Why are you all saying that Sasuke would have never gotten MS if it wasn't for Itachi

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(first of all I'm not a fanboy , even though my profile and this thread might look to you otherwise ) .....so let's get to the topic (I'm actually going back all the way to Part 1 Naruto in this thread ) , exactly as the thread's title states , my question is : Why are you all saying that Sasuke would have never gotten MS if it wasn't for Itachi ?

I'm asking a simple question ..

While it is true that Itachi awakened that power for him ....but still why are you saying that ..,when clearly in the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke in Part 1 , when the fight ended with Sasuke as the last man standing ..., he could've killed Naruto to gain the MS way back ( you would say he couldn't because he ran out of Chakra in the fight so he didn't have the power to kill him ) i would say : but he could've just grabbed a kunai or something you know ? ...., but regardless , Sasuke didn't and he couldn't let himself kill his best friend whom he actually acknowledged as that in that particular fight , and he chose to get power on his own way while at that time Itachi had told him time and time again that he "lacks hatred" and that he must " kill his best friend , in order to gain the MS to fight him "

your thoughts ???
 

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(first of all I'm not a fanboy , even though my profile and this thread might look to you otherwise ) .....so let's get to the topic (I'm actually going back all the way to Part 1 Naruto in this thread ) , exactly as the thread's title states , my question is : Why are you all saying that Sasuke would have never gotten MS if it wasn't for Itachi ?

I'm asking a simple question ..

While it is true that Itachi awakened that power for him ....but still why are you saying that ..,when clearly in the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke in Part 1 , when the fight ended with Sasuke as the last man standing ..., he could've killed Naruto to gain the MS way back ( you would say he couldn't because he ran out of Chakra in the fight so he didn't have the power to kill him ) i would say : but he could've just grabbed a kunai or something you know ? ...., but regardless , Sasuke didn't and he couldn't let himself kill his best friend whom he actually acknowledged as that in that particular fight , and he chose to get power on his own way while at that time Itachi had told him time and time again that he "lacks hatred" and that he must " kill his best friend , in order to gain the MS to fight him "

your thoughts ???
Spoiler tag just in case.

Well if you read the manga, you'd know Itachi did not awaken his Mangekyou Sharingan by killing his bestfriend (Shisui Uchiha), so who's to say Sasuke's would have even obtained it by killing Naruto, since no one has yet to gain Mangekyou Sharingan through physically killing their bestfriend
 

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Spoiler tag just in case.

Well if you read the manga, you'd know Itachi did not awaken his Mangekyou Sharingan by killing his bestfriend (Shisui Uchiha), so who's to say Sasuke's would have even obtained it by killing Naruto, since no one has yet to gain Mangekyou Sharingan through physically killing their bestfriend
yeah but Itachi did see Shisui die infront of his eyes ..., atleast I think so xd

but actually when you kill somebody , you watch them die in front of your eyes , so yeah
 

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Actually i also believe that sasuke couldve awakened it. For example if he was very close to any of his hawk team members and they were to die, that could cause him to awaken it
yeah That's what I'm saying he could've easily awakened it alone..., I knew that I would get flamed in this thread , just like the guy that replied first ....he called me a fanboy just because of me stating my opinion , and because of my p.p and sig. ....:sy:
 

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yeah but Itachi did see Shisui die infront of his eyes ..., atleast I think so xd

but actually when you kill somebody , you watch them die in front of your eyes , so yeah
Yeah but it's also a very different experience, for example (not that it relates really) but if you've watched Dragonball Z, Goku awakened his SSJ1 through seeing his bestfriend die, where as Vegeta awakened his through hatred and a will to survive.

Different scenarios completely for both people, but still the same outcome nonetheless. So I mean it's still highly (99% chance) likely that Sasuke would have gained the Mangekyou Sharingan through killing Naruto, but there's also that chance that the Mangekyou Sharingan may not occur if it's through hatred, since we haven't seen a case like that.

Either way not saying Sasuke couldn't have obtained it on his own, just giving possible scenarios from my own input :)
 

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Yeah but it's also a very different experience, for example (not that it relates really) but if you've watched Dragonball Z, Goku awakened his SSJ1 through seeing his bestfriend die, where as Vegeta awakened his through hatred and a will to survive.

Different scenarios completely for both people, but still the same outcome nonetheless. So I mean it's still highly (99% chance) likely that Sasuke would have gained the Mangekyou Sharingan through killing Naruto, but there's also that chance that the Mangekyou Sharingan may not occur if it's through hatred, since we haven't seen a case like that.

Either way not saying Sasuke couldn't have obtained it on his own, just giving possible scenarios from my own input :)
yeah (btw. Goku's rage because of Kuririn's was one of the most Epic and Emotional scenes I've seen in anime/manga history) I kinda agree
 

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yeah but that only was before " The Uchiha Massacre " and after he learned about " The Truth "
He wanted to kill Itachi because of the clan, but deep inside him, Itachi was still he's brother, and he's best friend.

Naruto knows that Sasuke is with/was with Akatsuki, but he still saw Sasuke as he's best friend.
 
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