove God is real or not.I also stated why people beleive in God and I didnt say he is real.

I saw your statement about scientific theories just being theories. Well you need to go look at what is meant by a scientific theory. The word theory in everyday life does not share the meaning of the word theory in scientific practices. What you are implying is that scientic theories are simply hypothesis, which they aren't! A scientific theory is an explanation of FACTS, not to say they are perfect, but they are pretty much facts example gravity, evolution, quantum theory all have been PROVEN! They are not simply a guess!
 

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I saw your statement about scientific theories just being theories. Well you need to go look at what is meant by a scientific theory. The word theory in everyday life does not share the meaning of the word theory in scientific practices. What you are implying is that scientic theories are simply hypothesis, which they aren't! A scientific theory is an explanation of FACTS, not to say they are perfect, but they are pretty much facts example gravity, evolution, quantum theory all have been PROVEN! They are not simply a guess!

So your telling me the big bang theory has been proven?Exactly science constantly contradicts its self and is always changeing these facts that we thought were true when indeed they were false.
 

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So your telling me the big bang theory has been proven?Exactly science constantly contradicts its self and is always changeing these facts that we thought were true when indeed they were false.

YES, the big bang theory has been proven with the discovery of Cosmic microwave background radiation. You need to bruch up on your science and learn what is intended when the words "scientific theory" are used instead of hypothesis. Please come up with a valid example....
 
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