Why are we expecting suiton from Tobirama?

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Not at all. His main attribute has always been directed towards suiton jutsu's whether he had hype as being the greatest suiton user ever lived or a very skilled one. That has always been his hype and feats until recently.

At the same time, Minato got an alias for this technique which is his trade mark while Tobirama no such alias has been attributed to him for any form of jukkukin, but rather a well known suiton user.

Obviously no shinobi is one dimensional (well there are a few but majority are fairly skilled at other areas) and you could make a case for saying the senju clan known as the clan with a thousand skill, the second in command of such a clan will be fairly skilled at other areas.

But for him to be from what we have seen just as skilled as minato the person who gained an alias for this jutsu is rather odd. The only real difference between the two is that minato has hiraishin kunai's but that itself isn't anything great because the average shinobi carries kunai's/shurikens with them therefore tobirama can easily tag any kunai/shuriken he has and he has achieved more or less the same thing minato has done.

Even in this chapter it was somewhat stated that Tobirama can also use the the s/t barrier technique.
Anyway whats new with this manga, when it comes to randomness

You mean in part 1 only... The one thing that anbu said? Yeah...

Did you read the last part I wrote at all :yeah:

Well obviously, that's the main point of this thread. People were so quick to say we're going to see the most OP jutsu from Tobirama in a minute. We're not, because Rikkubito can negate ninjutsu. FTG is what's going to be the best thing to defend and attack Rikkubito.

I agree.
 

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You mean in part 1 only... The one thing that anbu said? Yeah...

Did you read the last part I wrote at all :yeah:

Well obviously, that's the main point of this thread. People were so quick to say we're going to see the most OP jutsu from Tobirama in a minute. We're not, because Rikkubito can negate ninjutsu. FTG is what's going to be the best thing to defend and attack Rikkubito.

I agree.

Hiraishin is ninjutsu and we have seen that firstly:
During transformation state he can erase the seal (somehow)
He has reacted to hiraishin a couple of times
Tobirama acknowledges that the next time he teleports behind him, he may die as he is becoming far too predictable.

Hiraishin isn't exactly doing much agains't him
 
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Hiraishin in ninjutsu and we have seen that firstly:
During transformation state he can erase the seal (somehow)
He has reacted to hiraishin a couple of times
Tobirama acknowledges that the next time he teleports behind him, he may die as he is becoming far too predictable.

Hiraishin isn't exactly doing much agains't him

The sheer speed of it tho, is the only reason progress is being made against Rikkubito. The Enton-Rasenshuriken attack landed, because of FTG(despite not even working). Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto were saved by FTG. Senjutsu Rasengan landed because of FTG... The only reason anyone is still in this fight, is because of FTG!
 

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The sheer speed of it tho, is the only reason progress is being made against Rikkubito. The Enton-Rasenshuriken attack landed, because of FTG(despite not even working). Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto were saved by FTG. Senjutsu Rasengan landed because of FTG... The only reason anyone is still in this fight, is because of FTG!

True Obito has gained footspeed that surpasses everyone and reaction time quick enough to wound minato who used hirasihin, but also execute a technique which minato took back with him. Also able to protect himself after Tobirama teleported back at him his attack.

So yes in that sense currently the only thing which we already know goes beyond footspeed is hiraishin so yes currently that is making them cope somewhat. But so far all the attacks that has included hiraishin excluding naruto's senjutsu powered ransegan has failed. Even with hiraishin being used as a defense its barely keeping as minaot lost an arm and tobirama later advised them not to attack without thought even if they are edo and later in this chapter admitted he could die if he continued teleporting to the exact same spot.

Only thing explicitly stated to work is currently senjutsu. Anyway im done here, but i do not believe Tobirama was ever intended to have hiraishin
 

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Suiton could be useful to counter the bijuudamas or even take that plant away , but who knows.....
 

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I missed a Kisame vs Tobirama thread, basically? God damn catholic priests wasting my time.

OT: Because he was apparently known for it.
 
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